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Hi guys, i just joined, because iv been looking on here for a while and have decided im going to make a gaming pc :)
ok, what i wanted to do was find out whether all these components work together properly, and would have sufficient overclocking capabilities :)

 

I would also like to know what you think about the components, good quality for the price or not? i cant afford more than £400 for everything :) thanks for reading and hopefully i get somewhere.

 

1x AMD Athlon II X3 445 3.1 GHz cpu : 58.12
2x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Memory ram : 52
1x sus ATI Radeon HD 5770 "CuCore" 1024MB GDDR5 graphics : 110
1x Asus M4A88T-V EVO/USB3 880G Socket mobo : 77
1x Antec three hundred case : 50
2x Coolermaster 120x120x25mm SickleFlow Green LED Case Fans : 14
1x Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro cpu cooler : 16
1x 550W ATX Silent Neon PSU power supply : 25
1x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal paste thermal cpu paste : 5.50
1x @ amazon Grounding wristband : 5
hd : got
wireless thingy : got

 

everything at ebuyer.com part from the stuff that says @ then company name

 

Total Price : £400

 

sorry :D


Message edited by mobohobo on 11-07-2010 at 09:31:12 PM
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whether all what components work together, where's your list to start with.?
intel or amd
nVidia or ATi
need something to work with.

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lol, oops :D there it is :)

EDIT:
oh and the main reason for this is because my dell mobo is rubbish, cant support anything even half decent, and this rig will (hopefully) be able to withstand some current games, but at least i have the option for upgrading cpu and graphics, and mobo if i wanna crossfire :)

 



Message edited by mobohobo on 11-07-2010 at 07:46:20 PM
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RAM you have, NO if your gonna overclock then OK. and why only 2GB seriously.?
you need at least 4GB. you need to change that.
AMD runs by default @ 1333mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231277

 

power supply is overkill unless your planning on two video cards but that motherboard does not support that so there's no point.
so then do you really need a big case for an MATX board.?
i have a similar build check it for comparisons and reference:

 

ASUS M4A88TD-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G
AMD Phenom II X3 740 Black (3.0GHZ) - HDZ740WFGIBOX
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Stock Heatsink/Fan
ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 CuCore/2DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16
8GB (4 x 2GB) G.SKILL Dual Channel Kit DDR3 1333 Model F3-10666CL8D-8GBHK
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB
OCZ Technology 60 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II
SAMSUNG BLU-RAY COMBO 8X BLACK BD ROM/DVD WRITER
Apevia X-Qboii Black Micro ATX Case (clear view)
Diablotek PHD380M 380-Watt MATX Power Supply
120mm case fan / 5.25 bay twin fan case cooler / 3.5in card reader
DELL 2208WFP 22in Widescreen Flat Panel LCD
Windows 7 x64 OEM


Message edited by malmental on 11-07-2010 at 08:22:47 PM
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you didnt read the x2 thing on this
2x Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory Kit CL9 ram : £58
its 4gb :) to fill all 4 slots ok, the ram is a bit pricy :S unless its just opn another site, i only found this
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/226283
and the reason for the power supply is that i am going to probarbly end up buying a six core amd thing and overclocking etc, maybe get another mobo if i feel the need for crossfire, and i want to keep it for a looong time
err, the mobo is pretty good, pricy though :) maybe if i get a cheeper psu i could afford it, got a suggestion for 500-550w psu for about 25? is this ok? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/102994
plenty of good reviews
do you think i should go for the athlon ii x3 3.1ghz or get something better? i thought ghz meant everything, sorry for my noobyness :)


Message edited by mobohobo on 11-07-2010 at 08:48:52 PM
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hmm, wouldnt lemme edit my message... heres what i was gonna type :)
edit:
ok, iv seen your mobo, but found this
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236462
it has 2 pci x16 crossfire compat, seems future proof :D and i think i can afford it with the cheeper psu, anything else? ill edit the first post

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ok. i see it now.

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so would that be a decent pc?
with the mobo posted above and the psu above, with the stuff at the top, is that decent?
also, i was wondering of 2 things, 1 would be to try and find £50 extra and get some sort of better processor, but would that bake a tremendous difference? this will be primarily gaming/3d desighn, so i dont know. also, is ram worse if i fill up all the ram slots, or just as good as using 2...
lastly, do you know an atx case for £50 or under with a usb 3 port, if not, is their a way to install one?

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are you goning to be gaming in front and then multi-task with the video rendering in the background.? (meaning all at the same time.?)
do not fill up all RAM slots if you can avoid it try and use only 2, just double up on size.
sounds like you need 8GB if doing all this..
and I'd upgrade the cpu (processor) to a quad maybe even the six if high multi-tasking but definitely the quad Phenom II series.
8GB (4 x 2GB) G.SKILL Dual Channel Kit DDR3 1333 Model F3-10666CL8D-8GBHK
It's full size ATX board with dual video abilities.
I'm not really a full ATX guy so I'd have to look for a case.
you can easily install a USB 3 port as long as motherboard supports it for optimal performance.


Message edited by malmental on 11-07-2010 at 09:22:07 PM
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yeah, thats one of the features of the board :D ima go with the antec three hundred, amazing reviews, and no, i wouldnt game and render at the same time, however.... that would be better than watching rubbish telly for 1 hour... what would i need either way...? (so in the background or doing both seperatly) like would i need better cpu or more ram, rams expensive :P

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it's worth it though.
hey, prices will drop when the new stuff comes out from AMD and Intel
and don't forget black friday and holiday sales.
8GB is more than likely all you'll need so just get it out of the way.
get off the triple core idea from the way i understand your usage.
goiing quad.
detailed links for you:

 

http://www.cpu-data.info/index.php?gr=42
http://www.cpu-data.info/index.php?gr=35
http://www.cpu-data.info/index.php?gr=32


Message edited by malmental on 11-07-2010 at 09:33:13 PM
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so wait whens black friday lol, and when do they release new stuff? gonna suck waiting 6 months though :D

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friday after thanksgiving... lol

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xD lol, anyway, im guessing i should google when they release new stuff, do you think the prices will drop by much when that happens, more or less than after-christmas sales

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how about the amd athlon x4 630 socket am3 2.8 ghz 2mb cashe
or should i save for a while and get a phenom for 100?

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anyone got an idea on what else could change? or is that a decent rig?
p.s i hate the fact you cant edit posts

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you can edit posts, i do all the time..
phenoms out perform athlons.

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thats where im confised, phenoms have a lower ghz for the price, is their something i dont know about cpus?

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better cpu in overall performance.

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ok, is their a big performance jump from athlon to phenom?

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big enough to notice a difference..

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hmm,is the processor used alot in gaming? or mainly graphics card??

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hey, mal mental, i read what you wrote in this thread:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] need-build
and was wondering weather i should do that, my pcs pretty crud though...
here are specs... then i can save? (maybe
well motherboard is inspiron 530
2gb ddr2 ram (lol)
radeon hd 2400
500gb 7200 rpm hard drive
e5200 duel core intel chip 2.5ghz

dunno anything else, what to do?

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sorry for all the triple, double replys, it says im not allowed to edit :(

but

edit:
found out i can put ddr3 1333 ram in it :O
and i think it has 2 pcie x16 slots too! :D
and apparantly it can handle most of the new intel quads!
what should i do......

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who says you can put ddr3 1333 in it.?
ddr2 800mhz at best.
http://support.dell.com/support/sy [...] #wp1052310
an it does not have 2 pci-e x16 slots, sorry, not even the mini-tower has the 2-pci-e slots.
it can handle most C2D and C2Q but not the newer i-series cpu is the only thing you have correct so far.


Message edited by malmental on 11-08-2010 at 01:23:20 AM
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i'd still trick it out and keep it for another year.

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i guess.... :P
i tried to edit, but thoiught 4 posts in a row was a bit exessive
:P

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ok, i think this is a goo didea, but final consultation me thinks :)
get whats at the top, ill change in a sec
and then get another 5770 to crossfire
get phenom x4 3.4ghz black edition
and maybe liquid cooling
after i build whats at the top, so i only lose out on £50 of the amd x3
and i can have a decent pc till then, i should have a quad core 3.7-3.8ghz overclocked phenom ii, watercooled ofc :P 4-8gb of ddr3 ram, crossfire 5770 ati cards, and thats mostly it, you think tis a good idea??

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no liquid cooling for me.
why have liquid flowing though you unit because if you spring a leak or spill some when inside your case..
not good.

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kk, is it good otherwise, just found decent cpu cooler like the Thermalright’s MUX-120

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oops i mean coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus

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by the way is it possible to crossfire a 5770 and a 5830 ? or would 2 5770s be around the same performance. i was also wondering what kinda performance (settings) crossfire of them would handle on fps games such as the call of duty series, and rts games (scii) i would like around high settings, and was wondering the mid spec crossfire cards for it :D

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found out i should be able to afford phenom ii x4 is this any good for overclocking and the likes?:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd [...] 25w-retail

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