HELP ME OUT!!! im new to home making.

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Hello, Da name is ravern and im finally digging that 6 foot deep hole for my old computer lol.

This will be my first build ever in my life. I did a little research, tell me if it will work out... Here we go

Antec 902 :D.
Pretty spacious Casse, comes with 4 cool blue led fans. the one in the back for exhaust runs a little loud according to alot of reviews so i'm going to replace it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129058

Next up is the processor :O.
I heard i7 is the way to go for gaming now, so i looked into the 950, because its like the mid tier of it, and im sure it could OC very well. not sure though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211

Then the mobo. :O Imma get a gigabyte atx x58. I dont really need that much crap to go on it. plus it supports triple channel and SLI :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128456

is gigabyte reliable?!?

Then the GPU :O I heard ati isnt that great so im going with two of this card on SLI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125344

It is overclocked to pretty good speeds and stuffplus its cheap, so i can SLI to my happiness. *note* Im not familiar to anything of this new age performance stuff lol. I never OCed anything but i plan on trying.* lol


Memory... Since the board supports triple channel, which is good? lol is it? i looked up a triple channel kit, imma get 6gb first, then probably buy another 6 more gb later on lol.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145236

i heard corsair is the only name to trust in Memory aswell so these were perfect i guess.


Next up... I wanna OC my i7, so i guess i need more coooling, so i was going to install 1 120mm case fan to the window of the case, then replace the exhaust one that comes with it, turn it into a intake... and get 2 exhaust pci slot fans, then a cpu heat sink and fan. so here are all of these.

2x for exhaust.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119065

1 for window fan and 1 for replacing the exhaust fan so 2x.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153

Dropping this onto the i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233014

with this compound
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007

then this fan has better cfm then the one that comes with the heatsink soo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999613


okay, i think that should keep it cool? idk... what do you think?


Then there is the hard drive... all i need is my 20 gigs for music and like 10 gigs for games. and i should be happy.. so i dont need that much. i also heard western digital is the only name you should trust for HD's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098

lol. Then 2 cold cathodes because i like shiny stuff.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811994001

Then the monitor. I decided i wanted an hdmi monitor because the gts 450's came with a hdmi interface, plus this is a cheap screen with 2ms response time :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236083

For the OS, windows 7 64 bit professional.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

then the inputs.

I liked razors keyboards and mouses, so i got these...

Combo mouse and pad
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.540083

lycosa mirror edition keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114008

and headphones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153040

then this is a big question... HOW MUCH CAN I OC this machine??? and how much power do i need.

I just want a good Gaming pc for right now. something that doesnt have any fps lag at all. i just wanna run flash games perfectly and actual games like Combat arms, and left 4 dead on ultra quality without lag. 3.06 ghz is okay, i just wanna know how much i can oc this without it dying on me the next morning lol. and how much power should i need.

I wanna get to atleast 3.8 ghz if not 4.0 ghz. but um someone told me that this psu should support me

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182067
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should i do a different cooling setup?

Will this even work together?

will all the blue leds heat my system up?

can i even OC this thing to 3.6ghz?

is this a good build for what i want it to handle?

here are reqs


MINIMUM
Windows 2000
Pentium 3 - 1GHz+
256Mb RAM
GeForce 2 MX
Version 9.0C or later
3.2 Gb HD space
Cable/DSL


RECOMMENDED
Windows XP or better
Pentium 4 - 2.4GHz+
512Mb RAM
GeForce FX 5600 or better
Version 9.0C or later
3.2 Gb HD space.
Cable/DSL



is 6gb of ram adequate?


and does this thing read too? or only write?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135221



 
Just get a HAF and don't worry about the extra fans and exhausts:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213

Spend the money on a better CPU cooler instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835154011

review
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/tuniq_tower_120_extreme/

You are spending all your money on CPU and platform when you should be spending more on video cards. That's where your performance comes from first.

You want to learn to overclock but you don't know how yet... do you really want to gamble with all that expense?

THIS processor is easy to overclock and costs just a bit more, but it goes on a less expensive motherboard and only needs dual-channel RAM, so you save money:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116368

Board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409&cm_re=lga_1156_motherboard-_-13-128-409-_-Product

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231278&cm_re=DDR3_4GB-_-20-231-278-_-Product
Yes, 4GB is all you need.

WD is indeed a good choice but get a faster one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320&cm_re=caviar_black-_-22-136-320-_-Product

Finally, step up to a GTX 460 or two
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333

 

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For the graphics card. The gigabyte gts 450 has more clocked core and memory then even the higher end cards on neweggs. but it is overclocked. is over clocking memory hard??? or what? could like a GTX 480 out clock that card if i did it right? also the 450 comes autoclocked so i dont have to worry about messing up. whats more important core clock or the number of stream processing cores?
 

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and my budget.. is like 1,600 and less. i went with this setup because i gained a good MOBO for expansion in the future and already sli functional.

but right now im re everything with AMD parts and it seems 100x cheaper with better GHZ and stuff. idk o-o. now i kinda wanna stay super good gaming rigg for like 1000.
 
Stop looking at marketing numbers and start looking at benchmarks.

http://www.it-review.net/article/hardware/gpu/Gigabyte_GTS_450_OC2_review&5

That shows the 768MB GTX 460 out in front by a good bit... It starts about $10 more than your GPU choice. The 1GB version would be even stronger.

If you want to stay at $1000 you are going to need to make compromises, especially with the CPU.

A good gaming rig with monitor and OS included for $1000 is going to mean AMD, not Intel.
 

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my bad didn't see him say nvm $1000 at the end.

if he only has 1k, he shouldn't be wasting $ on some blue glow sticks.
 

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i just want something solid.. something i can keep building on. SLI would be great but not reeded right now. something with dual x16 pci-e would be awesome because i could SLI in the future without a mobo upgrade... idk i just want something solid and looks awesome. but cheap :p
 

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and right now im willing to spend up to like 1,600 right now, but it would be cool if i didnt have to spend it all right now. something like 1,000 for now, then keep building on it until it is super duper crazyness. I want the badass computer, but if i just got the badass Cpu and Mobo right now, i could go on clearance items and save up for bad ass graphics cards and memory, and other stuff like that.
 
OK then, let's start with the right base. You do not need Dual X16 PCI-E slots.

AMD Black Edition X4 970 3.5Ghz and a 5850 -386
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.544413

Asus 890GX board (with SATA 3 and USB 3) and Win 7 64-bit -220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552626

G.skill DDR3 1333 CL8 4GB -70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180&cm_re=DDR_3_1333_4GB-_-20-231-180-_-Product

Antec TP-650 PSU -90 (note the promo code)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021&Tpk=TP-650

Cooler Master HAF 932 -160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213&cm_re=HAF-_-11-119-213-_-Product

Caviar Black 500GB -60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320&cm_re=caviar_black-_-22-136-320-_-Product

HP DVD burner -20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140050

CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler -32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Asus 24" 2ms monitor -210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

That puts you at $1250 before shipping.

This will let you:

-Plug in a second 5850 for extreme graphics... far stronger than you were planning

-Overclock easily with an unlocked CPU, although it's going to be very strong at stock speeds.

-Run the latest drives and USB devices because of the technology on the motherboard.

 

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1stly, The 970BE is a waste of $. Get the 955BE and raise the multiplier 2 and your right there at 970 speeds. (thats why the multiplier is unlocked).

I 2nd reaper to go with the samsung spinpoint f3 1tb over the WD black.