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Palit gtx 460 vs palit platinum gtx 460

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September 14, 2010 2:35:55 AM

the regular $199
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

the platinum oc'd version $218
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

I guess I should mention my resolution is 1650x1080. Is the out of the box oc worth an extra $20 or is this something I could setup myself in 10 minutes? The cards look identical to me otherwise.

Also this oc'd palit recently smoked a bunch of other gpu's in this benchmark article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-rou...


Finally, how would the oc'd version hold up against a 5850, namely this one by gigabyte http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This 5850 is oc'd and so is the palit 460 so it's hard to do a direct comparison. All I really have to go on are stock 5850 benchmarks, which at my resolution of 1650x1080 the stock 460 is really close, so I'm thinking the sonic platinum 460 might actually beat the 5850.

This is going to part of an overall build which I posted here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/295038-31-build-gamin...
a c 1408 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 2:40:57 AM

Save the $19 and overclock yourself. If you are uncomfortable overclocking $19 it not a big amount for the increase you get.
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September 14, 2010 2:45:01 AM

Not really uncomfortable doing it, I just never have oc'd a gpu before. But they are the same otherwise right?
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a c 1408 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 2:49:22 AM

Yes only difference I see is speed.
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 2:53:38 AM

Believe it or not I don't know. The Platinum is supposed to have two copper heat pipes.

I've read that the normal 1gb does not. That it only has a block Aluminum cooler, probably with a copper core type.

A owner of the normal palit could speak up and tell us if he sees the copper pipes through fan shroud hole ?
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September 14, 2010 3:03:44 AM

As notty says, the super-clocked/overclocked versions of cards are often slightly different in their architecture. I was advised of this by EVGA when I bought my card and you are guaranteed that the card will run at those higher speeds whereas if you do it yourself your results may vary.

I guess I'd always spend that extra 20 bucks but I've never been a thrifty person. I do enjoy overclocking, but hey, if the card is architecturally superior then it stands to reason that you could still overclock it and achieve an even higher score.

I spelled "architecturally" wrong 3 times when I wrote this. :|
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September 14, 2010 3:06:28 AM

That's what I was originally thinking, that it would have slightly better cooling or something, but there's no good way to tell just from a couple icons and a spec.

Palit's warranty is only 2 years. Is that pretty industry standard? I think evga is 3 years, just wondering if people consider palit a pretty reliable brand.
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a c 624 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 3:24:21 AM

After looking around, I couldn't find anything different between the Sonic and Sonic Platinum except clock speeds.

Overclocking the regular Sonic version should be easy with Afterburner software. Just move the slider to the desired speed and hit apply. Shoot for 815mhz at first to be safe, and then go up from there.

The GTX460 is a little bit faster than the 5850, and comes with better DirectX 11 performance and PhysX.

This is another GTX460 roundup that shows the Palit Sonic Platinum taking the top honors. It also shows a comparison to the 5850 and other cards:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/1
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a c 1408 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 3:25:43 AM

Normal http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImag...
Platinium http://www.newegg.com/Product/ImageGallery.aspx?CurImag...
Definitely heat pipes on the latter and not on the first. $19 well worth it for better cooling.
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a c 624 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 3:36:03 AM

nativeson8803 said:
As notty says, the super-clocked/overclocked versions of cards are often slightly different in their architecture. I was advised of this by EVGA when I bought my card and you are guaranteed that the card will run at those higher speeds whereas if you do it yourself your results may vary.
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I know that some of the overclocked cards do feature higher quality components and "binning". For example, this is from a review of the ultra-overclocked POV GTX460 TGT Beast: "Point of View's GTX 460 TGT Beast 1 GB is the highest performing POV GTX 460 in their lineup. All cards are tested at TGT Germany, who are a new company specializing in graphics card overclocking. This additional binning process enables Point of View to release cards that are able to run the high clock speeds of 855 MHz core and 1005 MHz memory reliably."
and
”All of the POV/TGT GeForce GTX 460 “BEAST” products are hand selected and manually tuned with a proprietarily tuning algorithm developed by TGT’s highly skilled hard- and software engineering team in Germany. Frankly speaking, TGT tuning is “Made in Germany”. Finally all of the POV/TGT GeForce GTX 460 “BEAST” products are verified with a comprehensive burn-in procedure to assure highest customer satisfaction. ”
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September 14, 2010 3:47:14 AM

Just noticed this one too, 2gigs of ram on a 460? lol didn't know that existed. It's not overclocked, but another $20, worthwhile? Newegg reviews seem to indicate no, that it doesn't have the nice cooling of the sonic platinum and you need larger resolutions to use the extra ram.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
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a c 624 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 3:53:15 AM

ms5555 said:
Just noticed this one too, 2gigs of ram on a 460? lol didn't know that existed. It's not overclocked, but another $20, worthwhile? Newegg reviews seem to indicate no, that it doesn't have the nice cooling of the sonic platinum and you need larger resolutions to use the extra ram.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...


This article compares the benefits of the Palit Sonic GTX460 in 768mb vs. 1gb vs. 2gb:
http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles/GTX%20460%20ANALYS...

Quote: "1GB vs 2GB is tricky. Honestly speaking, the gains are minimal at best. In some rare titles such as Stalker: Call of pripyat a sizeable 16% FPS gain was seen. Other titles also displayed some measurable gains but they weren't enough to significantly improve game play experience. It depends on what you intend to do with these cards. Benchmarking wise, 2GB is still superior over 1GB but from a gameplay point of view the benefits are hardly noticeable. But then again, this should be expected from cards that are fairly "low end" to begin with."
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September 14, 2010 4:09:52 AM

First- I need some help. I've recently started posting here after years of watching. I cannot for the life of me find my "total posts" or "see all the posts by this user". Can one of you help me with this? Not to hijack the thread but there are already other threads like this that do not answer the question, as if it was something that did not really exist. I *have* seen it once but it did not show all my posts and the only way I could get to it was by finding a thread I had previously posted in and clicking on my own name. Thanks if you can help with this.

As to what you said above, matto, I think that there are games out there that I personally play quite a bit- GTA 4 for one- and that game could really benefit from the 2 gigs of ram. Anybody that has played it or has used the in-game benchmark would know what I'm talking about. Why the hell don't any of the reviews use that benchmark? It's a really good one and shows actual in-game play, not just cutscenes.

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September 14, 2010 4:18:27 AM

Best answer selected by ms5555.
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September 14, 2010 4:23:35 AM

nativeson are you trying to see your own posts? There's a mythreads flag, it's blue, on the forum index. I don't know how to see posts by a particular user.

Sorry to keep linking in more random cards, but after looking at that nice 30 page article matto linked I'm actually thinking the msi cyclone might not be a bad buy- and it's super cheap at microcenter- $170!
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

OC it to 837 without a voltage increase and it matches the sonic platinum, and it's quieter and uses less power.
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September 14, 2010 4:38:27 AM

My buddy just bought the clyclone and after one DOA from Tiger Direct he really likes his card. I'm glad I got my external exhaust from EVGA SC but I failed to get the lifetime warranty and only got the 2 year. I imagine in 2 years I will upgrade again, though.

Good luck, let use know what you do. I'll try the blue flag, thnx.
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a c 273 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 6:31:56 AM

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