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Upgrade to AMD 1100T X6 3.3 GHz CPU

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(new member here) I have a 2-year old Gigabyte AMD GA-MA790GP-DSH4 motherboard with the 790GX chipset and want to upgrade from my AMD X4 945 CPU to a AMD X6 1100T 3.3 GHz CPU. I know from the Gigabyte web site that I'll have to upgrade my F1 bios to the F7I bios using Q-flash. Is there anything else I would need to do after installing the new CPU. thanks


Message edited by wjmeyer on 09-30-2011 at 10:39:34 PM
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Nope that is all you really have to do.

Make sure you put new Thermal Compound between the processor and the heatsink though!!!

Just an FYI... If I were you I would go with the 1090T or the 980BE. The 1090T is just slightly slower and can very easily be OC'd up to where the 1100T can be and is about 20-30 dollars less.

The 980BE (which I have) is clocked at 3.7GHz, and can easily be pushed past 4.25GHz on air. It usually runs at the same price as the 1090T again saving you some money.

If you are going to be using it mostly for gaming and general household / office work you would be better off going for 4 cores / faster CPU than the 6 core models.

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I now have a AMD X4 945 3.0 GHz cpu. I want the faster X6 cpu (has double the speed on speed charts) to reduce the time it takes to backup my blu-ray movies - this will reduce 3-4 hours of processing time (4 cores at 100%) to 1-2 hours, and I can get work to pay for the new $189 cpu.

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I wouldn't do that upgrade..!!!!
it's not worth it right now.
I would instead upgrade that motherboard to the new AM3+ platform and a 990xx chipset.
odds are your CPU and RAM will carry over and you will also have the new chipset / board enhancements.
990 chipset is killer for overclocking and with the (WHENEVER) release of Bulldozer you'll be set with an upgrade path..
my opinion..

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the Thuban (Phenom II X6) is not the good of a performing chip (per core), then Deneb (Phenom II X4) is actually stronger.
but now if you need the extra cores for rendering then it does makes sense there but if just wanting a boost for gaming, I wouldn't..

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On the PassMark (at cpubenchmark.net site) CPU performance chart, the 1100T X6 rated a 6314 vs. the 945 X4 rating of 3630, almost twice the performance.
I don't do much gaming on my desktop (more on my Infuse phone). But I hear what you're saying, I may be puting a Hemi-V8 in a Ford Focus. I'll think about waiting (a month or so) on this upgrade. If I wait, I might then ask for a recommendation on a motherboard/cpu upgrade to fit in my existing case with same memory chips, video card, etc. Thanks for the feedback.

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On the PassMark (at cpubenchmark.net site) CPU performance chart, the 1100T X6 rated a 6314 vs. the 945 X4 rating of 3630, almost twice the performance.
I don't do much gaming on my desktop (more on my Infuse phone). But I hear what you're saying, I may be puting a Hemi-V8 in a Ford Focus. I'll think about waiting (a month or so) on this upgrade. If I wait, I might then ask for a recommendation on a motherboard/cpu upgrade to fit in my existing case with same memory chips, video card, etc. Thanks for the feedback.

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that's because of the 2 extra cores and testing in question, the 6 scores better than the 4.
depending on usage it will be a good upgrade, just that there are better options that will also lead to future-proofing.
money might be better spent in another way..


Message edited by malmental on 10-01-2011 at 01:52:04 PM
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I did a system info. and CPU-Z check and it says I have the GA-MA790GP-UD4H motherboard (different from my orig. order receipt back in Oct. 2009), so the bios I would need is F7C released 7/8/10 (not F7I released 12/24/10). Since the AMD 1100T was released months later on 12-7-10, I don't see how bios F7C would work with the 1100T - I need to do some more research so I don't goof things up. I may send an email to Gigabyte tech. support to verify.
Now to go play some golf.


Message edited by wjmeyer on 10-01-2011 at 04:43:39 PM
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you need to verify that and see if they indeed sent you a wrong board.
you might be able to use that in your advantage you might not, who knows.
a new 990 board would be a nice alternative..

 

CPU-Z check was a wise move.
are you familiar with BIOS updates if keeping this board.?


Message edited by malmental on 10-01-2011 at 04:40:29 PM
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I think so, after reading the user's manual and watching a video on youtube. It seems Q-flash is the best way. I probably won't do an update until I'm sure about upgrading the cpu, maybe in a week or two. But before I do, I'll do a backup of cmos and current bios F1 so I can bo back if any problem develops. Thanks for your input.

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no problem, seems like a logical move.
if I can help just hit me up..

 

I just went back and read where you said work will pay for the upgrade....
I must have missed that before.
If someone else is going to buy new hardware THEN HELL YES get it.
but if you have to pay for it yourself then I'd get the motherboard first and keep what you got..]
my opinion..


Message edited by malmental on 10-02-2011 at 03:23:18 PM
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I wanted to download the F1 bios from Gigabyte as a backup (before I upgrade to F7C)- it's not listed!
I'm confused, Gigabyte's web site has the first bios for the GA-MA790GP-UD4H mb as F2, yet CPU-Z shows my mb having F1. Why would Gigabyte not include F1 as a valid (original) bios on their list for the UD4H motherboard.
Also, most web sites I googled (like cpu-upgrade.com) show the UD4H mb only having the AM2/AM2+ socket, yet mine has the AM3 socket withthe AMD 945 cpu...... very confusing.

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Message edited by wjmeyer on 10-03-2011 at 03:02:23 PM
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wjmeyer wrote :

I wanted to download the F1 bios from Gigabyte as a backup (before I upgrade to F7C)- it's not listed!
I'm confused, Gigabyte's web site has the first bios for the GA-MA790GP-UD4H mb as F2, yet CPU-Z shows my mb having F1. Why would Gigabyte not include F1 as a valid (original) bios on their list for the UD4H motherboard.
Also, most web sites I googled (like cpu-upgrade.com) show the UD4H mb only having the AM2/AM2+ socket, yet mine has the AM3 socket withthe AMD 945 cpu...... very confusing.


don't put too much into that...
all you have to do is save a copy of your current BIOS since it is F1.
save it to your HDD and/or USB stick.
Gigabyte just doesn't feel the need to list the original BIOS when the new BIOS are enhancements of the first anyways.
the BIOS updating tool will allow you to also save a copy of the current BIOS.
just download the BIOS you want and use the upgrade tool..

 

and your board is actually AM2+ and not AM3.
AM3 is DDR3 RAM, your is DDR2.
it has enhanced BIOS abilities and with the proper update (or from beginning) it had the abilities to run the AM3 chip.
but it's an AM2+ board, yes..


Message edited by malmental on 10-03-2011 at 03:18:23 PM
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If my board has the AM2+ socket, the Gigabyte CPU processor support site (http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3003) doesn't even list my AMD 945 X4 cpu. The 945 (which CPU-Z says I have) is only listed on the AM3 socket list.
I need to open the computer to verify exactly what I have, I know the mb has the model no. printed on the edge of the board, how do I know which socket I have?

Update: The following from wikipedia:
As AM3 processors also support DDR2, they are backwards-compatible with Socket AM2/AM2+, contingent upon a BIOS update for the motherboard. Manufacturers including Asus,[5] Gigabyte,[6] and others have labeled existing AM2/AM2+ boards as being "AM3 Ready" or similar, indicating that BIOS support is provided for the specified boards. This allows existing AM2/AM2+ systems to upgrade the CPU without having to upgrade any other components.

This answers my question - apparently I can put an AMD 1100T X6 cpu in my AM2+ socket and it will work, even with my DDR2 memory. I'm learning all the time.


Message edited by wjmeyer on 10-03-2011 at 06:15:16 PM
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your putting way too much into this......
odds are the chip is not listed because the list from Gigabyte is probably old and has not been updated.
stop looking for the answers to be spelled out for you because it's apparent your confused or in over your head in terms of understanding the AM2+ socket.
and as I stated, your making a bigger deal than it needs to be.

 

you can open up your box if you wish but odds are it is what it is and cpu-z says what it is.....
and now I'm telling you, your board is an AM2+ board, period..
the 945 was released after the list (original list) from Gigabyte was made and posted.

 

945 is an AM3 chip but like I stated, your board is able to run AM3 chips with a BIOS update.
it will not be able to run the new AMD Bulldozer chips because it is not AM3+.

 

so move on about it..

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128352
GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

 

Supported CPU

 

CPU Socket Type
AM2+/AM2

 

CPU Type
Phenom FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2

 

FSB
2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)

 


so now save a copy of your BIOS and then download the proper BIOS for the update.
use the update tool.
when completed you should be able to run all if not most of the AM3 chips...
but your board running on DDR2 RAM is also proof of that board being AM2+.

 

I'm trying to explain it to you as nicely as possible without getting angry.
you are emphasizing too much on the wrong thing.
I told you what it is and I too have an AM2+ board with an athlon ii x3 450 in it.
the athlon ii x3 450 C3 stepping is a AM3 chip..


Message edited by malmental on 10-03-2011 at 05:53:40 PM
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Just wanted research before doing updates, don't want unpleasant surprise. Carpet guys have a saying: measure twice, cut once.
Thanks for the help.

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your good, I understand.
go ahead and proceed..

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Nothing ever works the first time. Q-Flash doesn't recognize my usb flash drive (fat-32 format), but does see my usb 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drive. However, it doesn't see the F7C bios file, even when I rename it in 8.3 format. I plan to try another usb flash drive tomorrow night. I just can't win, any thoughts?

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use HDD to store BIOS file..
for now.

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I finally got Q-flash to see the USB floppy drive and successfully updated to the F7C bios (verified with CPU-Z), and everything seems to work fine. I reformatted the floppy disk and that did the trick. Now to order the AMD 1100T cpu, and let work pay for it. I noticed that a cooling fan comes in the box with the new cpu, does AMD usually include thermal paste in the box?
The fun continues. Thanks again.


Message edited by wjmeyer on 10-04-2011 at 12:00:04 PM
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yes..
the actual heatsink will have an application of paste on it already.
I do recommend running down to your local Radio Shack and picking up a $9 tube of Artic Silver 5 thermal paste..

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The AMD X6 1100T arrived yesterday, installed last night, working great at about double speed of X4 945. I was surprised at how much force was needed to lever down the fan/heatsink to the processor (I checked that the cpu was fully inserted/seated before flipping lever). But everything is working fine, thanks for your help.

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wjmeyer wrote :

The AMD X6 1100T arrived yesterday, installed last night, working great at about double speed of X4 945. I was surprised at how much force was needed to lever down the fan/heatsink to the processor (I checked that the cpu was fully inserted/seated before flipping lever). But everything is working fine, thanks for your help.


excellent and no problem...
now we have to check the temps to make sure you didn't use too much thermal paste.
search for and download coretemp.exe and use installer and run it
it only takes a small drop or thin line to keep the cpu cool and most of the time people use too much.

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Update: I decided to upgrade my mb to the GA-880GM-usb3 (with hdmi) for my new 1100t and move the old 790 with the 3.0Ghz to my old computer. Now I'll have faster memory, ddr3, and usb 3.0.
(The rev. 1.0 of this board is impossible to find.)


Message edited by wjmeyer on 10-31-2011 at 04:43:10 PM
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nice having to units huh.?
re-reading the thread, the Thuban 6-core is a good move because you needed the extra cores for encoding and keeping the old chip for a second unit.
A+ moves my friend.
the new line of AMD Bulldozer chips aren't anything to talk about but negatively.
so for you, good moves..

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I want to get the Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H rev. 3.1 (supports AM3+ socket) motherboard, but can't find it anywhere (not at Tigerdirect or Newegg), where else should I look.

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wjmeyer wrote :

I want to get the Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H rev. 3.1 (supports AM3+ socket) motherboard, but can't find it anywhere (not at Tigerdirect or Newegg), where else should I look.


why that board in particular please explain.?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_nkw=GA-8 [...] mfe=search
looks like 2.2 is available but hardly any 3.1, you might have to get the 2.2 and update the BIOS.
but I wouldn't get that when you can have newer and better technology from a 9-series chipset..
look below on next post..


Message edited by malmental on 10-31-2011 at 05:04:54 PM
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this is what you really want and for the same price approx...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128521
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131767
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128519


Message edited by malmental on 10-31-2011 at 05:03:33 PM
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I got the GA-880GM-UD3H, rev. 3.1 with the AM3+ socket, 6Gb/s SATA, & USB 3.0 (I also wanted FDD/IDE headers and HDMI out), and it's working great with the 1100T 3.3GHz X6 cpu. My next upgrade in the not-too-distant future will be a Solid State Drive for my C: drive. Thanks for your help along the way.

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it's a cool little board, where did you finally get it from.?
SSD bro is a definite nowadays.
what graphics card are you running.?

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Tigerdirect. Graphics is ATI HD-4350...., for now. Even upgraded to IE9, better than IE8, but still use Firefox. Everything working fine.

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tiger's cool. I have bought from them too before.
you need to invest in a better card ASAP, you have to much CPU power now for that card, go HD 6770 or better including maybe the nVidia equal
if wanting to game slightly; or just under that for outstanding video.
you have too much CPU power now for that wimpy card.
and I did the same, upgraded to IE9 but still using FFox.


Message edited by malmental on 11-06-2011 at 03:20:06 PM
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