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[Solved] Need Advice on Computer Building

Forum Systems : New Build [Solved] Need Advice on Computer Building

Best answer from batuchka.

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Hi.

My build:
•CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 8mb/3400 AM3 Black Edition - Box
•MOBO: Gigabyte Ga-890gpa-ud3h
Memory QVL
•RAM:G. Skill Eco 4gb Ddr3 1600 Mhz Dual Channel - F3-12800CL7D-4GBECO
•HDD: HD Western Digital 1000GB Caviar Black WD1002FAEX SATA 6Gbp/s 7200RPM, 64MB Buffer
•PSU: Corsair TX Series CMPSU-850TX TX850W PFC ACTIVE EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS
•GPU: onboard HD 4290
•Case: NZXT Apollo Crafted Series - BOX

I want to make a System to play Starcraft 2 and some other games like F1 2010, Fifa 2010, Battlefield 2 and Call of duty 4.
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Stracrfat 2:
Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Updated with the latest Service Packs) with DirectX® 9.0c
Dual Core 2.4Ghz Processor
128 MB PCIe NVIDIA® GeForce® 6600 GT or ATI Radeon® 9800 PRO video card or better
or
512 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800 GTX or ATI Radeon® HD 3870 or better
12 GB available HD space
2 GB RAM
DVD-ROM drive
Broadband Internet connection
1024X720 minimum display resolution
PC Recommended Specifications:

Call of Duty 4:
RECOMMENDED
Pentium® III 1000 or Athlon™processor or higher
Graphics NVidia Geforce/ FX or Ati Radeon = 128 mb or higher
English version of Microsoft® Windows® 98/98SE/ME/2000/XP
256MB of RAM
52x Speed CD-ROM drive
100% DirectX® 9.0a compatible 16 bit sound card and drivers
100% Windows® 98/98SE/ME/2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and drivers
DirectX® 9.0a (not included)

F1 2010:
Windows XP/Vista/7
DirectX 9.0c
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.66GHz or Athlon X2 4200+
2GB RAM
Graphics Card: GeForce 9800 or ATI Radeon HD 4850 series
DirectX Compatible Sound Card or motherboard audio
Dual Layer Compatible DVD-ROM Drive
12.5 GB Hard Drive Space

BattleField:
•800 MHz or faster Intel Pentium III or AMD Athlon processor
•256 MB or more RAM
•16x or faster CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive
•1.2 GB free hard disk space plus space for saved games
•64 MB or greater video card which supports Transform & Lighting
•Environmental Audio™ capable sound card
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I would like to know if this build will work fine, stable.

And on gigabyte website it says this motherboard only work with 1066,1333 and 2000(OC) memory.
Can I set the bios to work with this 1600 memory or is better to buy a 1333 memory or overclock to 2000mhz?

Later I plan to get offboard GPU card radeon HD5850 so I need to build a system that will support it.

Thanks in advance,
Pedro.

Reply to pedroluizcs
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Why does every pick the WD drives then all the regular's on the forum come tell them to get the Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 its faster and better.

thats a good mobo, same one I'm getting.

If your going to OC get the 955BE, upgrading to 965 is a waste of $ if you plan to OC anyway.

And the mobo can use 1600mhz memory, if you look it up on newegg the reviews have people stating specs with DDR3 1600 memory so your good there.

Reply to vindictive

You don't have to sacrifice on the gpu at your price range. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9260/600r.png

You can always add another 6850 when it starts showing its age.=]

Reply to zooted

I agree - u can scale down 850W PSU, 890GX and 1TB/SATA 6GB/s hdd to hit at least a HD 6850 in there? There is no gain running SATA 6GB/s mechanical drives ...different story for SSDs

Reply to batuchka

I know nothing about overclocking but I am reading a lot and planning to do it after the end of the warranty.

So it´s better to get an offboard video card and 1TB 3gb/s.
I thought for games 1TB 6gb/s was better but now I understand that the game will be into memory so a faster HD doens´t matter. It´s a waste of money.

About the 850W PSU. I used a site called eXtreme PSU Calculator and Asus PSU Calculator Page and both shows at least 755W.

Another thing is that the gigabyte site shows that it does not support 1600mhz but a lot of other site says it support but know I understand too that it support it.


An PciExpress x8 makes much difference from x16? Because my motherboard if I use crossfire both step down to x8.
If it makes a big difference I will buy another motherboard with no onboard card but x16.


Thanks everybody.

PS: Sorry about the english mistakes.


Message edited by pedroluizcs on 11-08-2010 at 12:02:31 PM
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Best answer

1. For the same $$ and when gaming is on the table a superior GPU (in this case vs IGP) is always the better choice

2. Site and/or values wrongs

3. Means u may have to manually adjust RAM settings in BIOS

4. On PCIex16 gen 2.0 lanes nope, on say gen 1.0/1.1 yes

Reply to batuchka

With the 955 BE, because its a BE is a piece of cake to OC. Just up the Multiplier then when it crashes, up the CPU voltage. Repeat until you reach your desired GHz, CPU gets to hot, or it can't run stable even when raising CPU voltage.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] lock-guide

------------------------------ *Disclaimer!* My FIRST suggestion is to wait for Intel Sandy Bridge, Jan 5th. Anything said above will be my second suggestion *Disclaimer!*
Reply to vindictive

^
pretty much.

------------------------------ A+, Net+, MCDST, DSCE (Dell)
Reply to malmental

Thanks for the help vindictive, zooted and batuchka.

Reply to pedroluizcs

Yep happy shopping/building and u are welcomed ^^

Reply to batuchka

Hi! =)

CPU:140 WATTS (Phenom 2 X4 965)
MOBO: IGP(HD4290) 171WATTS /// offboard Graphic 478WATTS (Gigabyte Ga-890gpa-ud3h)
RAM: 292 WATTS (G. Skill Eco 4gb dd3 1600mhz)
HD 6.8 WATTS (WD 1TB 6gbt/s WD1002faex)
--------------------
Total: 609.8 WATTS or (916.8w offboard graphic)

I´ve made some search and a 700W supply will fit good for my system.
(It´s hard to decide what PSU to buy.)

Do you people think the "OCZ 850W GameXStream ATX12V v2.2 Active PFC" is as good as "Corsair TX Series CMPSU-850TX Active PFC" ? The OCZ is cheaper.

And what about the "OCZ 700W StealthXStream OCZ700SXS" ?
I found that StealthXStream and GameXStream are the same but GameXStream has more power on 12+ v.
The OCZ StealhXStram is chapear than the GameXStream.

Another thing is that they have 80% Efficiency so:
a 850W will work on 680W and a 700W will work on 560W ? Am I right?

So if I need 609.8 WATTS will I have to buy the 850W ?

*Good articles are in english so sometimes I don´t understand correctly.

Thanks,
Pedro.


Message edited by pedroluizcs on 11-13-2010 at 09:56:10 PM
Reply to pedroluizcs

No. The corsair is a much better reliable brand that would most likely last longer because they use better parts (psu wise).

------------------------------ *Disclaimer!* My FIRST suggestion is to wait for Intel Sandy Bridge, Jan 5th. Anything said above will be my second suggestion *Disclaimer!*
Reply to vindictive

^
and that power calculator crap is just that, crap.
but go with corsair..

------------------------------ A+, Net+, MCDST, DSCE (Dell)
Reply to malmental

Crap.

------------------------------ *Disclaimer!* My FIRST suggestion is to wait for Intel Sandy Bridge, Jan 5th. Anything said above will be my second suggestion *Disclaimer!*
Reply to vindictive

Nice!

I am going to buy Samsung Spinpoint f3, Phenom 955 and CorsairPSU instead of WD, 965 and OCZ.

Thanks again everybody! You´re good people. :hello:


Message edited by pedroluizcs on 11-14-2010 at 12:19:40 AM
Reply to pedroluizcs

Yep enjoy ya weekends and cheers ^^

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