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Upgrading graphics card to HD5770, worth it?

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September 14, 2010 6:35:43 PM

Hey, I wanna' upgrade my Dell Vostro 410.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:2 weeks.
BUDGET RANGE: 100 - 175 euros

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (games like The call of duty series, Fallout 3 and future games.)

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: Ati Radeon HD 3650 and some japanese 350watt power supply.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
Mobo: DG33AO1 (Rev:A00)
Memory: 2 gb of DD2 SDRAM 800MHz

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: A belgian site www.alternate.be or www.forcom.be, think about just giving them my pc and they'll install it for me because I'll lose the warranty if I install them myself.

PARTS PREFERENCES: Nothing really, I'm going to have my PSU upgraded to an OCZ Stealthstream 600W.

I might want to add a gb of ram to my PC. Since I have Vista 32bit my pc won't recognize more than 3gb, right?

Tell me what you think, and if you got some other suggestions, feel free.

Cheers!

OVERCLOCKING: No, I guess.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: At this moment 1024*768, but I'm planning on buying a new monitor.
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 6:48:16 PM

Yes, HD5770 is much better than HD3650 and good for high resolution monitor (23"-24").
September 14, 2010 7:18:22 PM

i got the sapphire vapor x runs cool and quiet the 5770 is a nice card especially the Msi and sapphire vapor x model
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a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 7:20:26 PM

I agree with the above.
wa1, why do i always have to post just after you today? ha ha ha -never mind, Doom3klr beat me to it

I would suggest you upgrade your RAM to 4 Gb not to 3, because you will get better performance with just 2 or 4.
And since you mentioned COD and fallout, i kind of like those games, here you can see what the 5770 vapor-x can do: http://www.frozentek.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewt... -made by me :)  .
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 7:35:48 PM

@ ionut19: haha, It's just coincidence... :D 
September 14, 2010 7:45:21 PM

ionut19 said:
I agree with the above.
wa1, why do i always have to post just after you today? ha ha ha -never mind, Doom3klr beat me to it

I would suggest you upgrade your RAM to 4 Gb not to 3, because you will get better performance with just 2 or 4.
And since you mentioned COD and fallout, i kind of like those games, here you can see what the 5770 vapor-x can do: http://www.frozentek.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewt... -made by me :)  .


Thanks! I jizzed when I saw the pictures and vid. I always play on the lowest settings because I can't bare playing under 30FPS. :) 
4gb, yeah, but I've heard somewhere that Vista 32bit only uses 3gb, so 4gb is useless, just read it somewhere, don't know if it's true :) 
Thanks again!
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 7:52:48 PM

Yes, 32bit OS only read 3.2 GB, so you're good with 2GB RAM.
get that HD5770 and happy gaming. :D 
September 14, 2010 7:55:31 PM

wa1 said:
Yes, 32bit OS only read 3.2 GB, so you're good with 2GB RAM.
get that HD5770 and happy gaming. :D 


Yeah, but won't the extra gb of ram help with my loading times/video editing?
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 8:02:54 PM

Yes, it should help, well, if you can afford it then go with 2x 2GB of RAM.
Video editing is more CPU intensive, you already have Core 2 Quad, OC it to 3GHz and you will have a FAST System...
September 14, 2010 8:49:46 PM

wa1 said:
Yes, it should help, well, if you can afford it then go with 2x 2GB of RAM.
Video editing is more CPU intensive, you already have Core 2 Quad, OC it to 3GHz and you will have a FAST System...


Right now I have 2x 1GB, i'll buy another 1x 2GB I guess...?

I'm afraid of OC'ing, won't my pc melt? xD
I have no idea of how good/bad my pc handles temperature.
September 14, 2010 9:03:18 PM

Does the GTX260 beat the HD5770?
Srry for the double post.
a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 9:06:01 PM

They are about the same, the gtx260 is a little bit faster, but just by a few frames/sec, but consumes more power and does not have DX11.

OC'ing won't melt your PC..ha ha ha..it depends on components mostly, you should buy a CPu cooler that is better then the stock one so that you can avoid heating problems, if you want to overclock the CPu that is..

And no, buy another 2x1Gb not 1x2Gb.
September 14, 2010 9:08:21 PM

ionut19 said:
They are about the same, the gtx260 is a little bit faster, but just by a few frames/sec, but consumes more power and does not have DX11.

OC'ing won't melt your PC..ha ha ha..it depends on components mostly, you should buy a CPu cooler that is better then the stock one so that you can avoid heating problems, if you want to overclock the CPu that is..

And no, buy another 2x1Gb not 1x2Gb.


Okay, I'll take a look at that ;D

Why another 2x1GB?
a b U Graphics card
September 14, 2010 9:12:58 PM

You have RAM that's meant to be used in dual channel mode, witch optimizes it's performance, if you use 3 sticks there is no more dual channel mode and the performance drops.

You don't really have to overclock if you don't want to, but it will give you speed, higher frame rates and faster video editing. I do not know what motherboard you have and if you can overclock the CPU.
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 15, 2010 1:28:53 AM

Yes, you will get more benefit when you run on dual channel mode (2 sticks).
So the options are stay with your current setup (2x 1GB) or upgrade with 2x 2GB.
2GB of RAM are plenty, you're good.

For now you'll be fine with stock speed (Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz) since you play at low resolution, but you can OC it later when you get a new bigger monitor.
September 15, 2010 12:24:12 PM

wa1 said:
Yes, you will get more benefit when you run on dual channel mode (2 sticks).
So the options are stay with your current setup (2x 1GB) or upgrade with 2x 2GB.
2GB of RAM are plenty, you're good.

For now you'll be fine with stock speed (Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz) since you play at low resolution, but you can OC it later when you get a new bigger monitor.


Yeah... :|
I feel like I shouldn't be messing around in my case, I'm afraid I'll screw something up. Installing a cooler doesn't sound like it's an easy thing.
I've seen some for around 10euro btw, should I go with them?
Cheers
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 15, 2010 1:03:01 PM

CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler is a GREAT cooler for just $40-$50...
And no, it's not hard at all, even you can do it for the first time... :) 
September 15, 2010 4:25:30 PM

wa1 said:
CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ CPU Cooler is a GREAT cooler for just $40-$50...
And no, it's not hard at all, even you can do it for the first time... :) 


Damn, another 40-50euro >.>

I'm on a tight budget and I wanna' buy a new graphics card for which I need a new power supply. A new monitor and then maybe a CPU cooler.

Let's say:
GPU: 175$
PSU: 60$
Monitor: 150$
CPU cooler: 50$

that makes around 435$. And buying more RAM is useless, right?
Oh, 435$ looks quite acceptable actually :')
But I hope my parents'll approve it, since this PC was 450$ 2 years ago. Anyways it's the money I earned working this summer, so.. I guess..

Sorry for going offtopic there ^^

Cheers! I've noticed the GTX460. What about that card? It looks way better than the HD5770 for just 200$.
a b U Graphics card
September 15, 2010 4:33:56 PM

If it's the 1gb version then it's worth it. Just make sure you get a decent power supply with 2x6pin connectors.
600w should work fine and allow sli'ing later on.
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 15, 2010 4:41:45 PM

Well, before buy a new CPU Cooler, you can try OC your CPU (with stock cooler) and see it's temps first, your quad are still decent enough for today's standard.

Yes, stay with your current 2x 1GB of RAM.

Yes, GTX460 is faster than HD5770.
September 15, 2010 4:47:19 PM

wa1 said:
Well, before buy a new CPU Cooler, you can try OC your CPU (with stock cooler) and see it's temps first, your quad are still decent enough for today's standard.

Yes, stay with your current 2x 1GB of RAM.

Yes, GTX460 is faster than HD5770.


Is it worth the extra 25$ ? I mean, am I going to notice it?
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 15, 2010 4:55:45 PM

Yes, it's worth and yes, you will see the different... :) 
September 15, 2010 6:46:00 PM

wa1 said:
Yes, it's worth and yes, you will see the different... :) 


Let's say I got a 22" monitor, and want to play on a 1920*1080 resolution.
I don't OC my CPU, leaving it at 2.4GHz.
I'd buy a GTX460 or an HD5770. Would I be bottlenecking my system? Would I see a performance gain or a performance loss comparing it to my HD3650 on 1024*768?
Someone in another thread said I won't be able to OC my CPU since I've got a Dell. Bugger.
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 16, 2010 2:23:26 AM

22" monitor with Quad 2.4GHz and GTX460/HD5770 = good.
A little OC on CPU = Great.

Well, it's okay if you can't OC your Dell, your CPU speed are still decent enough for today.
Just a little advice, next time BUIL your own PC. :) 
September 16, 2010 2:39:54 AM

LtStrike said:
Damn, another 40-50euro >.>

I'm on a tight budget and I wanna' buy a new graphics card for which I need a new power supply. A new monitor and then maybe a CPU cooler.

Let's say:
GPU: 175$
PSU: 60$
Monitor: 150$
CPU cooler: 50$

that makes around 435$. And buying more RAM is useless, right?
Oh, 435$ looks quite acceptable actually :')
But I hope my parents'll approve it, since this PC was 450$ 2 years ago. Anyways it's the money I earned working this summer, so.. I guess..

Sorry for going offtopic there ^^

Cheers! I've noticed the GTX460. What about that card? It looks way better than the HD5770 for just 200$.


a 5770 is more around 140$ now. not sure where your buying it from or if your outside of the U.S but i know on newegg you can get them for 140$. 175 is more of the price they started at.
September 16, 2010 5:41:25 AM

CrysisComa said:
a 5770 is more around 140$ now. not sure where your buying it from or if your outside of the U.S but i know on newegg you can get them for 140$. 175 is more of the price they started at.


Belgium, Europe ^^
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