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November 2, 2010 10:06:40 PM

I've had my current rig for almost 2 years now. It's a nice system, but I would like better performance in games. Would selling it and building a new rig be worth it, or should I upgrade what I have? If I should upgrade, please let me know what I should replace. Thanks in advance!

Specs:

CPU- Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4Ghz (having trouble OCing, maybe someone can help?)
Motherboard- GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA775
Graphics- ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
RAM- 4GB (2x2GB) Mushkin Enhanced Blackline DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
Power Supply- Cooler Master Real Power Pro 650W
Optical Drive- Samsung 20x SATA CD/DVD burner
Case- NZXT Tempest
Operating System- Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit

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a c 103 B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:15:44 PM

Selling it would depend on what price you get for it. It is still a good rig. You should drop in on the overclocking section of this forum because if you can get that Q6600 up to or over 3.0GHz you will get a substantial performance increase. HD4870 is still doing good up to 1080P resolution but if you get the CPU above 3Ghz you could drop in a HD6870 or one of the new HD69xx cards coming soon.
November 2, 2010 10:23:37 PM

Well which games, what screen resolution, max settings? The 4870 is still a high ranking graphics card, and a 2.4Gz quad core isn't that bad. Do you know what the main bottleneck is for what you use the computer for (ie CPU vs GPU)? Also how much are you willing to spend on an upgrade or new build?

I wouldn't recommend getting a new LGA 775 CPU, instead go to one of the current platforms (would most likly mean new RAM as well).

Keeping the motherboard you could upgrade the GPU now and possibly get a SSD (both could be transferred to a new system later).
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:27:28 PM

+1 to what Fire is sayin' how large is your budget?
November 2, 2010 10:33:01 PM

I would definitely upgrade.
It's amazing how much improvement you can get for the buck today.
I just did it and couldn’t be happier.
November 2, 2010 10:35:42 PM

Thanks for the replies. My screen resolution is 1920x1200. I'd like to play on max/close to max settings. As far as games go I'm talking stuff like crysis, wow, left 4 dead, CoD...pretty much all modern games. I'd be willing to spend $2000 max on a new build, but would like to keep it as low as possible while still getting great performance.

I'm thinking real hard about rolli59's advice.. Try to overclock my Q6600 and drop in a new GPU. Would getting another 4870 and running crossfire be good or should I get a completely different card? I really like the looks of the 5970, but it's pretty expensive and don't know if my CPU would hold it back. Also, would different RAM make a difference?
November 2, 2010 10:43:14 PM

I have never found RAM to make a noticeable difference, provided it works and you have enough.

If you can get another 4870 cheaply that is an option, just remember it generally wont come near to double performance. You could also look at say a 5870 which is a fair bit better than the 4870, or wait and see what happens when the high end AMD 6000's come out.


Have a go at over clocking (you can over clock video cards as well btw). Personally I would then go for the new GPU, and then upgrade the CPU/Motherboard/RAM later as needed (also both Intel and AMD have new stuff coming up, so it might be worth waiting to see what happens there),
a c 83 B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:44:03 PM

You have a well balanced system.

To get better gaming results at 1920 and high eye candy, your graphics card/s need to be a few tiers stronger; something like the GTX480 or 5970.
There are launches coming in the next month, so it will pay to see what is offered.
Look for a GTX580 or a 6970.

To keep up, you want a clock rate of 3.0 or better and at least two cores, preferably three. You could possibly overclock to that level. Again, I would wait on sandy bridge, rumored to launch January 9.

Patience... Patience...
a b B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:50:58 PM

Wait for Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer..... Maybe get a SSD now, and so you'll have a while to recover your budget? Obviously some new ones will come out, but I don't know of anything "groundbreaking" coming out soon, correct me if I'm wrong.
a c 83 B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:53:55 PM

Atotalnoob said:
Wait for Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer..... Maybe get a SSD now, and so you'll have a while to recover your budget? Obviously some new ones will come out, but I don't know of anything "groundbreaking" coming out soon, correct me if I'm wrong.

SSD's built with 25nm parts are coming, perhaps in January. They should sell for much less per gb.
a b B Homebuilt system
November 2, 2010 10:54:48 PM

ah, I fail =/
November 2, 2010 11:33:19 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys. I'll probably hold out and see what the high end 6000's look like. That 5970 is really tempting though lol. What kind of gains could I expect from a GTX 470? or should I stay away from Nvidia? I've been out of the loop since early 2009 so I'm in the process of reading up on everything lol.
November 2, 2010 11:54:33 PM

Any idea how much of a difference I would see upgrading to a HD6870 or GTX470 from my 4870? Are benchmarks available?
November 3, 2010 12:09:01 AM

I noticed that the HD6870 supports DirectX 11. Would it be worth the $100 to upgrade to Windows 7 to make use of that? I used Windows 7 during the beta test and really liked it.
a c 103 B Homebuilt system
November 3, 2010 12:12:47 AM

DX11 is supported by Vista!
November 3, 2010 12:20:57 AM

dang I had no idea lol. I thought I heard somewhere that it was only on Win 7 lol
a b B Homebuilt system
November 3, 2010 12:36:33 AM

anherox said:
dang I had no idea lol. I thought I heard somewhere that it was only on Win 7 lol


I heard that too, and saw it a few times, but I didn't really care.....
November 3, 2010 7:08:56 AM

The 6870 isnt as good as a 5870, and it is only slightly faster than a 5850. Id suggest waiting until AMD release the high end 6000 cards.
November 3, 2010 3:32:26 PM

I would and I am waiting for January release:

ATI and Nvidia GPU releases/price cuts
SSD releases/price cuts
Intel and AMD cpu releases/price cuts

with that being said you could let the prices trickle down and get a good i5-760 (OC to 3.6+) two 6870(CF) and a couple SSD (280MB read/write)
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