Dell Inspiron CPU Upgrade (QX9650) Extreme Core

Hello

I recently upgraded my cpu from a Q6600,2.40GHZ(1066 MHZ) to a QX9650,3GHz(1333 MHz)extreme core however, when i boot up the pc, it just shuts down after a few seconds. Is this CPU compatible? I have the latest bios 1.0.18. which supports newer Intel CPU's. I have also checked that the sysetm supports FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333. Another thing was is originally, i was going to get the Q9650 instead of the QX9650 but i heard the're not that much different. I got the QX9650 instead because it was cheaper but unfortunatly iv'e had no luck with it so far.

Don't know what to do. Plese help!
Any info on this would be great

Thanks!
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  1. Can you tell us which Inspiron you have? We need the model number to determine if the motherboard can even support the extreme edition.
  2. Hi

    It's the Inspiron 530, model no is 0FM586.
  3. Its hard to find an actual compatibility list for your board but a few sites that I read the max CPU supported was the Q9550 this is most likely due to the age of the system Dell probably never intended on ever seeing this platform with that powerful of a quad in it. Now just because it supports the FSB of the chip that does not grantee compatibility the CPUID has to be programed into the bios by dell or else it will simply not work or it might boot but at reduced clock speed. Dell, Gateway, and HP are horrible at getting any sort of upgrades to work sometimes. Lesson here is build your own its cheaper and better.
  4. Damn, wish Dell and other companies would sort it out. I mean the Q6600 is ok but i just wanted a bit more power under the hood. Guess i might as well keep that chip for a new build or maybe sell it towards an I7 or something.

    Thanks for the info
  5. Sell it and start a new build with an I5-2500K.
  6. The Q9650 and QX9650 are different in one very important spec: the Q9650 is a 95W CPU and the QX9650 is a 130W CPU. Your Dell motherboard may not be able to handle the power needed to run the X chip. Any chance you could exchange for a regular Q9650?
  7. Don't know if i will sell it but i'm thinking of taking the parts from it to start a new build with a new motherboard. The Dell Foxconn board is too limited, i can't do squat with it. lol
  8. The chip could be too powerfull for the board? Damn.....makes sense, thats probably why it wont boot up in my machine. I bought the QX9650 from e-bay with a no returns policy, iv'e no luck getting my money back there unless i sell it back on e-bay myself. Will look around to see if i can exchange it. If the Q9650 works on the board i wouldn't have to worry about building another pc. Well not yet anyway.
  9. Nah i have not emailed them yet but i phoned them and they where rude when i asked them about CPU upgrade. The guy i spoke to said "No! we don't do that, you'd be better off buying a new pc". Some help he was.

    So you can do more with the Dell Foxconn board?
  10. No i have a corsair VX550w
  11. lol....my point exactly, i just ended up hanging up the phone.
  12. Yeh G33M03
  13. So it only supports 1066MHz FSB?
  14. Nah i bought it with the quad core cpu. Hey it's funny becuase on Everest it says it's supports higher FSB speeds.

    Here:

    Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
    Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
  15. Sorry but which one?
  16. Ok thanks i found it. lol


    FSB Frequency Support: 333 MHz (1333 QDR)


    What does Processor Upgrade: ZIF mean?


    That motherboard would of been perfect.
  17. Quote:
    Supports latest Intel Core2 Quad and Core2 Duo processors up to 1066MHz FSB

    http://www.foxconnsupport.com/download.aspx?models=en-us0000202&category=C000000001&series=en-us0000002&keywords=&sort=Motherboard%20Manual

    Intel® Core™2 Quad, Core™2 Extreme, Core™2 Duo, Pentium® D, Pentium® 4 and Celeron® D processors, Socket T (LGA775) Intel® G965 & ICH8R

    1066 / 800 / 533 MHz Integrated
    Dadiggle, I think you are mistaken. That board is a G965 board. The G33M03 (0FM586) board the OP has is a G33 chipset board and it does support 1333MHz FSB. If you google a bit, there are loads of people with the OP's motherboard upgrading to 1333MHz FSB CPU's, both wolfdales and yorkfields.

    Here's an interesting tidbit... if you do go to the Foxconn G33M CPU support page, the QX9650 is listed as good to go. Bear in mind that this isn't for the OP's exact motherboard: his motherboard is manufactured by Foxconn but the BIOS comes from Dell and therefore CPU support depends on Dell.

    Striker101 said:
    What does Processor Upgrade: ZIF mean?.
    ZIF = zero-insertion-force: all current processors are ZIF, meaning they drop into a socket without force and a lever is used to secure the chip.

    OP- did you clear your CMOS after the CPU upgrade? You should jumper the pins that clear the CMOS and take out the CMOS battery for a good 10 minutes to make sure your BIOS is a clean slate since it may have been set up for your Q6600. Worth a shot.
  18. Ok, thanks for that info. I couldn't get a chance to clear the CSMOS because the QX9650 wouldn't boot up. Should i clear the CSMOS while i have the Q6600 installed and then install the QX9650 after?

    I know where the CMOS battery is but how do i jumper the pins? Are there any side effects of doing this?
  19. According to the 530 user manual, the CLR CMOS pins are just to the right of the CMOS battery. It has three pins with a bridge (the jumper) connecting two of them. You'll wan't to take the jumper off the first two pins, and shift it over so it is on the last two pins (the middle pin is used in both cases). After waiting ~30 seconds, return the jumper to its original position. Do all of this with the computer unplugged. You don't need the system bootable to clear the CMOS.

    Clearing the CMOS will make the BIOS "forget" all of its settings and what hardware is installed on the motherboard. Like I said... a clean slate.
  20. I'm back. Well i cleared the CMOS, installed the QX9650 but no luck. It just does the same thing, boots few a few seconds then shuts down. I'm starting to think is the CPU faulty or it just ain't compatible with the board. Beats the hell outa me?

    Anyway after i put the Q6600 back in the board and booted up, the screen went blank and nothing was happening....was getting worried then booted up again and it came back on. Wow it really did reset the the bios, i had to adjust the time and it kept assking me to format a floppy drive located in A: There's now even an image of the floppy drive located in my computer. lol
  21. Another thing occurred to me. What RAM are you using? RAM speed is linked to the base FSB... which is determined by the CPU you install. Your Q6600 runs on 266FSB and might be using DDR2-533 RAM. When the QX9650 is installed, it runs at 333FSB and may be trying to run your RAM at DDR2-667 speed and the sticks can't handle it.
  22. I have 6Gigs of running at 800Mhz

    Heres more info on the system


    Field Value
    Memory Module Properties
    Module Name Kingston KCM633-ELC
    Serial Number 8C3A290Dh (220805772)
    Manufacture Date Week 35 / 2008
    Module Size 1 GB (1 rank, 8 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
    Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
    Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

    Memory Timings
    @ 400 MHz 6-6-6-18 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-51-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    @ 333 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 20-43-3-5-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
    @ 266 MHz 4-4-4-12 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

    Memory Module Features
    Analysis Probe Not Present
    FET Switch External Disabled
    Weak Driver Supported

    Memory Module Manufacturer
    Company Name Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
    Product Information http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp

    Device Description
    DIMM1: Kingston KCM633-ELC
    DIMM2: Kingston 99U5429-007.A00LF
    DIMM3: Kingston KCM633-ELC
    DIMM4: Kingston 99U5429-007.A00LF


    Field Value
    North Bridge Properties
    North Bridge Intel Bearlake G33
    Intel Platform Salt Creek
    Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
    Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
    Maximum Memory Amount 8 GB
    Revision / Stepping 02 / A2
    Package Type 1226 Pin FC-BGA
    Package Size 3.4 cm x 3.4 cm
    Core Voltage 1.25 V
    In-Order Queue Depth 12

    Memory Controller
    Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
    Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

    Memory Timings
    CAS Latency (CL) 6T
    RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 6T
    RAS Precharge (tRP) 6T
    RAS Active Time (tRAS) 18T
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 52T
    Command Rate (CR) 2T
    RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
    Write Recovery Time (tWR) 15T
    Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
    Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
    Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 12T, Different Rank: 5T
    Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
    Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
    Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 15T
    Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
    Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
    DRAM Read ODT 3T
    DRAM Write ODT 6T
    MCH Read ODT 8T
    Performance Level 5
    Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
    DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 0T
    DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 5T
    DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 0T
    DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 5T

    Error Correction
    ECC Not Supported
    ChipKill ECC Not Supported
    RAID Not Supported
    ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

    Memory Slots
    DRAM Slot #1 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #2 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #3 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
    DRAM Slot #4 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

    Field Value
    Physical Memory
    Total 6133 MB
    Used 1705 MB
    Free 4427 MB
    Utilization 28 %

    Swap Space
    Total 12264 MB
    Used 1882 MB
    Free 10381 MB
    Utilization 15 %

    Virtual Memory
    Total 18397 MB
    Used 3588 MB
    Free 14809 MB
    Utilization 20 %
    Physical Address Extension (PAE)
    Supported by Operating System Yes
    Supported by CPU Yes
    Active Yes


    Paging File
    Paging File C:\pagefile.sys
    Current Size 6133 MB

    Field Value
    Motherboard Properties
    Motherboard ID 02/24/2009-1.0.18-6A79O009C-00
    Motherboard Name Dell Inspiron 530

    Front Side Bus Properties
    Bus Type Intel AGTL+
    Bus Width 64-bit
    Real Clock 267 MHz (QDR)
    Effective Clock 1067 MHz
    Bandwidth 8533 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties
    Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
    Bus Width 128-bit
    DRAM:FSB Ratio 12:8
    Real Clock 400 MHz (DDR)
    Effective Clock 800 MHz
    Bandwidth 12800 MB/s

    Chipset Bus Properties
    Bus Type Intel Direct Media Interface

    Motherboard Manufacturer
    Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
    Product Information http://www.dell.com
    BIOS Download http://support.dell.com
    Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59
    BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?refererid=40
  23. What's running your RAM at 800? Is it set that way in the BIOS?

    Reason I ask is RAM requires a divider to get the desired frequency. For a 266MHz base bus, you need a 12:8 ratio to get 400HMz (DDR2-800). If you have that same ratio when running a base FSB of 333MHz, it will try to make your RAM run at DDR2-1000 speed. Go into the BIOS and lock your RAM ratio to 1:1 (266MHz base bus will give you DDR2-533 speed with the Q6600, DDR2-667 with the QX9650) and see if that works. You may even want to have a single RAM stick installed during troubleshooting to reduce the variables.
  24. Hi

    I went into the bios but there is no option to do it.
  25. That's Dell for ya.

    Now you may understand why we DIY builders do what we do.

    Well, perhaps we have exhausted our options. If you were in my neighborhood I'd gladly swap my Q9650 for your QX9650 to see if the 95W vs 130W is the problem.

    Only other options are to get a new motherboard as diggle suggested (assuming there is nothing wrong with the chip) or part with the QX9650 and save up for a new Sandy Bridge build as SAAIELLO suggested.
  26. Lol. I'm never ever buying a Dell PC again. Too much hastle.

    I understand now why you guys build pc's rather than buying the whole thing from manufactors. lol...yeh we could of swaped the cpu's to see if the Q9650 would of worked...i bet it would. Are you from london?

    What i'm thinking of doing at some point like diggle and SAAIELLO suggested is getting a new case with cooling, new motherboard and take out the hard drives etc from the dell pc and put it in the new build. The only thing is i'd have to reinstall windows 7. Damn!
  27. Um... I think we established long ago that the OP has an Intel G33 chipset.

    I'm not sure what you're getting at, diggle.
  28. I guess i just don't know how to give up but i came accross this on the Foxxconn site


    Compatibility for Intel : Socket 775 : G33M / PCB Ver : 1.0A / BIOS Ver : 722F1P37



    CPU Name Core Cpu No. FSB (Mhz) L2 Cache Wattage Result

    Intel Celeron 1.6G Conroe-L 420 800 512KB 35W P
    Intel Celeron 1.8G Conroe-L 430 800 512KB 35W P
    Intel Celeron 2.0G Conroe-L 440 800 512KB 35W P
    Intel Celeron 2.2G Conroe-L 450 800 512KB 35W P*
    Intel Celeron 2.5G Dual Core E3300 800 1MB 65W P
    Intel Celeron® Dual-core 1.6G Conroe E1200 800 512KB 65W P
    Intel Celeron® Dual-core 2.4G Conroe E1600 800 512KB 65W P*
    Intel Core™2 Extreme 2.66G Kentsfield QX6700 1066 4MB*2 130W P
    Intel Core™2 Extreme 2.93G Kentsfield QX6800 1066 4MB*2 130W P
    Intel Core™2 Extreme 3.0G Kentsfield QX6850 1333 4MB*2 130W P
    Intel Core™2 Extreme 3.0G Yorkfield QX9650 1333 12MB 130W P
    Intel Core™2 Extreme 2.93G Conroe X6800 1066 4MB 75W P

    There is a bios that can be downloaded which supports the cpu's above

    If i install this bios: Foxconn G33M/G33M-S BIOS v.722F1P37 will it work?
  29. Dont flash the Dell bios with aftermarket
    It can be done but there is a good chance of ruining your mobo
    Now if your planning on getting a LGA775 mobo and dont
    care if you brick your dell mobo then it is up to you
  30. Hi

    Nah i wasn't going to until i heard some feed back on it. But i'm not going to now anyway.

    Why do Dell put people through hell with there systems.
  31. So Dell tweak it to there liking and sell to us so we can't tweak it unless they do it themselves and charge us and make a ton of money. Cruel but smart.

    Now if i bought the CPU brand new from Amazon or somewhere like that, i wonder if we'd all be having this discussion. I regret buying it Ebay now.
  32. Ok i checked it out. The same list appears on the Foxxconn site. So what your saying is that becuase Dell tweak the board, many of the cpu upgrades that Dell state will work, might not work? even with Dell bios Version 1.0.15, or higher. Seems like Dell are misleading people.


    If i were to buy the exact same Foxxconn board from Amazon, would it tweaked by Dell or is just a regular Foxxconn board with an unlocked bios.
  33. Will check out the Dell site
  34. Nah only 800Mhz. Originally the system shipped with 3Gigs of DDR2 800MHz but i then upgraded my bios to 1.0.18 which allows up to 8Gigs. I currently have 6Gigs of DDR2 800MHz.
  35. The bios was downloaded from Dell.
  36. Wow. Dell sure do know how to ripp off people.
  37. Hey guys i found this on the Dell Forum site. I have copied and pasted it here
    Check it out:


    Dell inspiron 530 cpu upgrade


    clasam:
    Hello...

    Same question, but I do have the 0FM586 A00 board. The Q8200 is in there right now. What's the top range CPU that can be upgraded to?

    Thanks,

    Jon


    clasam

    N652J Yorkfield Quad Core, Q9650, 3.00GHz, 12MB, 1333FSB, E0

    Before installing you need to update the BIOS to the latest version, as with BIOS Version: 1.0.15, support for new Intel CPUs was added.

    Bev.


    http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19274391.aspx?PageIndex=1
  38. So it seems have the wrong CPU then. Looks like i need the Q9650.
  39. Sorry i didn't realise. Got so caught up in this i'm startin to loose it. lol

    That Foxconn board is great. That is untouched right? No Dell tweaks
  40. The Gigabyte board is what i will go for. I prefer this board over Foxconn.
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