Dell Inspiron CPU Upgrade (QX9650) Extreme Core

[Striker101]

Hello

I recently upgraded my cpu from a Q6600,2.40GHZ(1066 MHZ) to a QX9650,3GHz(1333 MHz)extreme core however, when i boot up the pc, it just shuts down after a few seconds. Is this CPU compatible? I have the latest bios 1.0.18. which supports newer Intel CPU's. I have also checked that the sysetm supports FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333. Another thing was is originally, i was going to get the Q9650 instead of the QX9650 but i heard the're not that much different. I got the QX9650 instead because it was cheaper but unfortunatly iv'e had no luck with it so far.

Don't know what to do. Plese help!
Any info on this would be great

Thanks!

 

[saaiello]

Can you tell us which Inspiron you have? We need the model number to determine if the motherboard can even support the extreme edition.

 

[Striker101]

Hi

It's the Inspiron 530, model no is 0FM586.

 

[saaiello]

Its hard to find an actual compatibility list for your board but a few sites that I read the max CPU supported was the Q9550 this is most likely due to the age of the system Dell probably never intended on ever seeing this platform with that powerful of a quad in it. Now just because it supports the FSB of the chip that does not grantee compatibility the CPUID has to be programed into the bios by dell or else it will simply not work or it might boot but at reduced clock speed. Dell, Gateway, and HP are horrible at getting any sort of upgrades to work sometimes. Lesson here is build your own its cheaper and better.

 

[Striker101]

Damn, wish Dell and other companies would sort it out. I mean the Q6600 is ok but i just wanted a bit more power under the hood. Guess i might as well keep that chip for a new build or maybe sell it towards an I7 or something.

Thanks for the info

 

[saaiello]

Sell it and start a new build with an I5-2500K.

 

[rwpritchett]

The Q9650 and QX9650 are different in one very important spec: the Q9650 is a 95W CPU and the QX9650 is a 130W CPU. Your Dell motherboard may not be able to handle the power needed to run the X chip. Any chance you could exchange for a regular Q9650?

 

[Striker101]

Don't know if i will sell it but i'm thinking of taking the parts from it to start a new build with a new motherboard. The Dell Foxconn board is too limited, i can't do squat with it. lol

 

[Striker101]

The chip could be too powerfull for the board? Damn.....makes sense, thats probably why it wont boot up in my machine. I bought the QX9650 from e-bay with a no returns policy, iv'e no luck getting my money back there unless i sell it back on e-bay myself. Will look around to see if i can exchange it. If the Q9650 works on the board i wouldn't have to worry about building another pc. Well not yet anyway.

 

[Striker101]

Nah i have not emailed them yet but i phoned them and they where rude when i asked them about CPU upgrade. The guy i spoke to said "No! we don't do that, you'd be better off buying a new pc". Some help he was.

So you can do more with the Dell Foxconn board?

 

[Striker101]

No i have a corsair VX550w

 

[Striker101]

lol....my point exactly, i just ended up hanging up the phone.

 

[Striker101]

Yeh G33M03

 

[Striker101]

So it only supports 1066MHz FSB?

 

[Striker101]

Nah i bought it with the quad core cpu. Hey it's funny becuase on Everest it says it's supports higher FSB speeds.

Here:

Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM

 

[Striker101]

Sorry but which one?

 

[Striker101]

Ok thanks i found it. lol


FSB Frequency Support: 333 MHz (1333 QDR)


What does Processor Upgrade: ZIF mean?


That motherboard would of been perfect.

 

[rwpritchett]

Supports latest Intel Core2 Quad and Core2 Duo processors up to 1066MHz FSB

http://www.foxconnsupport.com/download.aspx?models=en-us0000202&category=C000000001&series=en-us0000002&keywords=&sort=Motherboard%20Manual

Intel® Core™2 Quad, Core™2 Extreme, Core™2 Duo, Pentium® D, Pentium® 4 and Celeron® D processors, Socket T (LGA775) Intel® G965 & ICH8R

1066 / 800 / 533 MHz Integrated

Dadiggle, I think you are mistaken. That board is a G965 board. The G33M03 (0FM586) board the OP has is a G33 chipset board and it does support 1333MHz FSB. If you google a bit, there are loads of people with the OP's motherboard upgrading to 1333MHz FSB CPU's, both wolfdales and yorkfields.

Here's an interesting tidbit... if you do go to the Foxconn G33M CPU support page, the QX9650 is listed as good to go. Bear in mind that this isn't for the OP's exact motherboard: his motherboard is manufactured by Foxconn but the BIOS comes from Dell and therefore CPU support depends on Dell.

What does Processor Upgrade: ZIF mean?.

ZIF = zero-insertion-force: all current processors are ZIF, meaning they drop into a socket without force and a lever is used to secure the chip.

OP- did you clear your CMOS after the CPU upgrade? You should jumper the pins that clear the CMOS and take out the CMOS battery for a good 10 minutes to make sure your BIOS is a clean slate since it may have been set up for your Q6600. Worth a shot.

 

[Striker101]

Ok, thanks for that info. I couldn't get a chance to clear the CSMOS because the QX9650 wouldn't boot up. Should i clear the CSMOS while i have the Q6600 installed and then install the QX9650 after?

I know where the CMOS battery is but how do i jumper the pins? Are there any side effects of doing this?

 

[rwpritchett]

According to the 530 user manual, the CLR CMOS pins are just to the right of the CMOS battery. It has three pins with a bridge (the jumper) connecting two of them. You'll wan't to take the jumper off the first two pins, and shift it over so it is on the last two pins (the middle pin is used in both cases). After waiting ~30 seconds, return the jumper to its original position. Do all of this with the computer unplugged. You don't need the system bootable to clear the CMOS.

Clearing the CMOS will make the BIOS "forget" all of its settings and what hardware is installed on the motherboard. Like I said... a clean slate.

 

[Striker101]

I'm back. Well i cleared the CMOS, installed the QX9650 but no luck. It just does the same thing, boots few a few seconds then shuts down. I'm starting to think is the CPU faulty or it just ain't compatible with the board. Beats the hell outa me?

Anyway after i put the Q6600 back in the board and booted up, the screen went blank and nothing was happening....was getting worried then booted up again and it came back on. Wow it really did reset the the bios, i had to adjust the time and it kept assking me to format a floppy drive located in A: There's now even an image of the floppy drive located in my computer. lol

 

[rwpritchett]

Another thing occurred to me. What RAM are you using? RAM speed is linked to the base FSB... which is determined by the CPU you install. Your Q6600 runs on 266FSB and might be using DDR2-533 RAM. When the QX9650 is installed, it runs at 333FSB and may be trying to run your RAM at DDR2-667 speed and the sticks can't handle it.

 

[Striker101]

I have 6Gigs of running at 800Mhz

Heres more info on the system


Field Value
Memory Module Properties
Module Name Kingston KCM633-ELC
Serial Number 8C3A290Dh (220805772)
Manufacture Date Week 35 / 2008
Module Size 1 GB (1 rank, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings
@ 400 MHz 6-6-6-18 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-51-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 333 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 20-43-3-5-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-12 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Memory Module Features
Analysis Probe Not Present
FET Switch External Disabled
Weak Driver Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Kingston Technology Company, Inc.
Product Information http://www.kingston.com/products/default.asp

Device Description
DIMM1: Kingston KCM633-ELC
DIMM2: Kingston 99U5429-007.A00LF
DIMM3: Kingston KCM633-ELC
DIMM4: Kingston 99U5429-007.A00LF


Field Value
North Bridge Properties
North Bridge Intel Bearlake G33
Intel Platform Salt Creek
Supported FSB Speeds FSB800, FSB1066, FSB1333
Supported Memory Types DDR2-667 SDRAM, DDR2-800 SDRAM, DDR3-800 SDRAM, DDR3-1066 SDRAM, DDR3-1333 SDRAM
Maximum Memory Amount 8 GB
Revision / Stepping 02 / A2
Package Type 1226 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 3.4 cm x 3.4 cm
Core Voltage 1.25 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller
Type Dual Channel (128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel (128-bit)

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 6T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 6T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 6T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 18T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 52T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 3T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 15T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 8T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 12T, Different Rank: 5T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 6T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 5T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 15T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 3120T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 8T
Performance Level 5
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 0T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 5T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 0T
DIMM4 Clock Fine Delay 5T

Error Correction
ECC Not Supported
ChipKill ECC Not Supported
RAID Not Supported
ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #3 1 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #4 2 GB (DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM)

Field Value
Physical Memory
Total 6133 MB
Used 1705 MB
Free 4427 MB
Utilization 28 %

Swap Space
Total 12264 MB
Used 1882 MB
Free 10381 MB
Utilization 15 %

Virtual Memory
Total 18397 MB
Used 3588 MB
Free 14809 MB
Utilization 20 %
Physical Address Extension (PAE)
Supported by Operating System Yes
Supported by CPU Yes
Active Yes


Paging File
Paging File C:\pagefile.sys
Current Size 6133 MB

Field Value
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 02/24/2009-1.0.18-6A79O009C-00
Motherboard Name Dell Inspiron 530

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel AGTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 267 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 1067 MHz
Bandwidth 8533 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio 12:8
Real Clock 400 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 12800 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel Direct Media Interface

Motherboard Manufacturer
Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
Product Information http://www.dell.com
BIOS Download http://support.dell.com
Driver Update http://driveragent.com?ref=59
BIOS Upgrades http://www.esupport.com/biosagent/index.cfm?refererid=40

 

[rwpritchett]

What's running your RAM at 800? Is it set that way in the BIOS?

Reason I ask is RAM requires a divider to get the desired frequency. For a 266MHz base bus, you need a 12:8 ratio to get 400HMz (DDR2-800). If you have that same ratio when running a base FSB of 333MHz, it will try to make your RAM run at DDR2-1000 speed. Go into the BIOS and lock your RAM ratio to 1:1 (266MHz base bus will give you DDR2-533 speed with the Q6600, DDR2-667 with the QX9650) and see if that works. You may even want to have a single RAM stick installed during troubleshooting to reduce the variables.

 

[Striker101]

Hi

I went into the bios but there is no option to do it.