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February 6, 2011 5:01:03 PM

Hello I am wanting to upgrade my mobo ,
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...


I am wanting to upgrade my processor from an AMD Athlon II x2 215 to a AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad Core ...
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


But i see the processor I'm wanting isnt included with a fan and I am wondering if the one already inlcuded in my machine will work. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...
The Quad core is 95W and IS compatible with my mobo but I am confuse in what 65nm is ..


All I really do is play sims 3 on high setting but lately its being a douche to me. My GPU is a Nvidia 210 512mb I usually get a 15fps .. :( 
I am also wondering if its not just the processor thats dual core but the GPU I've installed isnt enough .. said on http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,685777/The-Sims-3-CP...


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February 6, 2011 5:32:25 PM

luiGio1 said:
Hello I am wanting to upgrade my mobo ,
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...


I am wanting to upgrade my processor from an AMD Athlon II x2 215 to a AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad Core ...
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

But i see the processor I'm wanting isnt included with a fan and I am wondering if the one already inlcuded in my machine will work. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...
The Quad core is 95W and IS compatible with my mobo but I am confuse in what 65nm is ..


All I really do is play sims 3 on high setting but lately its being a douche to me. My GPU is a Nvidia 210 512mb I usually get a 15fps .. :( 
I am also wondering if its not just the processor thats dual core but the GPU I've installed isnt enough .. said on http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,685777/The-Sims-3-CP...


Pl


I would stick with your current CPU and upgrade the GPU. The GeForce G210 is a bottom-end GPU and is almost certainly what's causing your low framerate. I'd suggest something like a Radeon HD 5670 or a GeForce GT240, since your power supply likely doesn't have PCI Express power connectors, nor can it provide a whole lot of power even if you used some Molex-to-PCIe adapters.

The Phenom X4 you listed is a fairly old chip and while it might be a little faster than your Athlon II X2, I wouldn't pay $60 for it. I'd spend a little more and get a much faster Phenom II or Athlon II X3 or X4 over an Phenom X4. Figure that the Phenom X4 performs roughly like an Athlon II X4 if they have the same clock speed, and a Phenom II X4 performs 10% or so better. You can use the heatsink from the Athlon II with any 95-watt chip as AMD uses the same heatsink for all of its 95-watt-and-under CPUs if I remember correctly.

"65 nm" refers to the size of the transistors in the Phenom X4. The Athlon II you already have is newer and has smaller 45 nm transistors. Generally smaller transistors are better since you can put more transistors on a piece of silicon if the transistors are smaller, plus you can clock them higher in most cases. That is why the Phenom IIs and Athlon IIs can run at much higher clock speeds at the same wattages as the original Phenoms- the transistors are smaller. The extra L3 cache in the Phenom II X4 is also a by-product of the smaller transistors as well, and that boosts performance.
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