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November 4, 2010 6:33:38 PM


Approximate Purchase Date: Shortly after Christmas/New Year

Budget Range: $900ish before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, internet, some video watching

Parts Not Required: Speakers, Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: United States of Grand Fenwick (America)

Parts Preferences: Looking at trying an AMD machine.

Overclocking: Not planning on it.

SLI or Crossfire: in the future, maybe.

Monitor Resolution: 1600x1200 (I think)

Additional Comments: None


Well, I'm trying to a) improve over my 3 year old Dell, b) for less than I paid ($1200), c) eye for future expansion/upgrades, and d) learn some. I know I'm planning out a bit ahead but it's fun to dream.

I've been reading here at Tom's and reviews over at newegg. What I'm mainly worried about is compatibility.

My current Proposed Build:

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

ASUS EAH5830 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5830 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity

Rosewill BRONZE series RBR750-M 750W Continuous@40°C, 80Plus Bronze Certified,Modular Cable Design,ATX12V v2.3/ EPS12V,SLI Ready,CrossFire Ready,Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7, i5" Power Supply

Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PV736G1600ELK

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Logitech G110 Black USB Wired LED Backlighting Gaming Keyboard

anything jump out at you as being incompatible? foolish? You can't believe I went with that color? Any help/comments appreciated. :) 

And thank you for your time.

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November 4, 2010 6:44:53 PM

For your $900ish you can get an i5 750/760 build which would be a better gaming CPU as compared to the Phenom II x4 965 BE.

Since your purchase date is around christmas/new years, I would wait until mid December to start parting the PC together. Lots of things will change between now and then and if we put one together right now, there will be a better option for the same price in 2 months. A week or 2 before the purchase date would be best.
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November 4, 2010 6:57:26 PM

Coolio! Thanks for the advice.
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November 4, 2010 7:06:27 PM

Definitely wait on speccing out the build until it's closer to your purchase date.

A couple of things to think about though:
* CPU doesn't matter nearly as much as your graphics card for gaming. The 5830 isn't terrible, but you could do better.
* 6 GB is sub-optimal for either an AMD or an Intel i5 build, as it will drop you out of dual-channel RAM mode. It's not a huge deal, but since you only need 4 GB for gaming anyway, you might as well save the $40 or $50 and just get 4 GB.
* You can get a 1 TB Seagate 7200.12 HDD for the same price as the 640 GB Caviar Blue.
* You can get a newer, more powerful 6850 for less than the 5830 you have listed. You could get a 6870 for a little more, if you want to use the savings from the RAM towards it.
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November 4, 2010 7:19:36 PM

I know I should wait to spec it out but it's so much fun to hit newegg and drool over the components. I'm very excited about this.

Thanks for the advice on the RAM, would bumping it to 8Gig be advantageous? I was waffling about that. Though I could start with 4 I suppose :) 
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November 4, 2010 7:22:32 PM

For your uses, there's no need to go past 4 GB. 8 GB if you were planning on doing video or audio editing or a lot of photoshop perhaps.

By all means, drool over newegg. Just don't pick your parts now and forget to refresh the build when you are ready to buy it in two months.
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November 5, 2010 10:25:57 AM

Ouch $900ish on a HD 5830 is very wrong. As a guide with the right combos u could hit an full blown 955BE + HD 6850CF build. Example: my month of October config

$626AR (single HD 6850) // $806AR (HD 6850CF)


HD6K: single/CF review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-685...


In fact by years end we would see Cayman Pro/XT i.e HD 6950/6970 out so your $900 could get even tastier then ^^
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November 5, 2010 10:42:48 AM

Definitely go with an Intel, might wanna look at G.Skill or Mushkin RAM instead of Patriot, although Patriot isn't too horrible I don't think.

I'd also not get a Rosewill PSU, Corsair, Antec or XFX is what I'd recommend
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November 5, 2010 5:23:45 PM

batuchka said:
Ouch $900ish on a HD 5830 is very wrong. As a guide with the right combos u could hit an full blown 955BE + HD 6850CF build. Example: my month of October config

$626AR (single HD 6850) // $806AR (HD 6850CF)
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/batuchka/Untitled-227.jpg

HD6K: single/CF review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-685...


In fact by years end we would see Cayman Pro/XT i.e HD 6950/6970 out so your $900 could get even tastier then ^^


Wow! Thanks for the response!
Complete with sexy (well, drool worthy) picture!

Food for thought at least
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November 5, 2010 5:35:50 PM

Just a bit of advice since I made this mistake on my first build and found myself driving back and forth to Tiger for afterthoughts:

Enough case fans to keep everything nice and cool
CPU heatsink (unless you intend to use the stock HSF from AMD)
Thermal Grease
Anti-static wrist strap
Cable ties

You cannot go wrong with AMD in bang for buck. The 965BE is a great processor with E-A-S-Y oc'ing (I know you said you are not interested in the OC but you haven't built this one yet. It's only natural that you eventually will when you see what you can do with it).

Best of luck and definitely wait for the sales to scream near early to mid-December.
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November 6, 2010 4:29:06 AM

enforcer84 said:
Wow! Thanks for the response!
Complete with sexy (well, drool worthy) picture!

Food for thought at least



Yep - hopefully those drool worthy combos will be up soon - u are welcomed :D 
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November 15, 2010 6:14:55 PM

Been looking harder at Power Supplies, the one I had is out of stock...
Looking at my initial build how big a supply do you think I'll need?

I've upgraded my GPU to a 6850, so there is that.
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November 15, 2010 7:09:09 PM

650W would be plenty for even two 6850s. But stick with an 80plus certified reputable high quality PSU. Corsair, Antec and Seasonic are best. Avoid cheapo no-name PSUs. When they fail, they will destroy your PC. Tom's published an article about PSUs recently. This should give you a bit of insight on why those no-names are so cheap. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/psu-manufacturer-oe...

Running through your build..

Get a mobo that supports sata3 and usb3. This will give you a bit of futureproofing for when usb3.0 becomes mainstream. A good board for the same price is the ASRock 870 Extreme3 or if you don't mind throwing down a little more, the ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 is the best option for mobo.

PSU already mentioned above.

You don't need 6gb (3x2gb) of ram. It would slow down your system as well because you won't be able to utilize dual channel mode. 4gb (2x2gb) is plenty for gaming and even most programs and will allow you to use dual channel mode. Stick with a low latency (preferably 6 or 7) DDR3 1600/1333 corsair, mushkin or g.skill for great performance.

Grab the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB HDD instead. It's faster, higher capacity, and only $5 more (as of this post). It's usually around $60 on newegg promo or microcenter.

Just get the cheapest SATA DVD Burner with free shipping. They all work the same anyways.

Good choices on everything else. Keep an eye out for combo deals for extra savings.
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November 15, 2010 11:18:38 PM

Best answer selected by Enforcer84.
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November 16, 2010 10:03:17 PM

well I was asked pick a best answer but I still have more to say.


:) 


ok here's my latest version of the build.
oh boo can't add my images ok long way:


Antec300 Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower

(Changed from the standard because I decided I want blue lights on my box :)  )

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD

- (Changed for Price)

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP
Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity


- (Upgraded thanks to savings)

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7

-(my other was sold out so I found a cheaper one that may fit my needs. Advice welcome.

AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDZ970FBGMBOX

-(upgrade due to savings.)

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ

- (was convinced to drop from 6G to 4G for gaming, saved money. Though I might go to 8G later on just because I'm a habitual multitasker.

Still pricing Hard Drives. Gonna go with a cheap DVD burner (no blue ray) and Keyboard stayting the same. Things still look compatable to my eyes though technically the Mobo does not list the CPU but it does list the 965...so I'm thinking it'll be ok.

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