Hello, first I'd like to say what a great site this is, about 90% of my research brings me back here so I decided to join. So heres my first post, hope its not too long I figure people would pick and choose what they reply to.
When I decided to buy a new computer I compared from sites like Best Buy, Costco, etc. Then a little more research and 10 hours later I'm stuck in a dilema, should I just buy from the store, buy a customized/barebones (Ebay seemed the cheapest and easiest to use), or just outright build it myself.
Comparing store bought to customized I felt like for a few hundred more I could get a computer that is almost twice as better. Then when figuring costs on a custom or barebones from ebay and other sites it seemed like I could get a slightly better computer while saving possibly a hundred or two but with the addition of labor which seems minimal if i get help or pay $50 to get it assembled in town.
So while listing the details from the "how to post" post if I could get some advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Approximate Purchase Date:
My office computer is making loud strange noises sometimes (guessing hard drive) and last time it did that on my other computer it crashed so probably within a month or so.
Budget Range: 1000-1300 net, total after rebates, tax shipping etc.
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Multitasking with Quickbooks/internet/MS office apllications 90%, minor photoshop/homevideo editing (haven't done any yet but hope to), Starcraft 2 ("very capable or recommended" specs would be preferred over minimum) & movies (netflix, again no usage yet but hope to and seems like more/better options will be available soon so I'd like to future proof a little)
Parts Not Required:
Looking for just a desktop computer with USB 3.0 & maybe eSATA 3? plus basics. (lightscribe dvd player/burner, probably wont do RAID so I'll need just 1 hard drive ever using external ones for backup) I have the other equipment(mouse, keyboard, etc. or can buy to match.)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Please advise (newegg and tigerdirect seem ok)
Country of Origin: Please advise
Parts Preferences:
Intel I7-870 is about the only part I'm pretty sure about, again please advise. I'd like usb 3.0 and sata 3 6 gb capability, fast hard drive 7200RPM with 64mb cache.
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Most likely not
Monitor Resolution:
Not sure but either use the one I have or can buy to match. Just a lil future proofing for Netflix, movies etc. HDMI on the computer required?
Additional Comments:
I would like to know if all of the details I've been reading up on will matter to me or only applies to others like enthusiasts or extreme gamers, etc.
3 Questions
1. I don't "plan" on buying another computer until this one dies so assuming my usage doesn't change drastically, will invensting time and money into building myself and learning about BIOS RAM latency/settings, overclocking, etc. make that much of a difference to me?
2. Will building myself and setting up the BIOS etc make the system faster by letting cut out all of the junk I dont need that comes with computers that are bought and assembled or can I still do that just as easily?
3. One thing I cant figure out is about USB 3.0. I want 3.0 cabability but the motherboards Im considering like ASUS P55 say ports are on the back where some cases like Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 say 2 USB 2.0 & 1 USB 3.0. Aren't they the same physically as far as the slots on the case are concerned? Do I need to match the case with these specs whether it states its on the front or back?
Again, sorry if this post is too long, but it seems like the more information the better and long posts aren't as frowned upon here. Thank you in advance. This will be a huge help.
For those who can spare a bit more time I could also use some help with the build. Any recommendations regarding components would be appreciated. I've looked at example builds here was still unsure.
Here is the build I'm thinking of buying on Ebay, otherwise I would modify this build a little and build myself. Please comment on upgrades, overkill, simply not need etc.
Thanks again.
$1630.00 shipping, taxes, assembly, 1-3 limited warranty included
Ebay Barebones configured by me 1st Draft
Intel i5/i7 CPU : Intel Core i7 870 2.93GHz (Quad Core) 8000K
Intel i5 / i7 CPU Fans : Coolermaster Hyper 212, 4 Copper Heat Pipes, Dual Cooler CPU fan
Intel i5 / i7 Motherboards : ASUS P7P55D-E LX P55, USB 3.0, SATA3, GB LAN, iEEE
DDR3 Dual Channel memory : 8GB (4x2GB) PC8500 DDR3 1066 Dual Channel (Doesn't give details Brand or latency? numbers, maybe I should delete this and just buy and plug in my own?)
PCI-Express Video cards : ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB PCI Express 16x dual head, HDMI (Looking for good not great Starcraft 2 play and HDMI needed for watching stuff on the comp from my tv?)
Hard Drives : 1000.0GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM SATA 3 6.0Gb/s 64m cache
Hard Drive Fans : Fan-Less Aluminum Silent Hard Drive Cooler with Heatpipes
Media Card Readers : All-in-One Memory Card Reader Internal Black
DVD Recorders : Lite On LightScribe 24x SATA DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW_NEW
Sound Cards : Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Network Cards : Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Controller Cards : USB 3.0 Adapter Card 2 port PCI express
Cases : Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Black Case, Full Tower,Side Window, front USB 3.0
Case Fans : Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
Power Supply : Antec TruePower Quattro 850w Extra Quiet ATX Power Supply SLI & X-fire ready
Operating Systems : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD
When I decided to buy a new computer I compared from sites like Best Buy, Costco, etc. Then a little more research and 10 hours later I'm stuck in a dilema, should I just buy from the store, buy a customized/barebones (Ebay seemed the cheapest and easiest to use), or just outright build it myself.
Comparing store bought to customized I felt like for a few hundred more I could get a computer that is almost twice as better. Then when figuring costs on a custom or barebones from ebay and other sites it seemed like I could get a slightly better computer while saving possibly a hundred or two but with the addition of labor which seems minimal if i get help or pay $50 to get it assembled in town.
So while listing the details from the "how to post" post if I could get some advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Approximate Purchase Date:
My office computer is making loud strange noises sometimes (guessing hard drive) and last time it did that on my other computer it crashed so probably within a month or so.
Budget Range: 1000-1300 net, total after rebates, tax shipping etc.
System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Multitasking with Quickbooks/internet/MS office apllications 90%, minor photoshop/homevideo editing (haven't done any yet but hope to), Starcraft 2 ("very capable or recommended" specs would be preferred over minimum) & movies (netflix, again no usage yet but hope to and seems like more/better options will be available soon so I'd like to future proof a little)
Parts Not Required:
Looking for just a desktop computer with USB 3.0 & maybe eSATA 3? plus basics. (lightscribe dvd player/burner, probably wont do RAID so I'll need just 1 hard drive ever using external ones for backup) I have the other equipment(mouse, keyboard, etc. or can buy to match.)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Please advise (newegg and tigerdirect seem ok)
Country of Origin: Please advise
Parts Preferences:
Intel I7-870 is about the only part I'm pretty sure about, again please advise. I'd like usb 3.0 and sata 3 6 gb capability, fast hard drive 7200RPM with 64mb cache.
Overclocking: Maybe
SLI or Crossfire: Most likely not
Monitor Resolution:
Not sure but either use the one I have or can buy to match. Just a lil future proofing for Netflix, movies etc. HDMI on the computer required?
Additional Comments:
I would like to know if all of the details I've been reading up on will matter to me or only applies to others like enthusiasts or extreme gamers, etc.
3 Questions
1. I don't "plan" on buying another computer until this one dies so assuming my usage doesn't change drastically, will invensting time and money into building myself and learning about BIOS RAM latency/settings, overclocking, etc. make that much of a difference to me?
2. Will building myself and setting up the BIOS etc make the system faster by letting cut out all of the junk I dont need that comes with computers that are bought and assembled or can I still do that just as easily?
3. One thing I cant figure out is about USB 3.0. I want 3.0 cabability but the motherboards Im considering like ASUS P55 say ports are on the back where some cases like Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 say 2 USB 2.0 & 1 USB 3.0. Aren't they the same physically as far as the slots on the case are concerned? Do I need to match the case with these specs whether it states its on the front or back?
Again, sorry if this post is too long, but it seems like the more information the better and long posts aren't as frowned upon here. Thank you in advance. This will be a huge help.
For those who can spare a bit more time I could also use some help with the build. Any recommendations regarding components would be appreciated. I've looked at example builds here was still unsure.
Here is the build I'm thinking of buying on Ebay, otherwise I would modify this build a little and build myself. Please comment on upgrades, overkill, simply not need etc.
Thanks again.
$1630.00 shipping, taxes, assembly, 1-3 limited warranty included
Ebay Barebones configured by me 1st Draft
Intel i5/i7 CPU : Intel Core i7 870 2.93GHz (Quad Core) 8000K
Intel i5 / i7 CPU Fans : Coolermaster Hyper 212, 4 Copper Heat Pipes, Dual Cooler CPU fan
Intel i5 / i7 Motherboards : ASUS P7P55D-E LX P55, USB 3.0, SATA3, GB LAN, iEEE
DDR3 Dual Channel memory : 8GB (4x2GB) PC8500 DDR3 1066 Dual Channel (Doesn't give details Brand or latency? numbers, maybe I should delete this and just buy and plug in my own?)
PCI-Express Video cards : ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB PCI Express 16x dual head, HDMI (Looking for good not great Starcraft 2 play and HDMI needed for watching stuff on the comp from my tv?)
Hard Drives : 1000.0GB Western Digital Black 7200RPM SATA 3 6.0Gb/s 64m cache
Hard Drive Fans : Fan-Less Aluminum Silent Hard Drive Cooler with Heatpipes
Media Card Readers : All-in-One Memory Card Reader Internal Black
DVD Recorders : Lite On LightScribe 24x SATA DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW_NEW
Sound Cards : Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Network Cards : Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Controller Cards : USB 3.0 Adapter Card 2 port PCI express
Cases : Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Black Case, Full Tower,Side Window, front USB 3.0
Case Fans : Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
Power Supply : Antec TruePower Quattro 850w Extra Quiet ATX Power Supply SLI & X-fire ready
Operating Systems : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit DVD