Bulldozer to be showcased at CeBit

I'm ready too. I think that we have waited long enough

Yeah welcome back.I'd like to see how well Zambezi does too.

WB BaronMatrix!

Na they just moved it to 2013. MAHAHAHA!!!

On a serious note, from what i know, i do believe there launching it sometime either this or next quarter. Although no exact date yet unless im misinformed my self.

Client luanch in Q2
Server launch in Q3

Love to see some AM3+ motherboard action before CeBit

If Bulldozer will be on par with Gulftown then it also will be on par with Sandy Bridge too.I would still guess that Intel would oc better though but dang that would be some nice competition.Honestly I was going to get a i7-2600K (until the chipset boondoggle) but if bulldozer compares favorably or even comes close then I will opt for that instead.

Honestly I would be pretty shocked if AMD came out with a CPU not a generation behind Intel.
For them to have caught up with Intel in terms of performance would be quite amazing.

Thanks to all. I needed some alone time. :-)
Yeah, Zambezi will be great to see finally in a live demo. They should have the final revs by then, so any perf "examples." should be relevant for launch parts.

It'd also be great to see some more of Llano.

You ask a good question since there is no available data from any source official/unofficial real/leaked or otherwise.

I'm going to say 40%. Or maybe 25%. Could be 28%. Or 22% or 18% or even 52%. (AND Guess what? Those quesses are just as valid as the 10% figure since they are based on the exact same available data.)

Offtopic, but found THIS link to Ivy Bridge speculation:

Sorry for the Germlish, but you get the idea ..

Hehe very true, but if that AMD BD 8 core / 4 module CPU is priced the same as the quad core Intel SB CPU its competing with, then its all good man.

Wow... you're still alive

I am interested in seeing the pure Integer per clk performance of Bulldozer. An increase in efficiency is a welcomed addition to any consumer & enterprise oriented product. I am hoping that it can give Intel a bit more competition in that department as an increase in Performance per clk (while keeping the TDP in check) can result in more performance per watt (which is good for the environment).

Please explain why it isn't 2 full cores.

Your "leaked" source could in no way be used to create an average approximation of 10% IPC for BD over Thuban.

The person attempting to spread the 10% FUD needs to try to find more credible data to support his claims which are currently only based on his wishful thinking. (And definitely NOT on any posts at XS.)

But we all know that isn't going to happen since there is no data available to support his opinion.

Single Module/2 core. Dual Module/4 core. Quad...

You get the idea.

CHAD! Welcome..sort of...

Keith,
If you really believe even half the stuff you post, that is really scary.

That might be true but AMD has always been about the little guy and the lowest prices. And atm the cheap I7 2600K is competing with Gulftown. Just look at the current AMD 6 cores prices, cheap!

Oh oh this is all so exciting Cant w8 to see what happens!

Confirmed Fanboy? Confirmed by who? You?

I doubt you are in any position to make any "Objective" analysis regarding anyone else on these forums. Peeps know that I am not a "fanboy". I spend half my time arguing with Intel fans and the other half with AMD fans.

Hell... I argue with everyone (sometimes just for the sake of argument). I didn't gang up on anyone. I made a comment and others appear to agree.

What misguided opinions exactly? The opinion I hold of you? I don't think it is misguided considering the amount of jibberish you have posted on these forums. You literally have a hard on for AMD and it is quite annoying. I'm just brave enough to speak up.

I could care less about Intel or AMD, I have various products from both companies running as we speak. I will admit to being bias towards AMD when it comes to graphics... I'll give you that... I'm an AMD fan when it comes to graphics... how's that?

I'd argue against that proposition. AMD is, like any other Corporation, after profits. The profit motive is what AMD has always been about.

Several factors give the illusion that AMD is about the little guy. Here are two examples:

1. They're a relatively small company controlling a relatively small amount of marketshare when compared to their number 1 competitor (Intel). This means that they must compete with Pricing.

2. Their current architecture cannot compete with Intel on a performance level core for core. Therefore to compete AMD must place more cores on a die.

Put the two together and you've got their current Six Core Lineup.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Bulldozer looks mighty interesting from an architectural perspective. I can't wait to see how well their modular design pans out.

To me it looks like a Sandy Bridge killer but we'll have to wait and see how what's on paper translates to in the real world

To get an idea of how 8 core Bulldozer is going to do on the desktop, looking at current workloads, let's take the AMD PHII Hex Core and a 4 core Nehalem with HT.

On those workloads where a AMD PHII Hex core is close to or faster than a Nehalem Quad, than 8 core Bulldozer should be faster than Quad Sandy Bridge.

Where Quad Nehalem easily beats AMD PHII Hex core, so too will Quad Sandy Bridge beat 8 core Bulldozer.

Quad Sandy Bridge will be a better processor than Octal Bulldozer for anything up to probably 6 threads, and after that Bulldozer may take the lead.

But where ever Bulldozer sits in relation to Sandy Bridge, it won't be that long before 6 & 8 core variants of Sandy Bridge comes along and Ivy Bridge as well.

AMD may regain some share in the 2nd half of 2011, but they will lose it all again by the 2nd half of 2012, if not earlier.

But Leon, didn't you know that the benchmarks are rigged and Intel is paying off everyone.

If it wasn't for that AMD would rule the Universe.

@Chad,

Bulldozer will beat the lower end SB platform, hence why everyone wants it to be great. It will allow AMD to truly compete against Intel, even at the price lever,(hopefully). When IB comes out, AMD will counterstrike with the Next-Gen Bulldozer in 2012.