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November 9, 2010 2:11:05 PM

hi, i have been considering options for a new build, and have everything but one thing though of, the cpu and motherboard, i was wondering if a mobo such as this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p7h55-m-intel-h55-e...(x16)-ddr3-2200(oc)-sata-3gb-s-matx-onboard-vga

paired with an i3 would be just as good as an amd phenom ii x4 and same price range mobo. i was also wondering if the intel would be overall a more future proof solution, as the i7 apparently outdoes the phenom ii x6 by a mile, meaning a more futureproof system!

by the way, my budget for cpu and motherboard combined is £200 however i am in the uk, so use ebuyer.com or scan.co.uk preferably!

thanks!
November 9, 2010 2:40:33 PM

All i3's are dual cores but all Phenom IIx4's are quad cores,but hardly any applications these days use more than 2 cores.So a phenom IIx4 should be more future proof if thats what you want.
November 9, 2010 3:03:25 PM

i was thinking that i could upgrade the intel setup better, by getting an i5 or i7 quad later when i need it, it would far outdo the phenom (apparantly) and be more futureproof :D  by the way, if i got an i3 3ghz processor, would i see a mojor difference compared to the 3.2ghz model?
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November 9, 2010 3:17:24 PM

hmm, i was thinking of doing this, but what restrained me is that i looked around, and reccomendations of intel over amd were lots, with people saying an 15-760 could outdo a phenom x6 etc, and intel are "apparantly" more stable when overclocking, etc, could somebody put an end to what people have said :D  i have NO clue :S
November 9, 2010 3:18:09 PM

What's the point of wasting £90 on an i3 when you're going to end up upgrading to the i5/i7 for £150-£200. Might as well shell out the clams and get the i5 instead if throwing your money away.

If you're spending over twice the amount of the AMD x4 CPUs, any benefits the i5 had would be negated. Plus you would have a £90 paperweight to brag about after the upgrade.
November 9, 2010 3:23:57 PM

Let me explain. No doubt Intel chips are far superior than the AMD chips. What AMD has going for them though is that they offer much better chips at the same price point of the Intel chips. In short, AMD is more affordable.

For the cost of the i3, you can get an Athlon II x4/Phenom II x3. For gaming the i5-760 is about as good as it gets. Not much improvements with i7 or hex core AMD. Where they shine is in productivity. The six core AMD just about matches the preformance of the i7 at a much lower price point.

Both sides are excellent overclockers and neither is "more stable" than the other. That is mainly dependent on the motherboard.
November 9, 2010 3:28:36 PM

ok, so your baisically saying get the phenom x4 :D  ok, anyone suggest a crossfire mobo prefeably asus for like up to 60-70?


November 9, 2010 3:41:42 PM

thats the one i picked out :D  now, this is the final list, if anything is wrong(not as good for price etc , correct me!

1x amd phenom II x4 3.2ghz cpu : 110
2x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Memory ram : 48
1x 1GB XFX HD 5770, PCI-E 2.1, 4800MHz GDDR5 graphics : 109
1x Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G mobo : 77
1x antec three hundred case : 48
3x Coolermaster 120x120x25mm SickleFlow Green LED Case Fans : 15
1x Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro cpu cooler : 15
1x Storm Silent LPJ19-25 500W power supply : 16
1x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal paste thermal cpu paste : 5
1x @ amazon Grounding wristband : 5
hd : got
wireless thingy : got


Total Price : 410
November 9, 2010 4:31:30 PM

yeah, gonna overclock to about 3.8-3.9, anybody reccomend a decent cooler?
(under £30 :D 
November 9, 2010 5:02:05 PM

doesnt that come with the cpu though? will the temp be ok with the stock?
November 9, 2010 5:50:41 PM

cool!, i think this is my build, should be built a little bit after christmas!
November 9, 2010 6:04:10 PM

:D  i bet your intel build rapes your amd one xD
November 9, 2010 6:13:56 PM

:o  nice, when does intel have its moments??
November 9, 2010 6:31:56 PM

hehe, im getting my graphics card a month or 2 after i build pc, comes with a built in ati radeon rubbish thing, but can crossfire or hybrid crossfire when i get it :D 
November 10, 2010 3:08:10 PM

does a decent psu increse performance, is it worth the extra outlay?







November 10, 2010 3:19:29 PM

The PSU does not increase performance but the quality models provide more safety and preventative features that limit the damage to only the PSU in the case of a failure. 80 plus certified models are more efficient than ones that aren't and in the long run will pay for itself with the amount of energy you save.

A cheapo PSU can destroy your PC when it fails. I'd say it's worth the extra bucks for a quality model and they're the only types I recommend. Stick with Corsair, Antec and Seasonic for sure things. Other types can be hit or miss so it's not realyl worth the gamble.
November 10, 2010 3:21:33 PM

ok, thats a bummer, an extra 40 down the pan :s
November 10, 2010 3:23:38 PM

i was wondering, do you think a cheap 600w psu for £18 would last 6-8 months withought destroying my computer, then i can afford a corsair :D 
November 10, 2010 3:32:25 PM

You don't really need the extra case fans, arctic silver, or the grounding wristband. That's 25 saved you could put towards the corsair plus whatever you would have paid for the cheapo PSU.

You can always add in case fans later and reapply thermal paste if you don't think your temps are as low as you would like. Static is overrated and not usualy an issue. Just make sure you touch the metal part of your case while its plugged in before anything else if you're that worried.
November 10, 2010 3:36:10 PM

Way to recommend crappy parts to this guy everyone!

Get a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ for a cooler...
November 10, 2010 3:54:58 PM

ok thanks guys, i was also considering whether to get crossfire 5770's or get a 6850 then crossfire later? what would be the best option..?

ps, i then would have about 52 for the corsair, i can afford it ! :D  and i can get the thermal paste and 1 fan for front of antec 300
November 10, 2010 4:30:44 PM

Get the 6850 and CF later. This leaves you room for upgrading if you need it. The 6850 alone is a really good card and can already max out most games. Going higher is basically just for benchmarking.

The Antec 300 already comes with a rear and a top fan. You can just move the rear fan to the front as intake and will be fine because the PSU also sucks air out the back.
November 10, 2010 4:39:47 PM

why not the 6870? is the 6850 good enough to make the price of the 6870 pointless? (just wondering :D 
November 10, 2010 4:44:14 PM

and final thing, is the antec three hundred better than the coolermaster storm or coolermaster haf 912+ ??
November 10, 2010 4:51:28 PM

The 6850 can OC up to the same level as the 6870. The 6870 can't OC much because it already has such a high base clock rate. Might as well go for the cheaper option. But if you prefer to not OC and can afford the 6870, by all means get it as its still a decent card.

Nothing better about any of those cases, it's just a personal preference in case styles. Some people prefer red lights over the blue ones on the antec. Personally I like the sleek clean look of the Antec 300 and prefer no side window. The rigid haf 912+ is not my style.
November 10, 2010 4:56:30 PM

ok, thats that :D  (i might edit this post depends but otherwise) im finished!
November 10, 2010 5:02:14 PM

ok yah, whats the thing with ram? anybody reccoment me with 4gb ram for £50-60???
is this any good? :
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-(2x2gb)-corsair-xms3-ddr3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-xmp-165v
November 10, 2010 7:28:20 PM

mobohobo said:
thats the one i picked out :D  now, this is the final list, if anything is wrong(not as good for price etc , correct me!

1x amd phenom II x4 3.2ghz cpu : 110
2x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Memory ram : 48
1x 1GB XFX HD 5770, PCI-E 2.1, 4800MHz GDDR5 graphics : 109
1x Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G mobo : 77
1x antec three hundred case : 48
3x Coolermaster 120x120x25mm SickleFlow Green LED Case Fans : 15
1x Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro cpu cooler : 15
1x Storm Silent LPJ19-25 500W power supply : 16
1x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal paste thermal cpu paste : 5
1x @ amazon Grounding wristband : 5
hd : got
wireless thingy : got


Total Price : 410

This in Pounds, or Dollars? I'm slightly confused.
November 10, 2010 7:59:15 PM

He's from the UK so I think that's pounds, or about 660 USD. That should be about right for an AMD build.
November 10, 2010 8:20:07 PM

Cool, thanks. I kind of suspected, but wanted to make sure.
November 11, 2010 2:00:10 PM

so, anyone going to answer my ram question? id kinda like to know :) 

i wasalso wondering if a modular psu would be better? they are the same price :) 
November 11, 2010 3:55:03 PM

:D  should i get that? im not sure if its any good though... :S
November 11, 2010 5:07:18 PM

that they think its dodgy and that a corsair is what they would prefer :S should i just get the corsair tx 650?
November 11, 2010 5:08:51 PM

ok, this is my last idea, and thats to keep my current pc, get a nice graphics card, new psu and case, and better ram, or something, but was wondering what the best board would be for an e5200 2.5ghz intel cpu, then i can get a quad core q series, and that should be about the same as phenom ii when i can afford??
November 11, 2010 5:24:35 PM

i guess... i wish i was in usa, i wanna go on newegg :( 
November 11, 2010 5:33:29 PM

ooh, ill check that out...
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