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February 6, 2011 8:01:31 PM

According to Fudzilla, they claim that Intel Sandy Bridge CPU will release a 6 core or 8 core enthusiast CPU Q3 2011. Some are claiming that LGA 2011 will be released in 2012 but there are many report of the socket being releases by Q3 or Q4 2011. However, there are many sites claiming that there will be an enthusiast Sandy Bridge based CPU that will be at least 6 cores and most likely an 8 core option as well. If LGA 2011 wont be released until 2012 will the this Enthusiast CPU this year be on the LGA 1155 or 1366 socket. Thanks

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February 6, 2011 8:26:47 PM

Everything mentioned up to this point indicates a Q3-Q4 2011 release of the LGA2011 socket and the Sandy Bridge-E CPUs for LGA2011.
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February 7, 2011 12:56:46 AM

Have yet to see anything from Intel except a Q3 release for LGA 2011 (Sandy Bridge - EN). However, there is no mention of when LGA 1356 (Sandy Bridge - EP) will hit which is supposed to be the successor to LGA 1366 while LGA 2011 is set to become something else entirley.
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February 7, 2011 12:59:07 AM

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Only think the 980x is top dog in is being overpriced


Only people who can't afford one say such things. :p 
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February 7, 2011 1:01:22 AM

jimmysmitty said:
Have yet to see anything from Intel except a Q3 release for LGA 2011 (Sandy Bridge - EN). However, there is no mention of when LGA 1356 (Sandy Bridge - EP) will hit which is supposed to be the successor to LGA 1366 while LGA 2011 is set to become something else entirley.


hmm......

i thought i heard tha both lga 1356 and 2011 was suppose to be the successor to lga 1336. Although from the info i know about both sockets, there isn't much of a difference between them..

Guess we'll know more when release gets near. [:bilbat:1]
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February 7, 2011 1:12:42 AM

Original anticipated date was June - September .... but as Intel retools to fix SB, my guess is there will be a delay while they get their house in order.
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February 7, 2011 1:21:03 AM

The idea is 2011 in 2011.
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February 7, 2011 12:44:11 PM

As psycho sad.

Last thing I heard was 1356 was the enthusiast platform and 2011 was for servers, but 1356 has now been scrapped and 2011 will be the enthusiast successor to 1366 too.
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February 7, 2011 1:45:11 PM

Yeah, I think Intel realized that having THREE sockets at the same time would be really messy.
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February 7, 2011 1:56:10 PM

jprahman said:
Yeah, I think Intel realized that having THREE sockets at the same time would be really messy.


If 2011 was server-only then no, not really. BUT given that the top-end enthusiasts are dropping Xeons into their 1366 boards, and EVGA's SR-2 brings dual sockets to the OC and benching crowd I guess Intel knows in advance we'd all be heading towards 2011 anyway.

In any case, yes it was a good call from Intel (although I'm intrigued as to how this quad-channel RAM is going to work - 1 channel per slot, isn't it?).
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February 7, 2011 1:56:17 PM

An "enthusiast" model would likely be one with a mobo with just Sata 3 perhaps?

At present many are "unenthusiastic" about a stuck transistor on the SATA2 port on the chipset ... though the news about this on tech sites seems noticeably hushed.

I'd be lived if it was me stuck in this situation.

Though the cognitive dissonance can easily be reduced when you consider how well they perform.

Not quite as bad as FDiv (potentially) or or the AMD TLB bug (crippling).

I might have to go to the dark side myself.

:) 

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February 7, 2011 5:28:50 PM

...NO!

well, with this SATA bug, Intel may lag a bit...maybe like .05% in their resources and shares.
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February 7, 2011 11:00:42 PM

The only people who wont get an Intel 2600K chip are AMD fan-boys...as what psycho said.
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February 8, 2011 3:16:53 AM

warmon6 said:
hmm......

i thought i heard tha both lga 1356 and 2011 was suppose to be the successor to lga 1336. Although from the info i know about both sockets, there isn't much of a difference between them..

Guess we'll know more when release gets near. [:bilbat:1]


From what I read a bit ago was that LGA1356 was enthusiast, like LGA1366. But there were big differences between 1356 and 2011. 1356 runs on DMI 2.0, triple channel DDR3 has 36 PCIe 2.0 lanes and a slew of other things. 2011 however is geared towards workstations and servers running on 2 QPI links, quad channel DDR3, 40 PCIe lanes (32 PCie 3.0 and 8 PCIe 2.0) as well as a few other changes.

But if Psycho is right then its only 2011 we have to look towards. Althought that would seem weird since I would understand LGA1356 for enthusiasts and LGA2011 for the other workstations and servers.

JackNaylorPE said:
Original anticipated date was June - September .... but as Intel retools to fix SB, my guess is there will be a delay while they get their house in order.


There is no issue with SB. Its with the Cougar Point (H67/P67) chipset only. Z68 and X68 has no issues.
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February 8, 2011 3:22:01 AM

..as for what we know. I hope Intel retests the 68 series chipsets to see if IT has any problems as well. Last thing Intel needs is to spend another 700 million and have angry enthusiasts on their tail.
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February 8, 2011 6:18:41 AM

dogman_1234 said:
The only people who wont get an Intel 2600K chip are AMD fan-boys...as what psycho said.

Well until Intel sort out their chipsets, that decision is reasonable enough, although they would have still followed that direction even if the chipsets were good from the start.

What a strange thing it is to punish one's self for overblown and grossly distorted "moral reasons".
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February 8, 2011 8:54:49 AM

Yes the fanboi comments are not needed.

Get back to your A+ studies young man !!
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February 8, 2011 12:43:40 PM

Can do Commander!
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February 8, 2011 12:44:47 PM

Reynod said:
Yes the fanboi comments are not needed.

Get back to your A+ studies young man !!



Sorry, i just was putting emphasis on the fact that the loyalty to AMD for some is greater than trying to get the i7 2600K chip...even with the SATA bug.
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February 8, 2011 8:55:50 PM

jimmysmitty said:
From what I read a bit ago was that LGA1356 was enthusiast, like LGA1366. But there were big differences between 1356 and 2011. 1356 runs on DMI 2.0, triple channel DDR3 has 36 PCIe 2.0 lanes and a slew of other things. 2011 however is geared towards workstations and servers running on 2 QPI links, quad channel DDR3, 40 PCIe lanes (32 PCie 3.0 and 8 PCIe 2.0) as well as a few other changes.

But if Psycho is right then its only 2011 we have to look towards. Althought that would seem weird since I would understand LGA1356 for enthusiasts and LGA2011 for the other workstations and servers.



There is no issue with SB. Its with the Cougar Point (H67/P67) chipset only. Z68 and X68 has no issues.


Looks like i knew less about the lga 1356 than i thought. :heink: 

guess that won't matter anyways if it is true that there only LGA 2011 coming up.
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February 8, 2011 10:38:57 PM

I thought Intel dropped 1356? LGA 2011 was the standard.
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February 9, 2011 1:02:09 AM

dogman_1234 said:
I thought Intel dropped 1356? LGA 2011 was the standard.


Well i guess im just in the past as i didn't know 1356 was dropped. :whistle: 
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February 9, 2011 3:35:51 AM

warmon6 said:
Well i guess im just in the past as i didn't know 1356 was dropped. :whistle: 


I wasn't sure it was dropped either but I gues it is except this says its still coming:

http://techbuzzblog.com/gadgets/2011/02/both-lga-1356-a...

And its dated Feb 5 2011.

Both are said to use Patsburg (X68 I would guess) and here is whats more interesting:

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The number of memory modules per slot supported is also different, as LGA-1356 accepts only two sticks per channel while its older brother allows a maximum of three DIMMs to be installed on each of the quad channels available.


So it looks like not only will LGA 2011 offer quad channel DDR3 but it will be three dimms per channel which would mean a total of 12 slots and if each is populated with 4GB sticks it would be 48GB per mobo.

If they can support 8GB sticks each it would be pushing 96GB of DDR3. Dear God you could actually install Windows 7 onto a RAM drive with even just 48GB.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/02/03/intels-romley-platfo...

Another article confims the same.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Both-LGA-1356-and-LGA-20...

http://quazen.com/shopping/consumer-electronics/both-lg...

If Intel dropped LGA 1356, I can't find any news about it being dropped but a lot of sites seem to think that its still coming. I think its a rumor that might stem from here:

http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1383...

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LGA 1356 seems canceled, LGA 2011 is shifted to Q4 2011 (ivy ?)...
i think, SB is unsatisfactory at intel too, but of course they can´t tell it loudly


Short of the chipset bug, I am pretty sure that Intel is very happy with Sandy bridge. Unless there is a AMD CPU out in the wild that no one knows about that is demolishing SB in performance and efficiency that we don't know about....

The most results I get for LGA 1356 being cancelled is maybe 3. The rest are about 1356 flights being cancelled out of LaGuardia. I don't think its been cancelled. I think it was a runmor started by someone who might not like Intel very much....
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February 9, 2011 3:46:30 AM

True. One can never know.

I never realized 2011 would be capable of Quad Channel. I knew it was coming around, just no this early? Do we really need Q-Chan now? We are building basic hard, rock solid processors not NASA Supercomputers developed by IBM.
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February 10, 2011 1:21:49 AM

Both Workstations and servers need quad channel. It will boost performance in the areas that need the large amounts of memory and love memory bandwidth by quite a bit, especially those heavy rendering ones.

But for the consumer desktop, no. Dual channel is still enough really.
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February 10, 2011 2:57:40 AM

^Intel was saying that they are expecting to move to DDR4 in 2012 so maybe we will see Ivy Bridge CPUs with DDR4 support.
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February 10, 2011 6:28:03 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
Only people who can't afford one say such things. :p 


IIRC Psycho had a 980X at one time.

Hell I think Psycho has had every CPU ever made, at one time or another :D ..
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February 10, 2011 7:01:53 PM

jimmysmitty said:
If Intel dropped LGA 1356, I can't find any news about it being dropped but a lot of sites seem to think that its still coming. I think its a rumor that might stem from here:

http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1383...

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LGA 1356 seems canceled, LGA 2011 is shifted to Q4 2011 (ivy ?)...
i think, SB is unsatisfactory at intel too, but of course they can´t tell it loudly


Short of the chipset bug, I am pretty sure that Intel is very happy with Sandy bridge. Unless there is a AMD CPU out in the wild that no one knows about that is demolishing SB in performance and efficiency that we don't know about....

The most results I get for LGA 1356 being cancelled is maybe 3. The rest are about 1356 flights being cancelled out of LaGuardia. I don't think its been cancelled. I think it was a runmor started by someone who might not like Intel very much....


LOL - I read that AMDZone thread - looks like Baron and the rest are writing eulogy's for Intel in server and desktop already, before Bulldozer even debuts. I'm surprised none of them made an "Intel BK by Qxxx" prediction..
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February 19, 2011 11:36:07 PM

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April 23, 2011 3:40:00 AM

Sadly it looks like The enthusiast CPU is going to be a 6 core. Not only that knowing Intel its going to be pricing this CPU at 1000 U.S Dollars, its going to be less cores then AMD.

Looks like I am going to build an AMD 8 core CPU. Also, with its new architecture, AMD will be way better than it used to be. Moreover, AMD will probably charge 300-400 U.S dollars compared to Intel's 1000 dollars.

Plus it includes 2 extra cores.

Here is the link to Intel's dumb move http://www.overclockers.com/intel-roadmap-leaked-sandy-...

Intel is very disappointing. AMD here I come.
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April 23, 2011 9:09:43 AM

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