Noob needs advice on first build. (Cpu)

[Shrekdavid]

Hey I am building myself my first gaming rig on a budget and was wondering would a Phenom ii x4 970 serve me better on my budget than an x6. All I would be doing is alot of high settings gaming, using the internet and watching movies. Also I would be willing to overclock if you guys could give me some tips for good budget cpu coolers. Thanks.

 

[rolli59]

Currently there is no gain in X6 for gaming, The higher clocks of the 970BE will make it faster than current X6.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=212%2b-_-35-103-065-_-Product
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-cooler-heatsink-roundup,2788.html

 

[o1die]

Any of the phenom II x4 cpus will work fine; look for deals on slower phenoms, and use the money saved for extra ram or a better video card/power supply.

 

[Shrekdavid]

Thanks very much guys. Was thinking that myself but had to get some input from more knowledgeable people before proceeding. On the gpu front I'm going with a saphire ati radeon 6970 and the psu I have picked out is an xfx 750w. What in your opinion would be a good choice for the ram and mobo? I had the asus M4A77T mobo in mind but have heard mixed reviews.

 

[rolli59]

On a motherboard I would go with the newer AMD 8xx series chipset board with USB3 and SATA 6GB support. This would be my choice right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631

 

[Shrekdavid]

Excellent. Thank you all very much

 

[Shrekdavid]

http://www.dabs.ie/products/asus-amd-ultimate-bundle--includes-m4a77t-motherboard--phenom-ii-x4-955---4gb-ddr3--2x2gb--memory--70ZM.html?refs=48620000 Sorry to keep bothering you but how does this bundle look. It seems great and keeps my costs down.

 

[rolli59]

Great for the price!

 

[Shrekdavid]

Will it support the 6970 gpu?

 

[rolli59]

Yes should be no problem!

 

[Shrekdavid]

Fantastic! My rig is all set out now. Will soon have the money and then i'm all set! Thanks very much

 

[minitron815]

Wait why are you even considering AMD when Sandy Bridge costs $50-60 more?

2500K demolishing the 970

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=186

2500K demolishing the 1100T

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=203

i5 760 beating the 1100T in games and, sadly enough, trading blows in content creation and archiving

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=203

By the way the 1090/1100T costs MORE than the 2500k which is laughable.

These are at stock and it's common knowledge that even the older i5/7s are significantly faster clock for clock than AMD chips and will get crushed when both are overclocked to their maximum potential (which is higher for Intel because they're on a 32 nm process as opposed to AMD still using 40 nm). In fact, Phenom II's are competitors for Core 2s and besides the potential for unlocking cores and upgrading old AM2/+ motherboards, are still inferior to Intel on a price/performance basis for 99.9% of users.

So if you can't save/spare $50 for a Sandy Bridge (when you can afford a X6) then you're just plain stupid. Obviously you didn't bother to look up these comparisons on Google (you're sitting on a computer) so maybe you deserve to get ripped off.

Anyone encouraging this guy to build a new AMD system at this time is just as stupid.

 

[oc_mania]

Go for an intel cpu, they perform alot better as you see in the benchmarks minitron showed... And do you see an amd processor in the benchmarks daddigle showed ? I dont ^.^