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Will a phenom II x4 965 bottleneck a gtx 570?

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February 3, 2011 6:58:50 PM

I just wanted to know if this chip would bottleneck a gtx 570 or a 6950? If so , how could I avoid this ? Please help me out :) 
February 3, 2011 7:16:30 PM

i think it will not bottleneck only if 2 card maybe it will

correct me if i`m wrong
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February 3, 2011 7:27:33 PM

Well I wanna know myself..I don't think it would be that bad..but I would like to know
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February 3, 2011 7:36:17 PM

no, that CPU would need alot of juice to bottleneck it :) 
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February 3, 2011 7:55:18 PM

So, if I use a gtx 570 or 6950 will that work out well? Or would my fps suffer? Just want to know if it's a big deal and if that processor can handle one of those graphic cards
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February 3, 2011 8:04:14 PM

A new video card will definitely increase your performance but the change might not be as dramatic as some benchmarks or websites claim. Your CPU will definitely bottleneck the video card (by definition it's a bottleneck since it will run significantly or measurably faster with a different CPU) but you probably wouldn't notice it most situations.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/296?vs=315

Here's a comparison of the 965 (3.4) with the 1100T (3.7 with turbo, the situation with games). If you overclock your processor to ~4 gigs then that will eliminate the bottleneck in games.

Basically you might not notice a difference between a 570 and a 470 with your bottleneck but who cares?
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February 3, 2011 8:04:41 PM

GTX570 > 2xHD4870 in CF which will be bottlenecked by 965. You need at least an i5 750 OCed to at least 3.2GHz.
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February 3, 2011 8:13:18 PM

^actually andy there is some CPU overhead for crossfire. Anyway......

Generally not too much. Of course it depends on the games you are going to play. Some games, like many RTS games, are more likely to be limited by the CPU. It also depends on the resolution and visual detail as to when the GPU becomes the limiting factor. You can of course limit the bottlneck by overclocking your CPU and as long as you have a C3 CPU and a good cooler it's reasonable to assume you will get at least 3.6Ghz with minimal effort but hopefully you get closer to 4.0.
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February 3, 2011 8:14:22 PM

Ok , so if I use a gtx 570 on a stock phenom II x4 965 it may result in some lost fps? Because I'm trying to ensure that if I use a 6950 or gtx 570, heck, even a gtx 560 it won't hurt my performance on that processor..I'll only be using it for a few months until I change the motherboard and processor in the summer for a sandy bridge build.
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February 3, 2011 8:20:20 PM

i don't think it'll bottleneck. But i have seen the new sandybridge cpu do better in other games.
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February 3, 2011 8:32:03 PM

1080p preferably ...but x1050 is good as well...and yes sandy bridge is the bees-knees, I know. But I had to return my ud7 because of this recall stuff..so I need something cheap and good enough to last until summer when I upgrade..or until Christmas for the new socket. I was considering an x58 build but if an amd processor can play my games with good performance it makes sense to go with amd as a temporary fix.
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February 3, 2011 8:38:46 PM

asantesoul said:
Ok , so if I use a gtx 570 on a stock phenom II x4 965 it may result in some lost fps? Because I'm trying to ensure that if I use a 6950 or gtx 570, heck, even a gtx 560 it won't hurt my performance on that processor..I'll only be using it for a few months until I change the motherboard and processor in the summer for a sandy bridge build.

Get the best gfx you can afford then.

Any Sandy Bridge i5 will easily handle any current high-end gfx.
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February 3, 2011 8:41:38 PM

asantesoul said:
1080p preferably ...but x1050 is good as well...and yes sandy bridge is the bees-knees, I know. But I had to return my ud7 because of this recall stuff..so I need something cheap and good enough to last until summer when I upgrade..or until Christmas for the new socket. I was considering an x58 build but if an amd processor can play my games with good performance it makes sense to go with amd as a temporary fix.

Don't waste your money on X58. Sandy Bridge is much cheaper and significantly better. If you just can't live without X-series, then just wait for the X68 which should be released by the end of the year.
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February 3, 2011 8:46:43 PM

I'm aware of that , but I want to get something else to hold me over until better p67 boards emerge..or even when 2011 comes out.
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February 3, 2011 8:51:29 PM

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the cpu dont matter much at high resolutions. SB or X4 wont matter

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/cpu_scalin...


A 5970 eg? Hot damn! Okay so I can use a 6970 or gtx 570 with no worries with the amd processor then! That's fantastic! I'm eventually gonna get a sandy bridge build (again) but I'll wait till some revisions for recalled boards are made and there are no more problems! But if the phenom quad core can handle a 6970 and gtx 570 then I should be okay for a few months.
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February 3, 2011 9:09:42 PM

andy5174 said:
Don't waste your money on X58. Sandy Bridge is much cheaper and significantly better. If you just can't live without X-series, then just wait for the X68 which should be released by the end of the year.


I was only considering x58 because someone was giving me a good deal on the board and i7950..but if I can use an enthusiast graphic card with the amd processor then im better off spending a little extra cash on the gpu and saving the rest for the future build.
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February 3, 2011 9:17:52 PM

Luckily for me I dont plan on playing any of those games on this temporary set up. I'd rather lose a few fps for the short term, and get a motherboard and processor switch in a few months when this sata II debacle is sorted out.
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February 3, 2011 9:47:59 PM

Good idea to do so as you are switching to SB in a few months. :) 
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February 3, 2011 9:56:50 PM

The thing that gets me is that if the mainstream CPUs oc so well, what's x68 gonna be like? I'm thinking that's too much power its gonna be havin..what if they make a rampage iv Extreme? Anyway I appreciate everyones help! I can now purchase a great video card without any worries or regret!
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February 3, 2011 10:58:48 PM

Okay that's good to know..kinda broken hearted after I had to take my ud7 back! Sandy bridge was a nice taste of power...but once the dust settled perhaps there will be more surprises on the horizon. Amd will have to do for now
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February 4, 2011 12:36:45 AM

Not every one of us can afford a $999 CPU like you, Psycho.
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February 4, 2011 12:57:27 AM

Yeah..I feel like dealing with an x58 as well..someone is giving me a good deal on a rampage board and i7950 as well..what to do...id like some crossfire or sli action but the amd processor Im considering getting may bottleneck...hmm..what..to do
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February 4, 2011 2:41:45 AM

asantesoul said:
Yeah..I feel like dealing with an x58 as well..someone is giving me a good deal on a rampage board and i7950 as well..what to do...id like some crossfire or sli action but the amd processor Im considering getting may bottleneck...hmm..what..to do

Just get Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 or Asus Maximus IV extreme (after Intel fixing the SATA issue) if you want to SLI/CF gfx better than HD5870. These two boards also come with two 16x PCI-E as the X58 ones. BTW, X68 will not be backward compatible with X58 CPUs.
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February 4, 2011 2:59:10 AM

I only plan on playing at 1080p for now..maybe a bit less...so I'll use a 6950 or gtx 560..I hear you can oc that card to perform like a 570..all the extra money I save can go towards building a very bad ass sandy/bulldozer rig
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February 4, 2011 3:08:22 AM

Yeah I know it won't be backwards compatible ..it's the lga 2011..and the Maximus doesn't do two lanes at 16x..well..from what I understand.even when I had my ud7 some people told me it was 16x for dual gpu's , but then some people said it's still 8x . Anyway, no big deal to me honestly. I don't bench, so it doesn't affect me. And after this debacle with the p67 boards, I feel like waiting a little longer..just for the socket to mature. Amd may suffice for the time being.
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February 4, 2011 3:22:01 AM

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3 games thats cpu dependant. They make good benchmarks coz theyre coded in a horrible way. Such games shouldnt even be supported especially GTAIV with it bad porting. They didnt even try to get a decent PC version out there. Then again GTAIV only needs anything from a quad and up. We use to run it on the core2quads without issues. Dont think a X4 would ever have a problem with it.

Now list all the gpu dependant games please

Remember that not all games are more GPU demanding. In my opinion, it is foolish to build a new system that is either CPU or GPU bottlenecked as you are wasting the money by doing so. In addition, it is really unwise to ignore popular games such as GTAIV, FSX and SC II.

p.s. I suggested OP to get the best gfx he can afford because he is going to upgrade soon.
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February 4, 2011 3:43:48 AM

Yeah exactly..this is just a temporary set up...once the new stuff is released I'm gonna get my ud7 or a Maximus again..or I may wait longer for x68..we will see once I put it together. And although those are popular games, I currently have no desire to play then. I did, however, clear gta4 a few times anyway. But, I think the amd quad with a gtx 560 oc, or a gtx 570 would work out for a few months.
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February 4, 2011 1:18:10 PM

Best answer selected by Asantesoul.
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