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Comparing Asus Essentios

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November 6, 2010 7:19:27 AM

I posted a message here

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/297817-31-will-asus-e...

but now I have a simpler question. Comparing the Asus Essentio CM1630-05 to the CG1330-07, is the CG1330 worth the $370 price difference? Here is a comparison of them on Best Buy:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat13504&typ...

(the direct link doesn't work but if you copy-paste the link source it does)
a c 307 Ĉ ASUS
November 6, 2010 2:49:08 PM

Just in hardware alone yes! If you are looking for gaming the GPU in the 1330 is crap and needs upgrade. Not knowing the size of the PSU it is hard to tell but adding $200 PSU+GPU to the 1630 it would be a better gaming rig than the 1330, as is, regardless of other hardware differences.
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November 6, 2010 6:55:33 PM

rolli59 said:
Just in hardware alone yes! If you are looking for gaming the GPU in the 1330 is crap and needs upgrade. Not knowing the size of the PSU it is hard to tell but adding $200 PSU+GPU to the 1630 it would be a better gaming rig than the 1330, as is, regardless of other hardware differences.



So the $370 price difference of the 1330 vs the 1630 is justified by the better hardware? Forgot to mention, the PSU in the 1630 is 300w, in the 1330 its 400w. I know that's crappy but for what I need it should be okay.

I'm not going to use it for gaming, it's mainly for recording/mixing/editing music, graphic design (photoshop illustrator etc) and editing video. Video editing is the main reason I started looking at the 1330 instead since it has more ram and 6 core processor vs. 2 in the 1630. Just wasn't sure if the price difference was justified, adding up the prices of the different parts I couldn't come up with that much of a difference (but it's hard to figure out).
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a c 307 Ĉ ASUS
November 6, 2010 7:16:15 PM

Based on your use the 1330 is what you want no question. The CPU is more than $100, the extra ram is $100, the discrete HD5450 is $50. Difference in Case, PSU and possible motherboard it all adds up.
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November 9, 2010 12:31:58 PM

rolli59 said:
Based on your use the 1330 is what you want no question. The CPU is more than $100, the extra ram is $100, the discrete HD5450 is $50. Difference in Case, PSU and possible motherboard it all adds up.


Hi rolli59, we got the CG1330 and I've tested it with After Effects and Premiere Elements and it doesn't seem to be any faster than the CM1630 at all. :fou:  AE has a setting where you select how many processor cores to use, I chose 6 but it still doesn't seem to work any faster than the other computer. (Rendering a basic video with few effects still happens at 8 fps instead of 29.9 etc)

Should there be a noticeable difference? Am I doing something wrong? It does seem to be making much less "grinding noises" than the other computer, and when I render in AE the ram gets filled up so I know it's at least making use of the 4 extra GB of RAM.

BTW I used NovaBench and these are the results for the CG1330 vs the CM1630, does this seem to be in line with the $370 price difference?

CM1639:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
AMD Athlon II X2 220 @ 2800 MHz
Graphics Card: AMD 760G

3840MB System RAM (Score: 108)
- RAM Speed: 3592 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 241)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 51738432
- Integer Operations/Second: 166015614
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 780598

Graphics Tests (Score: 18)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 65

Hardware Tests (Score: 41)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 680 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 82 MB/s


CG1330:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T @ 2710 MHz
Graphics Card: AMD 760G

7936MB System RAM (Score: 153)
- RAM Speed: 3811 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 559)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 158906994
- Integer Operations/Second: 589366128
- MD5 Hashes Generated/Second: 897982

Graphics Tests (Score: 68)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 221

Hardware Tests (Score: 61)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 913 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 134 MB/s


(It seems to be showing them as having the same graphics card?)
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a c 307 Ĉ ASUS
November 9, 2010 2:00:00 PM

The 1330 comes with a HD5450 card but the test show the IGP which is the same as the 1630. Is your monitor hooked up to the dedicated card?
The 1330 has more than 3 x the fps in the GPU test.
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November 9, 2010 3:46:44 PM

rolli59 said:
The 1330 comes with a HD5450 card but the test show the IGP which is the same as the 1630. Is your monitor hooked up to the dedicated card?
The 1330 has more than 3 x the fps in the GPU test.


It's plugged into the card. AIDA32 shows both the 160G and the HD5450 - maybe NovaBench just lists the onboard card even though it's testing the other one?

Is it possible I was expecting too much of a difference between the computers? The numbers on the NovaBench tests (and SiSoftware Sandra) are definitely all higher. And I forgot to include it but the overall NovaBench score was about 403-408 for the 1630 but 841 for the 1330 which is more than twice as high.
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a c 307 Ĉ ASUS
November 9, 2010 4:08:11 PM

Looking at the score it should be faster. I am just wondering if the CPU is stuck on downclock (not enough load) with all the cores sharing the load. Disabling Cool and quiet in BIOS would prove me wright or wrong.
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November 10, 2010 1:01:48 AM

rolli59 said:
Looking at the score it should be faster. I am just wondering if the CPU is stuck on downclock (not enough load) with all the cores sharing the load. Disabling Cool and quiet in BIOS would prove me wright or wrong.


I disaled cool & quiet under CPU settings but the scores are about the same.

Although I didn't notice a speed improvement, I did notice less hdd noise which I'm guessing is because of having more RAM? (not a computer expert :??:  ) Since the processor is 2.7gHz vs 2.8gHz in the 1630, would you expect the speed to be about the same in non-multithreaded programs?

Also, I learned how to change the processor settings in After Effects so it uses 6 processors and now I see what the difference is, with 6 available cores it can render 6 separate frames at the same time at almost full speed which would definitely be better than the 2-core 1630, right?
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