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November 8, 2010 11:20:55 PM

Hi I am planning on building a high end machine, but my before I do so I wanted to know if anyone sees any incompatibility issues I may have with the following setup. I know that the components are going to be expensive, but I am going to wait till black friday sales, and maybe get some deals online:

Motherboard: ASUS LGA 1366 Intel X58 Republic of Gamers ATX Rampage III
CPU: Intel Core i7 980X Extreme Edition 3.33GHz 12 MB L3 Cache
Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H70 High Performance CPU Cooler CWCH70
Memory: Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition DDR3 24 GB 1600mhz
Video Card: XFX HD-597X-ENFN Radeon HD 5970 BLACK 4GB
OS/Program Hard Drive: OCZ RevoDrive X2 OCZSSDPX-1RVDX0100 PCI-E 100GB
Data Hard Drive :Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB 10000 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
CD-ROM Drive: LG Electronics LightScribe 10x SATA Blu-ray Combo Internal Drive
Power Supply:Corsair CMPSU-1000HX 1000-Watt HX Professional Series 80 Plus

everything else is just going to be peripherals, and not so expensive items like card readers and keyboard, etc. I'd really appreciate some input.

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November 9, 2010 2:25:21 AM

This topic has been moved from the section Opinions and Experiences to section Systems by Buwish
November 9, 2010 3:23:11 AM

Everything would work, but I have a few suggestions:

Wait for the HD 69xx cards. They will beat the 5970.

Skip the H70. You can get a really nice air cooler for the same price and it will be much quieter. Try the Prolimatech Megahalems with a pair of decent fans.

Why do you need the velociraptor for storage?
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November 9, 2010 4:52:35 AM

wortwortwort said:
Everything would work, but I have a few suggestions:

Wait for the HD 69xx cards. They will beat the 5970.

Skip the H70. You can get a really nice air cooler for the same price and it will be much quieter. Try the Prolimatech Megahalems with a pair of decent fans.

Why do you need the velociraptor for storage?


I guess I figure I want SSD performance to access my documents, movies and music, and velociraptor seems very fast HDD. But now I am having second thought about that. Perhaps I should wait to have SSD to come further down in price. You gotta understand, I have had a low-mid range PC since 2005, and it takes forever to access data. I want something that will prove useful for my demands further down in time. My wife said I can go ahead and put together my dream PC, budget under $5000.
November 9, 2010 3:54:10 PM

thats one dam dream pc o.O
and a nice wife... xD
love your choices especially the revodrive...
but i dont think you need a 10k rpm drive for data...
thats about the only thing that i would switch....
you could try raid 0 if you get too annoyed accessing your data
id say throw the rest of the budget into 30'' monitors and make the best out of that efeinity!
November 9, 2010 4:00:16 PM

get a Samsung Spinpoint F4 2 Terabyte drive for storage. Its SATA 2, but it uses a trio of 667 GB Platters, making access very fast, coparable to 7200 RPM drives, although its only a 5400 RPM drive. Its great and runs $99-109
November 9, 2010 7:42:37 PM

Unless you need the components ASAP, and since you have 5k to spend on a brand new, beastly PC... just overclock your current PC and wait for the next Intel and AMD chipsets (i.e. Q1 2011) and NVIDIA/ATI graphics cards and get those. They will be much more future-proof and will run amazingly fast.

Also, i agree with the other posts about not using a 10000 RPM drive for regular data storage. Either get cheap 7200 RPM drives and put in RAID0 or get a bigger SSD.
November 9, 2010 8:13:36 PM

darkknight4686 said:
Unless you need the components ASAP, and since you have 5k to spend on a brand new, beastly PC... just overclock your current PC and wait for the next Intel and AMD chipsets (i.e. Q1 2011) and NVIDIA/ATI graphics cards and get those. They will be much more future-proof and will run amazingly fast.

Also, i agree with the other posts about not using a 10000 RPM drive for regular data storage. Either get cheap 7200 RPM drives and put in RAID0 or get a bigger SSD.


Agreed! At the very least wait for the 69xx cards next month. And definitely dump the raptor in favor of a couple 7200 drives in RAID. You'll get plenty of speed and a ton more value as far as GB/$!!
November 9, 2010 9:06:35 PM

No one else has commented on his use of the H70...
November 9, 2010 10:14:25 PM

Yeah, it is a lot of money, and perhaps I will wait for the new chipsets then. I have not built a pc for almost 7 years now, and kind of out of the loop. Many thanks everybody, I appreciate hearing reason and advice.
November 9, 2010 10:15:29 PM

What's wrong with the H70?
November 9, 2010 10:28:51 PM

Nothing is "wrong" with the H70, but you can get a MUCH quieter - and cooler solution for a much cheaper price. Unless you are majorly OC'ing, a CM 212+ would be fine for usually under $30. And did I mention it's quieter?

What games are you playing to want to get that GPU? Getting a pair of 460's (1GB), or even a pair of 6850's or 6870's will do you WONDERS and still save you money.

And a couple 1.5-2TB 7200 rpm drives will give for your Data drive(s). Get an SSD for your OS drive and put everything else on the other drives.
November 9, 2010 11:59:15 PM

In addition to gaming (C.O.D, Crysis, EVE online) I am going to use it for Chief Architect, Adobe PS. and maybe MAYA.
November 10, 2010 2:11:28 AM

What is your monitor resolution.

Don't get 5870 in CF (Although I love mine), wait for the 6970
November 10, 2010 2:53:51 AM

Samsung XL-2370-1 23 inch monitors(x2) that i will run at 1920x1080
November 10, 2010 5:16:35 AM

5870 CF is a horrible choice in this budget the best choice is currently going 580gtx.

And the h70 is very good in this budget I'd stick with it. It cools better than air coolers iwth proper fans.
November 10, 2010 6:36:14 AM

The GTX 580 was just released and the 6970 is just around the corner, I'd wait to see which card is better.
November 10, 2010 10:40:14 AM

Definitely dont get the H70, and Id stay away from 5400 RPM drives, itll bottleneck, get 7200, no more, no less

Spinpoint's are amazing, could look at the F3 1TB

and what the HELL do you need 24GB of RAM for? If you're running a secret operation, I want in on this
November 10, 2010 4:29:55 PM

whats wrong with the h70? It's smaller and thus promotes case air flow not to mention it cools great.
November 10, 2010 5:45:26 PM

Water cooling IMHO is higher maintenance and not usually worth the few extra MHz in an overclock. Air cooling is good enough for 99% of use. And the H70, while better than the H50, still doesn't match air cooling in it's price range
November 10, 2010 6:50:50 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
Water cooling IMHO is higher maintenance and not usually worth the few extra MHz in an overclock. Air cooling is good enough for 99% of use. And the H70, while better than the H50, still doesn't match air cooling in it's price range


the h70 has no maintanance and performs like the very best air coolers while costing a bit more. It's not the best deal but it offers some advantages air coolers don't.

BTW: real watercooling blows anything else out of the water. and when you've got something like this as a radiotor boy o boy you'll know what extreme cooling really is all about http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2010/07/20/hai...
November 10, 2010 8:29:51 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h70-liquid-...

"However, if you can live with the slightly elevated background noise level that comes with the Corsair H70 liquid cooling system, you get cooling performance in the good to very good range in the upper segment of CPU coolers.

In the light of air cooling alternatives like Zalman’s CNPS 10X Extreme, which costs roughly $69, Corsair’s new H70 remains a premium-priced product. It's perhaps best suited to environments where space around the processor is tight, and you don't have room for a cheaper, comparable-performing high-end air cooler."
November 10, 2010 8:36:58 PM

I prefer the legitreview over the toms because it slightly more extensive and clearly shows that on high OCs watercooling starts to come in it's own.
November 10, 2010 8:51:51 PM

Somebody_007 said:
I prefer the legitreview over the toms because it slightly more extensive and clearly shows that on high OCs watercooling starts to come in it's own.


I wouldn't deny that watercooling is the way to go for extreme overclocking.

However, assuming the OP is still thinking about a $1k CPU, a $100 liquid cooler is the last thing I'd put on it. Well, 2nd to last, really...sub-$100 liquid cooling options would be first on the "do not touch" list. At the top of the list would be $300-400 invested in a really good liquid cooling solution.
November 10, 2010 9:11:20 PM

I'm not saying the h70 is the best option, but apart from setting up a complete watercooling system it is a great choice. It's definately not as useless as most here claim it to be.

If you've got the time though the best option is to go like coldsleep says with a proper liquid cooling solution.

If you get something like the corsair 700d you can even fit everything internally(3x120+1.120 which can cool OC'd 980 + any OC'd GPU solution perfectly well and you can fit even more in a silverstone tj07, and the beastly case of a lian li v2120)
November 10, 2010 9:22:02 PM

I'm not claiming it's useless. But I agree with mk-ultra that for most people, they will get better value ($ spent, lower noise, etc.) out of an air cooler.

The H50/70 both seem like more of a show piece than a value/performance piece. Not that the performance isn't decent, it's just that there are cheaper solutions that perform as well or better than it, though they don't have as much of a wow factor.

From my perspective, it's perfectly acceptable if you want a no-fuss liquid cooling solution on a less expensive processor and you don't mind the higher noise. For the originally suggested i7-980X, I'd want something else.
November 10, 2010 10:00:37 PM

Somebody_007 said:
5870 CF is a horrible choice in this budget the best choice is currently going 580gtx.


Care to elaboarate on that for me?
November 10, 2010 11:08:47 PM

reaper2794 said:
Definitely dont get the H70, and Id stay away from 5400 RPM drives, itll bottleneck, get 7200, no more, no less

Spinpoint's are amazing, could look at the F3 1TB

and what the HELL do you need 24GB of RAM for? If you're running a secret operation, I want in on this


I will be doing Some Photo shop, Drafting, and some 3d rendering, I will have multiple programs open all at one time (such as Adobe, Cheif Architect, and MAYA are my top 3), and will need this much RAM to be productive and efficient.
November 11, 2010 12:25:17 AM

wortwortwort said:
What is your monitor resolution.

Don't get 5870 in CF (Although I love mine), wait for the 6970



I saw some articles online for the HD 6990, something about 2 processors, but I'm not sure how that would affect performance, would it be the same as have 2 cards in crossfire mode?
November 11, 2010 7:28:47 AM

chief2010 said:
Care to elaboarate on that for me?


5870s barely perform better than 6870 and cost far more. They have less features and their crossfire scaling is fairly bad. And the 580gtx is currently the best card on the market rivalling the 5970 which ussually costs more and scales far worse when you add another. As an added bonus it consumes less power, Its cooler and comes with a great cooler allowing a very decent overclock on the stock cooler whereas the 5970 can handle less heat(fermi can withstand insane temps as many know 480s often go to boiling point and come out alive and well, that's something I wouldn't try with a 5970) and is hotter. Now all this is is currently as amd is brining out new GPUs to so if you can wait wait.
November 11, 2010 7:31:22 AM

V-Key said:
I saw some articles online for the HD 6990, something about 2 processors, but I'm not sure how that would affect performance, would it be the same as have 2 cards in crossfire mode?


Yes it would be but a dual gpu card is ussually a lot cheaper than 2 single gpu cards for example a 5970 is bassically 2 slightly underclocked 5870s in crossfire. Giving you compactness and the same base components for less although it doesn't perform quite as fast as 2 5870s due to the underclock with good cooling and a decent overlclock it will.
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