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November 9, 2010 10:31:19 PM

Hello, Da name is ravern and im finally digging that 6 foot deep hole for my old computer lol.

This will be my first build ever in my life. I did a little research, tell me if it will work out... Here we go

Antec 902 :D .
Pretty spacious Casse, comes with 4 cool blue led fans. the one in the back for exhaust runs a little loud according to alot of reviews so i'm going to replace it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Next up is the processor :o .
I heard i7 is the way to go for gaming now, so i looked into the 950, because its like the mid tier of it, and im sure it could OC very well. not sure though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then the mobo. :o  Imma get a gigabyte atx x58. I dont really need that much crap to go on it. plus it supports triple channel and SLI :D 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

is gigabyte reliable?!?

Then the GPU :o  I heard ati isnt that great so im going with two of this card on SLI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is overclocked to pretty good speeds and stuffplus its cheap, so i can SLI to my happiness. *note* Im not familiar to anything of this new age performance stuff lol. I never OCed anything but i plan on trying.* lol


Memory... Since the board supports triple channel, which is good? lol is it? i looked up a triple channel kit, imma get 6gb first, then probably buy another 6 more gb later on lol.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i heard corsair is the only name to trust in Memory aswell so these were perfect i guess.


Next up... I wanna OC my i7, so i guess i need more coooling, so i was going to install 1 120mm case fan to the window of the case, then replace the exhaust one that comes with it, turn it into a intake... and get 2 exhaust pci slot fans, then a cpu heat sink and fan. so here are all of these.

2x for exhaust.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

1 for window fan and 1 for replacing the exhaust fan so 2x.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Dropping this onto the i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

with this compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

then this fan has better cfm then the one that comes with the heatsink soo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


okay, i think that should keep it cool? idk... what do you think?


Then there is the hard drive... all i need is my 20 gigs for music and like 10 gigs for games. and i should be happy.. so i dont need that much. i also heard western digital is the only name you should trust for HD's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

lol. Then 2 cold cathodes because i like shiny stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then the monitor. I decided i wanted an hdmi monitor because the gts 450's came with a hdmi interface, plus this is a cheap screen with 2ms response time :D 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the OS, windows 7 64 bit professional.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

then the inputs.

I liked razors keyboards and mouses, so i got these...

Combo mouse and pad
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

lycosa mirror edition keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and headphones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

then this is a big question... HOW MUCH CAN I OC this machine??? and how much power do i need.

I just want a good Gaming pc for right now. something that doesnt have any fps lag at all. i just wanna run flash games perfectly and actual games like Combat arms, and left 4 dead on ultra quality without lag. 3.06 ghz is okay, i just wanna know how much i can oc this without it dying on me the next morning lol. and how much power should i need.

I wanna get to atleast 3.8 ghz if not 4.0 ghz. but um someone told me that this psu should support me

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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should i do a different cooling setup?

Will this even work together?

will all the blue leds heat my system up?

can i even OC this thing to 3.6ghz?

is this a good build for what i want it to handle?

here are reqs


MINIMUM
Windows 2000
Pentium 3 - 1GHz+
256Mb RAM
GeForce 2 MX
Version 9.0C or later
3.2 Gb HD space
Cable/DSL


RECOMMENDED
Windows XP or better
Pentium 4 - 2.4GHz+
512Mb RAM
GeForce FX 5600 or better
Version 9.0C or later
3.2 Gb HD space.
Cable/DSL



is 6gb of ram adequate?


and does this thing read too? or only write?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



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November 9, 2010 10:35:14 PM

Your links are broken and without those I really can't comment.
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November 9, 2010 10:40:34 PM

ill fix them one sec
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November 9, 2010 10:54:39 PM

should be fixxed nowzzaxoz
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November 9, 2010 11:42:02 PM

Just get a HAF and don't worry about the extra fans and exhausts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Spend the money on a better CPU cooler instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

review
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/tuniq_tower_120...

You are spending all your money on CPU and platform when you should be spending more on video cards. That's where your performance comes from first.

You want to learn to overclock but you don't know how yet... do you really want to gamble with all that expense?

THIS processor is easy to overclock and costs just a bit more, but it goes on a less expensive motherboard and only needs dual-channel RAM, so you save money:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yes, 4GB is all you need.

WD is indeed a good choice but get a faster one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finally, step up to a GTX 460 or two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 10, 2010 12:00:12 AM

What's your budget?
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November 10, 2010 12:14:51 AM

For the graphics card. The gigabyte gts 450 has more clocked core and memory then even the higher end cards on neweggs. but it is overclocked. is over clocking memory hard??? or what? could like a GTX 480 out clock that card if i did it right? also the 450 comes autoclocked so i dont have to worry about messing up. whats more important core clock or the number of stream processing cores?
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November 10, 2010 12:16:07 AM

and my budget.. is like 1,600 and less. i went with this setup because i gained a good MOBO for expansion in the future and already sli functional.

but right now im re everything with AMD parts and it seems 100x cheaper with better GHZ and stuff. idk o-o. now i kinda wanna stay super good gaming rigg for like 1000.
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November 10, 2010 12:34:03 AM

Intel powns AMD for a $1600 rig.. for an $800 rig, yea amd all day.
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November 10, 2010 12:39:14 AM

With that budget you should wait a couple of weeks for the new HD 6950/6970.
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November 10, 2010 12:52:36 AM

Stop looking at marketing numbers and start looking at benchmarks.

http://www.it-review.net/article/hardware/gpu/Gigabyte_...

That shows the 768MB GTX 460 out in front by a good bit... It starts about $10 more than your GPU choice. The 1GB version would be even stronger.

If you want to stay at $1000 you are going to need to make compromises, especially with the CPU.

A good gaming rig with monitor and OS included for $1000 is going to mean AMD, not Intel.
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November 10, 2010 12:58:24 AM

Proximon said:
Stop looking at marketing numbers and start looking at benchmarks.

http://www.it-review.net/article/hardware/gpu/Gigabyte_...

That shows the 768MB GTX 460 out in front by a good bit... It starts about $10 more than your GPU choice. The 1GB version would be even stronger.

If you want to stay at $1000 you are going to need to make compromises, especially with the CPU.

A good gaming rig with monitor and OS included for $1000 is going to mean AMD, not Intel.


my bad didn't see him say nvm $1000 at the end.

if he only has 1k, he shouldn't be wasting $ on some blue glow sticks.
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November 10, 2010 1:19:16 AM

i just want something solid.. something i can keep building on. SLI would be great but not reeded right now. something with dual x16 pci-e would be awesome because i could SLI in the future without a mobo upgrade... idk i just want something solid and looks awesome. but cheap :p 
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November 10, 2010 1:21:55 AM

and right now im willing to spend up to like 1,600 right now, but it would be cool if i didnt have to spend it all right now. something like 1,000 for now, then keep building on it until it is super duper crazyness. I want the badass computer, but if i just got the badass Cpu and Mobo right now, i could go on clearance items and save up for bad ass graphics cards and memory, and other stuff like that.
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November 10, 2010 8:41:34 AM

OK then, let's start with the right base. You do not need Dual X16 PCI-E slots.

AMD Black Edition X4 970 3.5Ghz and a 5850 -386
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Asus 890GX board (with SATA 3 and USB 3) and Win 7 64-bit -220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.skill DDR3 1333 CL8 4GB -70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec TP-650 PSU -90 (note the promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master HAF 932 -160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Caviar Black 500GB -60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HP DVD burner -20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler -32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus 24" 2ms monitor -210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That puts you at $1250 before shipping.

This will let you:

-Plug in a second 5850 for extreme graphics... far stronger than you were planning

-Overclock easily with an unlocked CPU, although it's going to be very strong at stock speeds.

-Run the latest drives and USB devices because of the technology on the motherboard.

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November 10, 2010 10:26:23 AM

Man you are so wrong... Get a Spinpoint F3 1TB, I dont know whod recommend a Caviar from WD over the spinpoint
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November 10, 2010 11:30:35 AM

Proximon said:
OK then, let's start with the right base. You do not need Dual X16 PCI-E slots.

AMD Black Edition X4 970 3.5Ghz and a 5850 -386
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Asus 890GX board (with SATA 3 and USB 3) and Win 7 64-bit -220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.skill DDR3 1333 CL8 4GB -70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec TP-650 PSU -90 (note the promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master HAF 932 -160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Caviar Black 500GB -60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HP DVD burner -20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler -32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Asus 24" 2ms monitor -210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That puts you at $1250 before shipping.

This will let you:

-Plug in a second 5850 for extreme graphics... far stronger than you were planning

-Overclock easily with an unlocked CPU, although it's going to be very strong at stock speeds.

-Run the latest drives and USB devices because of the technology on the motherboard.


1stly, The 970BE is a waste of $. Get the 955BE and raise the multiplier 2 and your right there at 970 speeds. (thats why the multiplier is unlocked).

I 2nd reaper to go with the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb over the WD black.
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November 10, 2010 2:37:41 PM

Are MSI boards reliable?
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November 10, 2010 4:12:11 PM

Darkravern said:
Are MSI boards reliable?


Gigabyte,asus, MSI top three imo.
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November 10, 2010 9:26:23 PM

Yeah. the only boards i want to get is gigabyte, but i was looking at other options too.
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