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November 4, 2010 12:13:47 PM

Cheapest Budget Gaming build with low electricity consumption


APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: this month
BUDGET RANGE: 300-350 Before / After Rebates, but playable in all latest games on decent settings.

(my build @ $310.96)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, surfing the net.

PARTS REQUIRED: Processor, Motherboard, RAM and Graphics card.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, ncix.com -- to show us selection & pricing
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Philippines

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1440x900 (i'm using samsung 17" at 1440 x 900 res. my target is all latest games playable on decent settings.... )

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: low electricity consumption is very important.

1. Low cost gaming build. ( I need 200 units of gaming pc for internet gaming cafe use that is why i need super low price )
2. Durable parts for heavy use like 15 to 20 hours a day.
3. Less Electricity consumption.
4. The gaming build should be cool no fans needed just one built in auxiliary fan.
5. Motherboard that can withstand frequent brownouts, cause in my country brown out happens almost once a week.
6. I do have lots of Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 so i'm not going to ddr3.



Gaming build post 1 if anybody can suggest gaming build that can beat this one please post any help would be much appreciated.


AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz $58.99
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BIOSTAR A785GE AM2+/AM3 AMD 785G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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( I don't need ddr3 memory cause i already have ddr2 memory i bought this memory before when they are super cheap all i need is mobo for drr2 )

Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model KVR800D2N5/2G $43.99
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SAPPHIRE 100296HDMI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 $64.99
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a b 4 Gaming
November 4, 2010 1:29:25 PM

I would suggest you include a mobo like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte uses solid capacitors which prove durable with your power issues. I would also suggest that you install an UPS for each PC. Adds cost to your overall purchase and setup, but should lower repair costs over time.

You might also consider the HD4650 instead of the HD4670. Performance is very similar and you save a few more $$$. Here is one I have had GREAT success with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Last, I recommend Samsung HDDs and ODDs (if desired).

Good luck!
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November 5, 2010 4:14:50 AM

Actually in the interest of your machines not getting obsolete for incoming gaming titles i would suggest a superior HD 5670 and an X3 hehe A reasonable balance of lowish power vs staying/relevance power no?


The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
Quote:
Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.



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November 5, 2010 4:13:43 PM

COLGeek said:
I would suggest you include a mobo like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gigabyte uses solid capacitors which prove durable with your power issues. I would also suggest that you install an UPS for each PC. Adds cost to your overall purchase and setup, but should lower repair costs over time.

You might also consider the HD4650 instead of the HD4670. Performance is very similar and you save a few more $$$. Here is one I have had GREAT success with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Last, I recommend Samsung HDDs and ODDs (if desired).

Good luck!



Thanks for the fast reply i just updated my build yesterday :) 
your mobo is cheaper than mine but i am afraid of this cheapsit 740G maybe it is too low for gaming but i am not sure. And your video card choice is hd 4650 cheaper but maybe a little bit battleneck in upcoming new games but i will think about this casue the price difference is big if i buy bulk.
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November 5, 2010 4:23:34 PM

batuchka said:
Actually in the interest of your machines not getting obsolete for incoming gaming titles i would suggest a superior HD 5670 and an X3 hehe A reasonable balance of lowish power vs staying/relevance power no?


The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
Quote:
Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.



http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/Untitled-1572.jpg



your choice of cpu and video card is good for future investment but i tend to lower down my specs not only because of the price that i can save. (i'm using samsung 17" monitor at 1440 x 900 resolution my target is all latest games playable on decent settings.... ) I think amd x2 245 and hd 4670 with 2 gig of ram can handle future games with decent settings. but if i use big monitor with high resolution i think your specs would be better. but thanks for the comments really appreciate it.
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November 5, 2010 5:21:25 PM



309.96AR, With this you get a 5770 which you will get much more life of then the 4670 and 4gb of ram... still the same price range =]
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November 6, 2010 6:50:14 AM

zooted said:
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309.96AR, With this you get a 5770 which you will get much more life of then the 4670 and 4gb of ram... still the same price range =]




sorry i forgot to post about the memory, i just edit my post ( I don't need ddr3 memory cause i already have ddr2 memory i bought this memory before when they are super cheap all i need is mobo for drr2 )
so please help me choose a mobo that will fit my needs, and here are the mobo that i like:

this are the mobo that is available and In my country this is the lowest price that i can get. So please help me choose which one is better and why. thank you :) 

Gigabyte GAM74GS2 + amd X2 245 @$119.04

GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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Biostar A785GE + amd X2 245 @ $111.90

BIOSTAR A785GE AM2+/AM3 AMD 785G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... [..." target="_blank"> _-Product] [/url

redfox 770 a2 se + amd X2 245 @ $109.52

TA770 A2+ SE Ver. 6.x Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/content.php?S_ID=36... [..." target="_blank"> _-Product] [/url
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November 6, 2010 12:32:44 PM

Avoid any of these chipsets from ATI/Nvidia for AMD

GF 7xxx
NForce 6xx
740G
690G

as all of these aren't 'true' AM2+/AM3 mobos i.e they exhibit

a. HT Limitation when used with AM2+/AM3 processors
b. Still on PCIe gen 1.0/1.1, true AM2+ had migrated to PCIe gen 2.0 as of 2008

Gigabyte NForce 630a
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3497#ov
Quote:
* If you install AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec; however, the frequency of AM3 CPU will not be impacted. Please refer "CPU Support List" for more information.


MSI 740GTM-P23
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1917
Quote:

Hyper Transport Bus

• HyperTransport 1.0 supporting speed up to 1000MT/s

Slots

• 1 PCI Express x16 slot with x16 operation (PCI Express Bus SPEC V1.0 compliant)


So in the list u posted i would hit the A785GE+
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November 6, 2010 4:25:56 PM

The HD 5670 that batuchka suggests has the advantage that it is also a very low power consumption card (except the HIS IceQ 512MB version) and it will play several modern titles. It's also not a very expensive card (<$100, even <$80).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533...

I think as far as budget gaming with low electricity usage that's going to be as good as it gets until next year's new AMD Fusion releases come out.
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November 7, 2010 3:12:35 AM

batuchka said:
Avoid any of these chipsets from ATI/Nvidia for AMD

GF 7xxx
NForce 6xx
740G
690G

as all of these aren't 'true' AM2+/AM3 mobos i.e they exhibit

a. HT Limitation when used with AM2+/AM3 processors
b. Still on PCIe gen 1.0/1.1, true AM2+ had migrated to PCIe gen 2.0 as of 2008

Gigabyte NForce 630a
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3497#ov
Quote:
* If you install AMD AM3 CPU on this motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s) spec; however, the frequency of AM3 CPU will not be impacted. Please refer "CPU Support List" for more information.


MSI 740GTM-P23
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1917
Quote:

Hyper Transport Bus

• HyperTransport 1.0 supporting speed up to 1000MT/s

Slots

• 1 PCI Express x16 slot with x16 operation (PCI Express Bus SPEC V1.0 compliant)


So in the list u posted i would hit the A785GE+



Biostar A785GE + amd X2 245 @ $111.90

BIOSTAR A785GE AM2+/AM3 AMD 785G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
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Gigabyte GAM74GS2 + amd X2 245 @ @ $119.04
GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
6813128342 [...] _-Product] Chipset AMD 785G / SB710 HT 5200 Memory DDR2 1066 X 4 LAN Gigabit

GA-MA74GM-S2 Chipset AMD 740G / AMD SB710 HT 2000 Memory DDR2 1066 X 4 LAN Gigabit

If we only talk about this mobo the differencw here is the brand, chipset FSB and price. So can anyone help me which is better? thanks


brand:
Biostar
GIGABYTE win by durability

both of this brand have good reputation for quite some time and still going strong. but i think when it comes to durability Gigabyte win.

chipset
Biostar win by higher chipset
GIGABYTE

Biostar chipset AMD 785G / SB710 vs GIGABYTE chipset AMD 740G / AMD SB710, ofcoures 780G is better, but can anybody tell me how 785G is better than 740G by graph or by gaming performance etc.... is there a site that will let me see what is really the difference?

FSB
Biostar win by higher Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)
GIGABYTE

GIGABYTE 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s) vs Biostar 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s). ( can anybody tell how higher Hyper Transport is better.....)

Price
Biostar GIGABYTE + amd X2 245 @ $111.90 win save $7.14
GIGABYTE + amd X2 245 @ $119.04

$119.90 - $111.90 = $7.14


I think Biostar is leading by few margin, i choose biostar.... guys if anyone of you can recommend other mobo or comment something please feel free thanks............." target="_blank">



A785GE Chipset AMD 785G / SB710 HT 5200 Memory DDR2 1066 X 4 LAN Gigabit

GA-MA74GM-S2 Chipset AMD 740G / AMD SB710 HT 2000 Memory DDR2 1066 X 4 LAN Gigabit

If we only talk about this mobo the differencw here is the brand, chipset FSB and price. So can anyone help me which is better? thanks


brand:
Biostar
GIGABYTE win by durability

both of this brand have good reputation for quite some time and still going strong. but i think when it comes to durability Gigabyte win.

chipset
Biostar win by higher chipset
GIGABYTE

Biostar chipset AMD 785G / SB710 vs GIGABYTE chipset AMD 740G / AMD SB710, ofcoures 780G is better, but can anybody tell me how 785G is better than 740G by graph or by gaming performance etc.... is there a site that will let me see what is really the difference?

FSB
Biostar win by higher Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)
GIGABYTE

GIGABYTE 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s) vs Biostar 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s). ( can anybody tell how higher Hyper Transport is better.....)

Price
Biostar GIGABYTE + amd X2 245 @ $111.90 win save $7.14
GIGABYTE + amd X2 245 @ $119.04

$119.90 - $111.90 = $7.14


I think Biostar is leading by few margin, i choose biostar.... guys if anyone of you can recommend other mobo or comment something please feel free thanks.............
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a b 4 Gaming
November 7, 2010 4:06:55 AM

Yep SB 710 with the ACC, no HT limitation and DDR2 1066 is an option but 800 is good to go ^^
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November 9, 2010 2:20:02 PM

Best answer selected by zealotz.
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a b 4 Gaming
November 10, 2010 6:20:12 AM

Yep happy shopping/building and cheers ^^
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