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November 5, 2010 7:12:21 PM

Hello,

I'm currently looking to build a new desktop computer and was hoping to get some recommendations from those more experienced than myself.

First of all, I don't know anything about overclocking, and therefore probably will not bother attempting it. The sole purpose of this computer will be for gaming. As of right now I mostly play SC2, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, and World of Warcraft. I'd like to get as much as I can out of these games without spending every last dollar I own.

Basically I'm looking for some suggestions. I have an idea of what I'm looking to order, and some opinions would be very helpful. For example: Intel vs AMD CPU? HD6870 vs. EVGA 460 FTW? Case recommendations (I'm really lost when it comes to case selection), etc.

Here is what I currently have planned to order:


ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black $27.99

Antec Six Hundred Mid Tower Gaming Case 600 ATX
3X5.25 6X3.5INT 1 SATA Hot-Swap Bay No PS $89.99

Patriot Viper II Sector 7 6GB 3X2GB DDR3 1600MHZ
PC3-12800 8-8-8-24 1.65V Triple Channel Memory Kit
$104.35

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB SATA3 6GB/S
7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
$74.87

Microsoft Wired Desktop 400 English OEM Single Pack
(Random crap keyboard/mouse combo) $18.99


ASUS MS238H 23IN Widescreen Ultra Slim LED LCD Monitor
1920X1080 2MS 10000000:1 HDMI DVI VGA
$201.49



ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA1366 DDR3
3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI Motherboard
$219.99



Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition
64BIT DVD OEM
$123.77

OCZ GameXStream 850W ATX12V 24PIN
SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fans
$119.99



Intel Core i7 950 Quad Core Processor LGA1366
3.06GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S
$349.99


Cyber Acoustics CA-3001 Black 2.1
Speaker System 8W RMS
$23.98


ASUS Radeon HD 6870 913MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5
2XDVI 2XMINI DisplayPort HDMI PCI-E Video Card
$266.67
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Total: $1622.07


I'd like to stay within this price range, no more than $1700. If I can save money without really sacrificing performance I'm definitely interested in doing so. I usually tend to run with my computer until it's incapable of playing anything out there, as is the state of this computer, so being prepared for future games is certainly a plus.

I've taken these prices from NCIX (I live in Canada). They do price matching so if you build a cheaper/better machine from a different Canadian website that's fine as well.

Thank you all for taking the time to read my post!

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November 5, 2010 7:47:17 PM

I buy from NCIX all the time, and I'll share a few tricks with you...

First of all, Pricebat.ca is your friend. It'll get you the cheapest price on all of that stuff so that you can match it. BestDirect.ca is usually the cheapest...

And as for opinions on the build itself:

I'm a fan of intel processors at the moment - the Phenoms don't really compete. I've got both a 1090t and a i7 930 right now. The way you're going will give you lots of room to upgrade down the road as well (like adding another video card, etc).

You could save money without sacrificing too much by overclocking an i5 760 with a P55 motherboard instead if you wanted.

For video cards, I just bought a MSI GTX 460 Hawk Talon Attack (gay name, sweet card) from there last week, and I'd recommend it. The EVGA 460 FTW is pretty much the same thing but clocked a little bit faster. 6870s are nice also, but nVidia ones generally will perform better for most of the games you're playing.

Lastly, I'd change out that PSU if I were you... A good quality 750w one will be cheaper and better in the end. Right now they have the Modular Antec 750w TruePower ones on for $79 there as well...

Anyway, looks like a sweet system overall, so good luck!
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November 6, 2010 10:48:36 AM

Even i am interested in the TALON card but i only have a Coolermaster GX 550 PSU, PII 955BE, 1 SATA and 1 Optical drive. Will the PSU be sufficient for TALON else ill drop the idea and get maybe a 6850.
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November 6, 2010 11:02:41 AM

Good call with pricebat! That'll be really handy instead of looking on like 8 different websites lol.

You're the second person to recommend I get an i5 760 as well. Seems to be a popular choice for gaming... and that will indeed save me a good amount of money.

Yeah I noticed in a few benchmarks that the 460 performs better at lower resolutions, and I won't be going beyond 1920x1080. I'll have to look into this Talon of yours haha.

The PSU I realized I made a mistake with, but thank you for reminding me!

All of your suggestions were really helpful... I have some changes to make now.

Thanks again!
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November 6, 2010 5:01:59 PM

KJ, you'll be fine with a 550w PSU, the 460s aren't too power hungry!

And as for your system again:

The i5 760s aren't quite as impressive in most benchmarks, but they do perform just as well in games. If you add in a nice CPU cooler (Hyper 212+ is a good cheap one) you can overclock it and get more performance than a i7 980x in games... Either way is fine though, I mean I've personally got an i7 930 right now...

That Talon as well will perform quite nicely at stock speeds, plus, most people that I've heard of with them can overclock them to 950mhz or 1000mhz (675 is a stock card, 810 is the Talon default). At that speed, it's actually faster than a stock GTX 480 in most tests (3dmark Vantage for example).

I guess you also asked for case suggestions earlier too - I'd get an Elite 310 if you want something cheap, an Antec 300 as your next step up, Antec 900 / Antec DF-30 / CM Storm Sniper / CM 690 Advanced / CM HAF 922 as something in the middle, or the case I want next, Corsair Graphite 600T. It's just preference really, so pick something you won't mind looking at for a while.

Anyhow, just shout if you have any more questions! Have fun with the build!
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November 7, 2010 1:54:30 PM

Okay after getting a lot of recommendations from various people to use an i5 760 CPU with 4GB of DDR3 1333 RAM and doubling up on my video cards with either 2x Radeon 6870 or 2x NVidia 460 GTX (OC'd); I've been trying to select a new motherboard.

I'm having difficulty deciding which is best for me however.

I originally planned to go with the ASUS Sabertooth 55i to match my original choice of the Sabertooth x58. But after looking around I came across a feature on other boards which as far as I know, the Sabertooth lacks. That feature being Auto overclocking.

I have 0 experience with overclocking, and I originally had no intentions of doing so as I was afraid I might fry something on my computer, and I can't afford to be doing that.

BUT... some of the boards seems to have built in OC capabilities that the motherboard takes care of by itself. I assume this auto overclocking is safe to use 24/7; which means I get a faster computer with no risk.

So here are the boards I had been looking at:

MSI P55A Fuzion ATX LGA1156 P55 = $204.06
MSI P55A-GD65 P55 ATX LGA1156 = $149.99
ASUS P7P55D Deluxe LGA1156 P55 = $218.99
ASUS P7P55D Evo LGA1156 P55 = $199.99
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA1156 P55 = $192.30
ASUS Maximus III Gene LGA1156 = $149.99 (micro ATX - I'm not sure if this is an issue or not)
ASUS Sabertooth I55 LGA1156 P55 = $164.44

Prices are based on the NCIX website as that is likely where I will be purchasing my computer seeing as they can build it for me, saving me the hassle of having to return defective parts and ensuring I have a properly built machine.

So basically I'm wondering if this Auto OC feature is worth it for someone who otherwise will probably not be doing any OCing. Or is the Sabertooth 55i still a better board for me regardless of OCing or not?

There could possibly be better boards than any of the boards I've listed here as well; but based on what NCIX has available, and considering price, these seemed to be the best options for me.

Thanks again for any input!
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November 7, 2010 4:44:58 PM

I'd pick that Maximus Gene out of that list for sure. Those boards are quite nice. The Auto OC option is handy, although manual overclocking isn't too tricky these days. It is also quite hard to fry a processor as well haha...

Either way though, that i5 760 can run at 3.4 or 3.6ghz without any problems whatsoever as long as you have a decent CPU cooler on there. Make sure you don't use the stock one if you're OCing. And yes, it will give you quite a bit more performance for free! Definitely worth it.

The board I bought myself not too long ago was the EVGA P55 FTW, which you could get for $199. That's another one I'd recommend.
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November 8, 2010 10:27:29 PM

One more question comes to mind... should I buy a CPU Heatsink or is the stock Heatsink with the i5 760 enough?
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November 8, 2010 10:42:10 PM

It's definitely worthwhile to overclock, and to do that, you should really grab a CPU Heatsink. The Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is one of the best ones out there for the price...

If you are just going to run it at the stock 2.8, then there isn't too much of a need.
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