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5770 1GB vs 5830 1GB vs GTX 460 768 MB

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September 20, 2010 4:10:12 PM

Hi guys!

I am sad to say that my EVGA 8800 GT SC ed. has died :( 
But it is time to move on.
I`ve been searching the market online and i found these 4 great options and I hope you could help me decide which one I should get

Note: I live in Romania, so prices may not be the same as in North America and the rest of Europe, etc.

I have currently have:
22" 1680x1050 single monitor
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500@ 3.33GHz
4 GB of Ram@ 800MHz
320 GB 7200RPM, 16MB, WD HDD


These are the options:
HIS HD 5770 Fan 1GB (128bit) GDDR5 PCIe - 196$
http://www.hisdigital.com/gb/product2-487.shtml

GeForce® GTX 460 (768M GDDR5) - 197$
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1339

SAPPHIRE HD5830 1GB GDDR5 PCIE - 205$
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?psn=0...

MSI ATI Radeon HD 5770, PCI-E, 1GB DDR5, 128biti (not the seaweed version) - 206$
http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=13...


I posted these VC`s because I INTEND TOM OVERCLOCK them, and I read that some are better when overclocked than a more expensive overclocked other card (OC 5770 > OC 5830 - just what I read on some sites and forums)

I play my games at 1680x1050 and pref. at the highest DX11 settings

And one last thing: do the 'Seaweed` type cooler keep the GPU at lower temperatures than the normal full case videocard version, thus making it a better overcloking VC?

Thank you :D 
a b U Graphics card
September 20, 2010 4:20:23 PM

Weird, did you know you could get a 5770 that's alot cheaper then the ones you mentioned from directly on their site?
Vapor-x 5770
-snip-

Nearly 200$ for a 5770 would never be worth it.
a b U Graphics card
September 20, 2010 4:27:40 PM

A gtx 460 is easily the best.
A 5770 is stock at 850, even o/c to 950 is not as fast as a stock 5830,close
A 5830 is stock at 800 even o/c say to 930 its not as fast as a 5850@725, it can come close.
A gtx 460 depending on the model you get is anywhere from 675 to 820 stock.
At 820 its as fast as a 5850@725, if you can get it to 900 its about the same gpu power as a stock gtx 470.

The only video card you didn't ask about is the 5850. Its also a o/c very well like the gtx 460.
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September 20, 2010 4:32:05 PM

dalta centauri said:
Weird, did you know you could get a 5770 that's alot cheaper then the ones you mentioned from directly on their site?
Vapor-x 5770
-snip-

Nearly 200$ for a 5770 would never be worth it.


Sadly, a costs Vapor-x 5770 215.02$ in my country, at the cheapest :( 
a b U Graphics card
September 20, 2010 4:34:04 PM

logiman said:
Sadly, a costs Vapor-x 5770 215.02$ in my country, at the cheapest :( 

Saw the Country part...a tad upset how it cost me 140$ through a combo deal and you have to pay over 200$.
a b U Graphics card
September 20, 2010 5:13:54 PM

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EVGA 8800 GT SC ed. has died
But it is time to move on.]I am sad to say that my EVGA 8800 GT SC ed. has died
But it is time to move on.
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wouldn't hurt if you'll check the warranty on it.

edit: if anything, get the 460.
September 20, 2010 5:24:27 PM

wh3resmycar said:
wouldn't hurt if you'll check the warranty on it.

edit: if anything, get the 460.


2 years warranty, broke suddenly after 2 years of no problems.
The real problem is that I have to send it to Germany or Italy (nearest) to get it fixed for free by EVGA (life-time warranty), but i have to pay alot for the international transport and it would also take alot of time (2 weeks min.)
a c 235 U Graphics card
September 20, 2010 5:57:21 PM

well the good news is the GTX460 is the easily the best card you listed and basically the cheapest
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 2:46:27 PM

The GTX460 w/768MB is a dog.
Get the 460 w/1024MB it's a whole different vidcard!
With 768MB it's like a HD5750.
But with 1024MB it beats a 5770/5830 :) 
There is big difference, more than just the memory is different.
Regards
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 2:52:22 PM

The_OGS said:
The GTX460 w/768MB is a dog.
Get the 460 w/1024MB it's a whole different vidcard!
With 768MB it's like a HD5750.
But with 1024MB it beats a 5770/5830 :) 
There is big difference, more than just the memory is different.
Regards

This statement is somewhat true, although the 768mb is just as good and if not better than a 5770.
All these cards are perfect for your resolution though, as it should play games maxed out.
So go with the 460 as it's about the same price(well, actually 20-30$ less then what you have to pay) and beats the 5770 at times.
a c 235 U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 3:28:16 PM

The_OGS said:
The GTX460 w/768MB is a dog.
Get the 460 w/1024MB it's a whole different vidcard!
With 768MB it's like a HD5750.
But with 1024MB it beats a 5770/5830 :) 
There is big difference, more than just the memory is different.
Regards


the drivel you post is all together idiotic. you stated graphics cards are 1 1/2" wide in previous post
now you state the GTX 460 768mb compares to the ATI 5750??? :pfff: 



leave the boards and rid us of your stupidity!
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 3:47:12 PM

The_OGS has copy and pasted that same bad post about the gtx 460-768 card in two threads now, its wrong and bad information. He needs to back up his b/s, guru 3d did a sli 460-768 article at launch and it almost compete with the 5970.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-revie...
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 4:47:18 PM

No brainer - of that group the GTX 460.
September 21, 2010 5:47:16 PM

I have a 5750, and there should be an Asus CuCore GTX 460 768m on my front porch right now, going to test it tonight so I'll post some benches for you tonight or tomorrow. At any rate, the 460 smacks the 5750 and 5770 around like a little girl, and almost always tops the 5830.
a c 235 U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 6:08:21 PM

these where my numbers when I upgraded from an OC GTS 250 to an OC GTX 460 768 (both at factory OC).

DX10 min/max/avg FPS

Crysis Warhead 1680 x1050res 2xAA
GTS250 11/32/24
GTX460 26/49/39

STALKER Call of Pripyat 1680x1050res max video setting
GTS250 42/75/63
GTX460 56/105/77

Resident Evil 5 1680x1050res 8xAA
GTS250 avg 33FPS
GTX460 avg 68FPS
a b U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 6:57:38 PM

Andon48 said:
I have a 5750, and there should be an Asus CuCore GTX 460 768m on my front porch right now, going to test it tonight so I'll post some benches for you tonight or tomorrow. At any rate, the 460 smacks the 5750 and nudges the 5770 around like a little girl, and almost always tops the 5830.

Corrected slightly so that it sounds like you know how powerful the 460 is.
Yes, far faster then a 5750, but it still competes with the 5770 and therefor it only just passes the 5770 in performance.

Still get the 460, as the 5770 is normally worth 140$ where the 460 is worth 160$ and youd be getting a fair price.
a c 235 U Graphics card
September 21, 2010 7:13:56 PM

both GTX 460 compete against the ATI 5830

show me one benchmark the ATI 5770 can compete with a GTX 460? even in Crysis where ATI has the better drivers the GTX 460 768 has 30% increase in FPS!
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU/88

a b U Graphics card
September 22, 2010 12:15:22 PM

Left4Dead2
:Trollface:
Oh, and apparently STALKER.

You want to argue then you're at the wrong thread~
I said the 5770 isn't worth it as their normally priced at 130-150$ while a 460 is closer to the price that he's actually paying.

Crysis, the game with Nvidia and Intel stamped on it? Oh and about drivers, ATI bogged up again with 10.9.
September 22, 2010 12:53:16 PM

Okay, I upgraded last night, and wow. the 460 is awesome. Here are a couple of benches I have done so far. Newest Nvidia drivers, and CCC 10.8

HD 5750- 710/1160

Furmark 800x600 extreme burning mode-Avg. 42 FPS

3DMark Vantage default setting - Overall-8558, GPU Score-7926


GTX 460 768m- 675/1350

Furmark 800x600 extreme burning mode-Avg. 61 FPS

3DMark Vantage default setting - Overall-14430, GPU Score-11927

I haven't done any more benchmarks yet, but games run amazing, faster than my brother in law's overclocked 5770 (tested in the same system). I can run Just Cause 2 with everything maxed out, x16 AF, x2 AA and it never dips below 45 frames. Crysis Warhead on enthusiast, solid 60 frames. This is @ 1440X900 by the way. I haven't tried AVP yet, as they say that's one game that is hurt by the crippled memory bus. I don't like Nvidia as a company, I think they play dirty but I have to hand it to them, they made a decent Fermi card and priced it reasonably.
a b U Graphics card
September 22, 2010 1:22:07 PM

Youve done 1440x900 with enthusiast setting and 4xaa?
September 22, 2010 1:38:53 PM

dalta centauri said:
Youve done 1440x900 with enthusiast setting and 4xaa?


No, I haven't tried it. I just tried it with no AA on Enthusiast with Vsync before I went to bed and it was keeping a solid 60 fps. I'll bet it can do at least 2x though, I won't get my hopes up for 4x.
a b U Graphics card
September 22, 2010 2:48:09 PM

Andon48 said:
No, I haven't tried it. I just tried it with no AA on Enthusiast with Vsync before I went to bed and it was keeping a solid 60 fps. I'll bet it can do at least 2x though, I won't get my hopes up for 4x.

Well I got decent framerate with my 5770 on crysis at 4xaa, when I mean decent I mean it was constantly in the mid to late 30's, a few 40's.
Went to 1680x1050 and it went downhill, like low 20's.

Anyone know why I get 40-53fps on max settings 8xaa on BFBC2, but when I try and record anything with Fraps it goes down to the 18's and crashes? I also noticed that game feels rather poor when at anything lower than 30fps.
I thought they fixed problems with the game with 3.1.2 yet I still get problems on the latest version.
Yes, I have lowered the settings and tried recording...
a c 271 U Graphics card
November 21, 2010 12:22:21 PM

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