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November 8, 2010 1:32:41 PM

Question....

Has anyone seen or built themselves an AMD Opteron gaming rig? I am asking this because I have seen some pretty nice builds involving Intel Xeons and I am really curious.

I have tried some quick searching and so far I am very disappointed in the results of trying to find a high-end motherboard for Opterons in what would be a gaming environment. Example....EVGA has the SR-2 which is an outstanding board....but is for Xeons. Does anything exist for Opterons on the same level?

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November 8, 2010 1:36:55 PM

1st off: games aren;t even quadcore optimised as yet....

The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
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Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.

November 8, 2010 3:38:55 PM

batuchka said:
1st off: games aren;t even quadcore optimised as yet...



When I created this thread I was really hoping that this type of lame comment would come later in the day. I was even thinking about placing a disclaimer in the original text but thought against it because I didn't want to bait some troll...."welllll....you shouldn't build something like that because....blah...blah....blahhhhh" :cry: 

1st off....I never asked about software and the optimized use of multi-core cpus. That is a different thread. I already understand this logic because I am not ignorant.

I am merely posing a question about an AMD showing in a multi-cpu arena that seems to only be optioned to Xeons.
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November 9, 2010 4:09:05 AM

Quote:
Has anyone seen or built themselves an AMD Opteron gaming rig?


To answer your question: nope (see link in previous post)

Peeps who come to me with this idea would be instantly laughed at due to

a. Being rich + stupid
b. Just stupid


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November 9, 2010 12:57:50 PM

batuchka said:

To answer your question: nope (see link in previous post)

Peeps who come to me with this idea would be instantly laughed at due to

a. Being rich + stupid
b. Just stupid



Well thank you for once again being such a wealth of useful information. Thank you for once again wasting time and pointing out your link in the previous post because it has nothing to do with my inquiry.

We are so lucky to have you on here to pass judgment on everyone seeing how you obviously have all the knowledge about everything in the world and if you deem something inappropriate then we should as well.

You obviously have some deep seated issues if you have to laugh at someone else because they do not agree with you. THANK GOD your "peeps" have you around to be such a great "peep" to them because they deserve to bask in your great "peepiness".


Since you are obviously having a hard time grasping the original statement let me try this again at a 3rd grade level.

I have seen a lot of custom (will usually cost more than your emachine) rigs that are playing around with multi cpus. All of these have been based on Xeons as there are obviously more motherboards that have been built for that platform.

Now, all these individuals understand that not all software is written to fully utilize multi-core / cpu platforms but it's still something they would like to create.

I guess one could point to the person who climbs mountains and ask "Why?" and the proverbial answer is "Because it is there."

Why does someone build a 1000+ HP engine in a car they drive on the street? The roads are not really built to handle a car with that much power so why do it?

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1553590

Here is the recent custom rig that really got me thinking about why is this not available in the AMD crowd. I guess we are suppose to all track down this guy and laugh at him.

"Does anything exist for Opterons on the same level?"

Will some other AMD enthusiasts please speak up and at least make some intelligent posts. I am suffering here. :pfff: 

November 9, 2010 1:12:22 PM

i looked and i can't find an equivalent to the SR2 for the opterons, though that is just looking at newegg so you would have to put up with low core speed which would more than likely hurt the gaming experience

though if you are thinking of doing this i would hope you do something that can utilize that much cpu power
November 9, 2010 1:42:47 PM

mindless728 said:
i looked and i can't find an equivalent to the SR2 for the opterons, though that is just looking at newegg so you would have to put up with low core speed which would more than likely hurt the gaming experience

though if you are thinking of doing this i would hope you do something that can utilize that much cpu power



It isn't really too much about actually building it (maybe), its a wondering if AMD will ever be represented in the "over the top" arena such as this. I have seen a small handful of "enthusiast" boards that allow some outrageous builds using Xeons but everything I have come across for AMD are more straight and narrow server boards where you could not even run a decent Crossfire setup much less 3X or 4X.
November 9, 2010 2:18:19 PM

ahhh, well you would be surprised that most of the server boards that have more than one pci-e x16 mechanical (could be x8 or x4 electrical) support crossfire on an AMD chipset (namely the G34 socket) and the socket 1207's with the NV chipset support sli

though there is nothing over the top like the SR2 for the extreme enthusiasts for opterons
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November 10, 2010 8:05:36 PM

The thing is, server chips aren't good for gaming; they handle information differently than standard computer CPUs, which is why servers are better at number crunching as opposed to the more random processes a gaming CPU will encounter.

There isn't really a market for it because few people will really buy it for that purpose. It is possible to do it (like you've mentioned with the dual Xeon rigs you've mentioned), but I think it's all about economics; it's not really a huge seller so companies are less likely to cater to the very few who do want the product.

Plus, why not spend that money on something a little more 'useful' in gaming, like GTX 580s in 4-way SLI? ;) 
September 3, 2012 1:37:45 AM

I'm sorry for reviving an old thread here but I actually think that one shouldn't dismiss server grade hardware as being bad for gaming right away. A server CPU is designed for handling many simultaneous threads and conduct many parallel operations. So in practice that may make it useless for an ordinary game that shines best on a strong number-crunching CPU/GPU based system.

But for games that have a more advanced AI on the other hand, this type of hardware configuration would be very beneficial. So by letting the many cores with even more threads (SMT/hyperthreading) run the AI of a whole army of intelligent enemies that together interact strategically to make life harder for you you would make an awesome gaming experience.

AI doesn't necessarily need to mean the intelligence of a friend or a foe, it could also mean the behaviour of a dead object or a particle system. If physics and particle systems could be seamlessly broken up into threads then that would also motivate using a larger server type system to run the game and handle a vast number of parallel calls generated by the individual threads that run the intelligence and physics of the vast number of objects/actors that move in the game.

A typical game that would benefit from such a configuration would then be Skyrim, although as it is now the AI in it is goddamn awful.

How cool wouldn't it be to have real WATER that splashes and interacts with the actors following the REAL Navier-Stokes equations? I have not yet seen this in a computer game and it would certainly add to the realism of the game.
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