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November 1, 2010 2:50:19 PM

Thanks in advance everyone for the advice on this. :) 

Approximate Purchase Date: (the closer the better)

Budget Range: ($1000-$1500)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (Web Development, Graphic Design, Internet, Movies))

Parts Not Required: (keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (tigerdirect.com, newegg.com)

Country of Origin: (USA)

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (I would like to use an Intel Core i7 or AMD X6 CPU to power dual Big 27" Samsung LCDs via DVI and full or mid tower case)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: (1920x1080 each monitor)

Additional Comments: (I am looking for a powerful PC that I can use mostly for work and some light video work. I have been looking at several systems, but I can't decide if I should get the Core i7 875K, 950 or AMD 1090T for my needs. I typically have many Adobe CS5 applications open at once like Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator and Flash, iTunes, Quickbooks, Microsoft Work and Excel. I would ideally like to buy a pre-built rig, but I can surely put together if better. Below are a few I have been looking at, but I am unsure about cooling on one of them and about the 875K processor on the other one. I figured a gaming PC would be fast and powerful as my needs are behond a standard base config. I would like some advice also on a good video card. Been looking at crossfire ATI HD 5770 vs single ATI HD 5870. I am not a typical overcloker, but I can be if it will help performance running apps. I leave my PC on all day and night so cooling is a factor. )

SYX-1040
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SYX 1052
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Cybertron TGM2240B
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

AMD Black Edition 6 Core Barebone
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Also, I do sometimes like to watch movies as well on my PC via DVD or maybe even Blue Ray
November 1, 2010 3:15:14 PM

* Radeon HD 5850 – 7403 (performance)/336 (mm²) = 22.03
* Radeon HD 6870 - 7730 (performance)/255 (mm²) = 30.31
Performance per mm2.

"In this test, the 5850 scored X7403 compared to the 6870 which scored X7730."

http://www.overclockers.com/official-amd-radeon-hd-68506870-performance-specs-released/

Radeon 6870 is better, and uses less power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161349&cm_re=radeon_6870-_-14-161-349-_-Product - $240
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November 1, 2010 3:44:33 PM

I will check that out. What about the 1090T Rig vs the i7
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November 1, 2010 3:56:15 PM

1 thing you must know is that once applications start utilizing more than 4 cores the x6 will be better
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November 1, 2010 4:05:03 PM

I see the 950 is much faster. I do like the new radeon 6870 cards. What do you think of this modified rig?

ASUS P6TD Deluxe Intel X58 MB w/ Core i7 950 CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

XFX HD687AZNFC Radeon HD 6870 Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full-Tower Case & Ultra X3 ULT40311 1000-Watt Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Corsair Core i7 Dominator 6GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - Tri Channel, 1600MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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November 1, 2010 4:08:01 PM

bgarrant said:
I see the 950 is much faster. I do like the new radeon 6870 cards. What do you think of this modified rig?

ASUS P6TD Deluxe Intel X58 MB w/ Core i7 950 CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

XFX HD687AZNFC Radeon HD 6870 Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

CoolerMaster HAF 932 Full-Tower Case & Ultra X3 ULT40311 1000-Watt Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Corsair Core i7 Dominator 6GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - Tri Channel, 1600MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 this hard drive is better, faster.

You don't really need a 1000W psu. and for PSU's I stick with XFX, Corsiar, or Seasonic
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November 1, 2010 4:32:34 PM

Here is latest RIG with modifications. What do you all think of this setup?

XFX HD687AZNFC Radeon HD 6870 Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] No=6817295

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] No=4034139

Corsair Core i7 Dominator 6GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - Tri Channel, 1600MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 7&csid=_25

Pioneer BDR-205 Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

ASUS P6TD Deluxe Intel X58 MB w/ Core i7 950 CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 8&csid=_22

Cooler Master RS850-AMBAJ3-US Silent Pro M 850W Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64BIT Operating System Software
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Since I do not really plan to overclock, do I need liquid cooling?
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November 1, 2010 4:52:30 PM

bgarrant said:
Here is latest RIG with modifications. What do you all think of this setup?

XFX HD687AZNFC Radeon HD 6870 Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] No=6817295

Western Digital WD1001FALS Caviar Black Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200 RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] No=4034139

Corsair Core i7 Dominator 6GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - Tri Channel, 1600MHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 7&csid=_25

Pioneer BDR-205 Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

ASUS P6TD Deluxe Intel X58 MB w/ Core i7 950 CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] 8&csid=_22

Cooler Master RS850-AMBAJ3-US Silent Pro M 850W Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64BIT Operating System Software
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Since I do not really plan to overclock, do I need liquid cooling?


I don't use coolermaster PSU's. Corsair is the best in my opinion, then XFX.
and i still highly recommend switching to the samsung spinpoint F3 1TB HDD... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
and DEF NO to liquid cooling.

if you want i7's run hot get a Hyper 212 cpu cooler. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=hyper_212-_-35-103-065-_-Product
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November 2, 2010 12:06:35 AM

Is this a better Config?

ASUS EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders


Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Item #: N82E16819115211
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

*

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131665
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

*

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
Item #: N82E16820145295
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy

*

ABS Majesty series MJ900 Continuous 900W@50°C ATX12V/EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, SLI Ready, CrossFire Ready, Core i7 Ready, ...
Item #: N82E16817814018
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

*

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146067
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

*

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
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November 2, 2010 12:29:44 AM

what do you think of this latest config?
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November 2, 2010 1:40:58 AM

Getting a combo and reducing quality isn't worth it in the long run... chasing combos is a bad way to buy.
for instance, you buy a combo. and the psu dies, you have to replace the psu anyway, which will cost more than the 80$ you saved by using a combo in the first place.
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November 2, 2010 1:55:25 AM

How does this non-combo selections look? I think the case and MOBO are much better. What do you think?

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8

ASUS P6TD Deluxe LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support
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November 2, 2010 2:25:56 AM

Yes, def yes. you will see a the difference!

I think the boards are a personal preferance, you can do triple sli with the p6t but the sabertooth has sata 6.0 and usb 3.0
if you decide to go with the sabertooth heres a SSD that runs on sata 6.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357 the write speeds are slower but the read speeds are astounding.. and everyone reads more than they write :p 
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November 2, 2010 10:55:25 AM

What do you think of this RIG?

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119160
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$30.00 Instant



$159.98
$129.98

1

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152185
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




$69.99

1

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130550
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy




$259.99

1

Nvidia Free Mafia 2 Game Coupon

Nvidia Free Mafia 2 Game Coupon
Item #: N82E16800999247
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$59.99 Saving



$59.99
$0.00

1

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139011
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$30.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card17-139-011


$189.99
$159.99

1

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231356
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy




$234.99

1

LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support

LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136181
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




$109.99

1

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

*

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Item #: N82E16819115211
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

*

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131665
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$5.00 Instant
-$14.99 Combo



$499.98
$479.99

1

OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

*

OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE120G 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820227543
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy

*

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116758
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy

-$70.00 Instant
-$30.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card20-227-543


$439.98
$339.98

Subtotal: $1,784.90
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November 2, 2010 11:48:37 AM

Here is latest config. How does it all look? Trying to maximize speed of SATA 6GB. Enough PSU power? I am using dual 27" Samsung LCDs at 1920 x 1080 each. Since I am using Adobe CS5 for web and graphic design and development, I was told that the NVIDIA cards work better. See this page http://www.nvidia.com/object/builtforadobepros.html. Did I make good choices? All from NewEgg.


COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119160
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130550
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy


Nvidia Free Mafia 2 Game Coupon
Item #: N82E16800999247
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139011
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231358
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy


LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM
Item #: N82E16827136181
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy



Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

*

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Item #: N82E16819115211
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

*

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131665
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy



Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

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Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820148348
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy

*

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116758
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy


Grand Total:* $1,859.90
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November 2, 2010 12:46:56 PM

850 watt power supply is major overkill for your system, i understand you would like some headroom for future upgrades but a 750 watt should be more than good enough, the 6870 is not power hungry at all, a 750 watt should be more than good enough for a crossfire 6870 build
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November 2, 2010 12:48:04 PM

antec, corsair, seasonic and xfx power supplies are good
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November 2, 2010 6:33:56 PM

bgarrant said:
Looks like Adobe likes this card for CS5. Anyone have any comments about it? I am a heavy Photoshop user.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Good card, but supposedly are noisy and use more power than the radeon 6870.
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November 3, 2010 1:16:04 AM

Why not go core i5-760? You can save quite a bit of money between ram, mobo, and cpu and easily OC to the similar performance range as well as save a little bit on your energy bill!
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November 3, 2010 1:05:18 PM

skiboarder72 said:
Why not go core i5-760? You can save quite a bit of money between ram, mobo, and cpu and easily OC to the similar performance range as well as save a little bit on your energy bill!



he needs a cpu intensive build for photoshop and so on, the i5 760 does not have HT so it wont be as good of a multitasker, also he will benefit using the x58 platform as it utilizes tri channel ram, cs5 and so on require a substantial amount of ram as it makes it a lot smoother and faster, yes if it was a gaming build on a bit of a budget an i5 760 is perfect, anyway i highly recommend waiting for the gtx 5xx series as they are not gf100 cards so they will not run near as hot and should use nowhere near the amount of power as the gf100 cards, i really think its worth the wait
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November 3, 2010 5:44:42 PM

from toms on article on cs5 "INCREASING CPU THREADS. This could be through the addition of cores as well as from leveraging Intel’s Hyper-Threading (HT) feature."
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November 4, 2010 4:41:37 PM

exhail said:
he needs a cpu intensive build for photoshop and so on, the i5 760 does not have HT so it wont be as good of a multitasker, also he will benefit using the x58 platform as it utilizes tri channel ram, cs5 and so on require a substantial amount of ram as it makes it a lot smoother and faster, yes if it was a gaming build on a bit of a budget an i5 760 is perfect, anyway i highly recommend waiting for the gtx 5xx series as they are not gf100 cards so they will not run near as hot and should use nowhere near the amount of power as the gf100 cards, i really think its worth the wait


Check out tom's CPU charts for photoshop. i7 does NOT provide any more performance per clock than the i5. I'm building a photo pc as well and I researched this a ton. i7 really isn't worth it (for now!).
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November 4, 2010 4:56:49 PM

uhm.... read the toms article it says if you are upgrading from cs4 to cs5, and want to upgrade your system you will benefit with hyper threading (virtual cores) the i5 760 does not have hyper threading, and just like i said he will benefit using the x58 platform as it utilizes tri channel ram
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November 10, 2010 11:09:19 PM

skiboarder72 said:
Check out tom's CPU charts for photoshop. i7 does NOT provide any more performance per clock than the i5. I'm building a photo pc as well and I researched this a ton. i7 really isn't worth it (for now!).


What did you end up getting? Here is my rig I am looking at, but I would love to save a few bucks if I could get same performance while using CS5 Web Premium.

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-12GBRL

LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

Grand Total: $1,909.91
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November 11, 2010 3:08:56 PM

1000 watt psu is overkill, and i wouldnt go for a gtx 470, i would go for an hd 6870 or wait for the hd 69xxs to come out, get a samsung spinpoint f3 hdd
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