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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 3:44:39 AM



Those GTS 450 seem to be in stock now:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Anyway, heres the best benchmark i can come up with, which isnt saying much. More benchmarks will be out on the 14th, its official launch date apparently:


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The GTS 450 competes with HD 5750 and is slightly faster by 8~10%.
- It’s half GF104.
- It has 32 Texture Units and 1 GPC.
- It consumes 31w more power than HD 5750 at load and 6w at idle.
- Temps are 57c at 70% fan , and 72c at default fan (FurMark Burn).
- Even with 1 GPC , it still beats HD 5750 at heaven by 29% @ 1900×1200.
- OC’ed to 1.0GHz core easily , which pumps up Vantages GPU score by 2000 Points.



http://gpudesign.bafree.net/nvidia-gts-450-full-review

This is reference GTS 450, not ASUS TOP. If the power consumption numbers are right, then it seems to be about the same load and idle power consumption as the 5770, maybe 5w higher in both. Those temps are fairly cryptic, but the load furmark seems to be running just a tad cooler than both the 5750 and 5770, but very close. FPS seems right on or barely below 5770. OC'ing seems very good, pushing about 30% clock rate increase. Sorry about the thread blackhawk, maybe this can help you pick a card.

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September 12, 2010 4:12:55 AM

No worries pal :)  Nothing to be sorry about lol. I am going to order pretty much tomorrow. Hopefully it will arrive by late this week. GTS450 is my final choice. I need to give Nvidia a thanks, great timing, I was about to buy a card that was probably overkill for my needs and then they released this GTS450 which is just perfect.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 5:23:12 AM

Interesting. I'd like to see the benchies before I'd buy one however. $137 is a bit much for it as well seeing as I can get a 5770 for $130.

Also a bit disappointed that its not much faster then the GTS250. The 5750 is faster then that card, and the GTS450 is a bit faster then it, but two generations later and its not much faster overall? 10-15%? I would think we'd be much faster by now.
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September 12, 2010 5:38:38 AM

450 is target for DX11 but the review doesn't show it and it is a cheap card to compete with 5770.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 5:39:28 AM

why would you buy one of these when its slower and more expensive than an ATI 5770???
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September 12, 2010 5:43:50 AM

Im gonna wait till the benches come out. Seems like an ok card but being 128 bit kinda sucks.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 6:00:21 AM

Cards tend to cost a bit more at launch and then move down to their real price later on. (assuming no supply issues.) As long as it moves down to the $100-$115 mark it might compete will with the 5750. The big issue is if it stays at the $140 mark, and performs slower then the 5770. Then I'm with Crowe, why would (a non fanboy) someone buy it?
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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 1:09:11 PM

I dont think you all are giving it as much credit as it deserves. Its at $130, or $140 with factory OC, however the fact that the ASUS TOP is only $130, thats the best buy of the lot. Anyway, on average the 5750 is $120-125. The GTS 450 beats it in performance by 5-10%. Cheapest non MIR 5770 is $140. Thats a pretty nice deal. However, to keep things mildly fair, thats also a pretty bad 5770, and an ASUS CU 5770 costs $145. Considering it beats the 5750 by 5-10%, and costs 4-8% more expensive, thats a fair deal. The GTS 450 seems to lose to the 5770 by about 3-7%. The 5770 is also 8-12% more expensive, that is also a fair deal. The GTS 450 also runs a tiny bit cooler. So, while i wont be buying it, and am in no way a Nvidia fanboy, i think its priced well and will sell.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 2:08:22 PM

I agree it will sell, there are plenty of Nvidiots out and about.

It might be a "pretty bad" 5770, but even if it isn't OC'd it will bet the 5750 or the GTS450. And frankly if your going to plunk down $130, whats another few more for the 5770. I'm not sure where you get your $130 from, the cheapest I saw was $137. (you didn't forget shipping did you?) To spend $137 for a GTS450 is a bad idea if you can get any 5770 for $130.
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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 2:14:08 PM

If it ends up 20% faster in tessellation heavy dx11 titles , then who wouldn't buy it over the 5770.
Games that just came out or are coming out> Mafia II (physx) lost planet II (dx11 tesselation heavy) Batman Arkham II (physX) , Dirt II (dx 11 water tessellation is what slows down ati dx11)
Or are we going to base who the fanboys are on a Vantage score ?

At newegg right now, all the NEW 450's are 130 or 140 (no free shipping)
5770's = 3-159.00 4-165.00 4- 169.00 2-over 170.00 and 2-139.00
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September 12, 2010 3:14:08 PM

the gtx 260 is trampling it in all games at stock.Its still the best bang for the buck card which maxess out all games at 1680X1050
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 4:13:00 PM

Seeing as people can't seem to find them;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HiS 5770. $140 shipped, $130 after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Sapphire 5770. $144 shipped, $129 after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Powercolor 5770. Free copy of Dirt2. $145 shipped, $125 after rebate. OC'd as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Asus 5770. $145 shipped, no rebate to worry about.

Notty, how did you miss all those but find 3 at $159? There is still a Gigabyte and an XFX model I could list that are under $150, let alone $159. And while the tessellation idea might prove to be true, lacking any benchies we have no idea. They might have cut the card so much it can't handle heavy tessellation. I for one don't believe it will stay at $130. If it moves down to $110-$115 then its a better deal.

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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 4:21:21 PM

But it beats the 5750, which at the very lowest is $120. So why on earth would it be priced lower???
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 10:21:34 PM

These are the prices i can get it for in my country ($AU)

1G GTS450 Gigabyte / Asus $185 / $186

1GB 5770 Powercolor / HIS / Gigabyte / Asus $173 / $174 / $184 / $189

and from the benchmarks its slower overall than the 5770
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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 10:28:13 PM

We have only seen one site (unknown) with one suite of games. And they pronounced it 10% faster than a 5750. I'll wait for more benchies , especially ones with the clocks at 880. They were at 785 in that review , and they said it overclocked to over 1ghz.

Also in those games some would have run in DX11 where the gts 250/260 would be dx9.
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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 10:49:32 PM

Newegg pulled the cards for now.

The card is now a LEGEND :) 
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 10:54:24 PM

notty22 said:
Newegg pulled the cards for now.

The card is now a LEGEND :) 



:lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
September 12, 2010 10:56:28 PM

I wonder if anybody got an order in for some of them. Maybe they now have to wait till the 13th to be shipped.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 12:44:13 AM

http://gpudesign.bafree.net/asus-gts-450-top-full-revie...
This shows the gts 450 (stock speeds) getting beaten by the 5770 except in farcry2 which everyone knows favours nvidia cards. I'll admit its not a comprehensive review, and its probably best to wait for a better review to make comparisons. It would be good to see some gts450 SLI benchmarks also and see how that compares to crossfire 5770's. The ATI 6700 series will probably be out soon anyway, so im gonna wait for that, since I dont plan to upgrade before xmas.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 1:14:52 AM

Same thing ares, why buy the 5750 for $120 when for just a bit more you can get the 5770? I have the same problem with the 5750 as I do with the GTS450, it simply costs to much. I have a 5750 in my machine, but I bought it used several months ago for $100.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 1:32:46 AM

This is why I didn't buy it when I had the chance to pre-order. A 460 is a better investment.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 4:04:53 AM

REVIEW IS OUT. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-450-gf1...
G106
Not to excited.
Nvidia sli scaling is still awesome and unmatched.
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The silver lining here is SLI. With two GeForce GTS 450s rendering cooperatively, we’re seeing 190% of a single card’s performance consistently. If two GeForce GTS 450s run $260 or so, then you’re looking at a $40 premium over a single GeForce GTX 460 1 GB at $220. We’re not as excited as we were after comparing two GTX 460s to a single GTX 480. But still, SLI’s tremendous scaling potential remains a reason to keep two of these cards in mind for a future upgrade.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...


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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 4:10:43 AM

iam2thecrowe said:
why would you buy one of these when its slower and more expensive than an ATI 5770???


It's great news for those who like Nvidia, plenty of them. I don't say fanboys but people who trust only Nvidia.

Also two of those might be an excellent setup for the money.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 6:53:54 AM

Link Yanje? I don't remember seeing those games in that review. And I'm not sure an Nvidia press release really counts.

What I did notice use the tessellation part of the review. Looks like they did cut a lot out of the it. Faster then the 5770 sure, but only barely. And like the toms review said by the time games use that much, you wouldn't want to use a GTX450. I was also "happy" to note that they pretty much agreed with me. Not a bad card, just priced to much. It can't be priced this high, not when its competing with whats out there. Toss in the 6 series is coming, and the card is looking even worse.

If they cut the price of this card down to $100-$115 and replace it with a 5/8 enabled $140 part, the GTX455(?) then they've got something. The GTX450 isn't a bad card, just not the best idea.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 7:23:16 AM

after reading tom's * g3d's review, these card would definitely replace the gts250.

there's a big gap between a gts450 and a 460 192bit, a 455 seems to be in placed.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 7:41:30 AM

It's nothing to celebrate...

The only reason to get this card is:

-Easier Installation(I.E very little/no driver issues)
-Only trust nVidia/are a nVidia fanboy

The 5770 is, according to articles I've seen; meant to be $10 cheaper still and better...

Not what I'd consider a big release/win from nVidia, this poor release coupled with the 6xxx series due out imminently will surely put nVidia behind for months, if not years more.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 8:58:48 AM

ccl online have a whole product line of gts 450. lowest price is £100.82, highest price is £194.52 (anomaly i think, next highest price is £155.75). most of them are overclocked editions which is a bit weird.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-categories.asp?categor...

edit-hardware canucks, techspot and guru3d have released reviews of the gts 450. bit disappointed really.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

http://www.techspot.com/news/40240-nvidia-geforce-gts-4...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-review-ro...
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 9:09:10 AM

I expected more from this card. as I posted before, i can get 5770's cheaper than a gts 450. only reason to but one would be if adding another later for SLI or if they drop in price. Now i planned to sli when i bought my 7600gt and never happened cause i got an 8800, and i was planning to sli with my 8800gts, but I would need a bigger PSU and there are better single gfx cards out now that can run on my PSU. So I probably would never do this. Too little too late this time from Nvidia. Im gonna wait for ATI's 6000 series.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 12:25:24 PM

We have to wait awhile to see where the card ends up. $130 is just to much, to close to the better 5770. The 5770 and 5750 came out a tad high as well, so no huge worries if it stay high for awhile. Let Nvidia cash in on the Nvidiots, and we'll see if the price falls. I still think if you have $125-$150 your best off with the 5770. I'd still like to see what a 6/8ths enabled GTX455 can do.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 12:54:22 PM

I have to say the GTS 450 seems like the perfect HTPC card with lower power but all the features of the GTX 460 and higher. I also like the bitstreaming feature provided by this card. I might have to buy one just for this reason.
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 1:35:25 PM

Is there a reason you can list that the GTX450 would be better then the 5670 or 5750 for a HTPC card? I can think of several reasons why either of those cards would be better. For a HTPC rig that is.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 3:50:59 PM

i have to agree with 474545b. get the gts 450 down to the $100-125 range. it would be the perfect $100 card, until the 6000 series comes.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 3:56:14 PM

I actually looked a bit further into the 5670 and 5750 after my last post and found them to be as well off if not better for an HTPC enviornment then the GTS 450. I think the GTS 450 maybe a bit more powerful then the 5670 or even the 5750 for gaming but for pure HTPC the ATI cards win. Ati also wins in terms of price.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 4:29:00 PM

This is why I didn't buy it, every one by now has seen the pre-release benchmarks and the results were disappointing. Mind you that is coming from someone who thinks the G92 and the G104 are the best value gpus that Nvidia has released in many years. 3 years for the G92 and that should be a statement just how good it has been. Now I hope the same is for the G104.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 4:30:46 PM

infernox_01 said:
ccl online have a whole product line of gts 450. lowest price is £100.82, highest price is £194.52 (anomaly i think, next highest price is £155.75). most of them are overclocked editions which is a bit weird.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-categories.asp?categor...

edit-hardware canucks, techspot and guru3d have released reviews of the gts 450. bit disappointed really.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

http://www.techspot.com/news/40240-nvidia-geforce-gts-4...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-review-ro...

Scan.co.uk have them at between £96.88 and £120.38
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 5:02:53 PM

nice find. scan also have the 5770 between £106.42 and £144.02. the 5750 on scan is between £91.14 and £118.17. in that case it does put the gts450 in the middle of the two.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 6:34:53 PM

Seeing all the reviews for the GTS 450, im a little disappointed. Especially with higher resolutions and AA. With no AA and below 1680x1050, it did decently, but putting AA on and uping the resolution, it did terribly, and the minimum FPS dropped a lot.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 6:42:53 PM

Its a card for new buyers to get a dx11 gpu for 120 bucks, if you just bought a 4850 / 4870 yesterday for 100/130 dollars, the card is not for you. Those were cards that launched at 200/300 and now on there way out, you get bargain prices.
The gts 450 is launching at 129.00, we are getting more power for less. Not as good a deal as the gtx 460, thats a different market.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 6:44:10 PM

ares1214 said:
Seeing all the reviews for the GTS 450, im a little disappointed. Especially with higher resolutions and AA. With no AA and below 1680x1050, it did decently, but putting AA on and uping the resolution, it did terribly, and the minimum FPS dropped a lot.

But as it's aimed squarely at the 16 x 10 segment higher res issues aren't really a problem I reckon.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 6:57:38 PM

While it is hard to "aim" a card at a certain resolution, it just gives out past 16x10. What was disappointing was that one could say the 5750 or 5770 might be "aimed" at 16x10, they still completely beat it with AA and higher res. AA is also a problem, as in most games it didnt handle AA as well as the 5750 or 5770. While it does cost the same as the 5750, maybe a bit more, i dont think it really was a good enough value card after 10 months of time NV had.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 7:02:44 PM

ares1214 said:
While it is hard to "aim" a card at a certain resolution, it just gives out past 16x10. What was disappointing was that one could say the 5750 or 5770 might be "aimed" at 16x10, they still completely beat it with AA and higher res. AA is also a problem, as in most games it didnt handle AA as well as the 5750 or 5770. While it does cost the same as the 5750, maybe a bit more, i dont think it really was a good enough value card after 10 months of time NV had.

There are more expensive cards in NV's lineup that take care of other resolutions. The 768 460 is now priced at 170. If someone wants a card from Nvidia they can choose one. The 5770 has had a year worth of driver revisions and the 450 is on launch drivers, if someone is buying today, one of the pro's or cons of either card is not time on market. Those are fanboy points.
edit: Its still competition for the 5750/5770, it will force price wars, hopefully.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 8:03:42 PM

nforce4max said:
This is why I didn't buy it, every one by now has seen the pre-release benchmarks and the results were disappointing. Mind you that is coming from someone who thinks the G92 and the G104 are the best value gpus that Nvidia has released in many years. 3 years for the G92 and that should be a statement just how good it has been. Now I hope the same is for the G104.


I have to agree with you that it has been sometime since NVidia has had the wow factor. Your going to the G92, but I was using a 6800GT up until a few months ago and it ran most things with decent, not great, but decent eye candy. If it wasn't for the CPU I'm sure I could have got another year to more out of it. I say NVidia, your 4xx cards are disappointing and I want to see some great 5xx card or else... well I don't have an else, but your can count on something at sometime, someday.

Oh, and for those who are looking, the system specs were AMD 64 3000, MSI 6800GT, 1GB Generic... I know, it was like I was living in the stone age right?
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 8:55:38 PM

deweycd said:
I have to agree with you that it has been sometime since NVidia has had the wow factor. Your going to the G92, but I was using a 6800GT up until a few months ago and it ran most things with decent, not great, but decent eye candy. If it wasn't for the CPU I'm sure I could have got another year to more out of it. I say NVidia, your 4xx cards are disappointing and I want to see some great 5xx card or else... well I don't have an else, but your can count on something at sometime, someday.

Oh, and for those who are looking, the system specs were AMD 64 3000, MSI 6800GT, 1GB Generic... I know, it was like I was living in the stone age right?


You got the most that you could out of that system unlike most these days. For basics like web and watching videos I could survive on much less and have but with school I need speed to get work done when I need it plus I can't stand lag. I wish that I knew more ways to get vista to use less pagefile.
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a b U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 9:10:44 PM

i think people could use the gts450 as an sli setup. its beats the gtx470 and is cheaper.
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a c 173 U Graphics card
September 13, 2010 9:47:19 PM

deweycd said:
I have to say the GTS 450 seems like the perfect HTPC card with lower power but all the features of the GTX 460 and higher. I also like the bitstreaming feature provided by this card. I might have to buy one just for this reason.

you do know the ati 5xxx series have bitstreaming, dont you??
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a c 176 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 3:20:34 AM

Yeah, he knows that. I think you missed a post he made.

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I actually looked a bit further into the 5670 and 5750 after my last post and found them to be as well off if not better for an HTPC enviornment then the GTS 450. I think the GTS 450 maybe a bit more powerful then the 5670 or even the 5750 for gaming but for pure HTPC the ATI cards win.

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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 6:21:53 PM

sadseada123 said:
the gtx 260 is trampling it in all games at stock.Its still the best bang for the buck card which maxess out all games at 1680X1050


Says who?

I had a 260 OC'ed and overvolted and still could not max out most of my games at 16x 10, hence the reason I upgraded to a 5850. You must be playing pac-man or donkey kong :D  , try maxing out BC2 or Metro with a single 260 @ 16x 10 ;) 

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Its still the best bang for the buck card which maxess out all games at 1680X1050


Cheapest GTX 260 = 170.00$ <- XFX crap model with no voltage control

Cheapest GTX 460 = 170.00$ <-GB/Sparkle model, both come with voltage control and put a hurt on the 260 for the same price + DX11 + lower power draw + smaller footprint, i can go on forever..

So no, the 260 is not the best bang for buck GPU out ATM, its the 460.
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September 14, 2010 6:50:51 PM

OvrClkr said:
Says who?

I had a 260 OC'ed and overvolted and still could not max out most of my games at 16x 10, hence the reason I upgraded to a 5850. You must be playing pac-man or donkey kong :D  , try maxing out BC2 or Metro with a single 260 @ 16x 10 ;) 

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Its still the best bang for the buck card which maxess out all games at 1680X1050


Cheapest GTX 260 = 170.00$ <- XFX crap model with no voltage control

Cheapest GTX 460 = 170.00$ <-GB/Sparkle model, both come with voltage control and put a hurt on the 260 for the same price + DX11 + lower power draw + smaller footprint, i can go on forever..

So no, the 260 is not the best bang for buck GPU out ATM, its the 460.


I have to agree the GTX 460 is definatly a better deal then the GTX 260. It has an incredible cost/fps.
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