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Phenom II X4 965 BE vs i3-560

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February 6, 2011 10:18:13 PM

I'm helping my friend build a new gaming PC and I don't know which he should go with:

1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4ghz Quad Core

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2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Core i3-560 Clarkdale 3.33GHz Dual Core


There aren't a lot of benchmarks for either... just similar models like the 955, or the i3-550

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February 7, 2011 2:02:17 AM

965 is better then a i3 that simple. Also overclocks much higher with decent aftermarket cooling.
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February 7, 2011 2:23:29 AM

Actually an i3 has higher OC headroom, up to 4.3-4.5GHz with an aftermarket cooler compared to about 4GHz for the Phenom II X4 965. However, the two additional cores means that the Phenom II X4 965 will probably be faster though, unless you're running an application that doesn't use more than two cores.
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February 7, 2011 2:26:58 AM

Yeah i seen a benchmark the i3 beats the phenom. dual cores are out dated
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February 7, 2011 4:15:06 AM

cia24 said:
Yeah i seen a benchmark the i3 beats the phenom. dual cores are out dated

You just contradicted yourself... Now I'm confused. Did you just say it backwards on accident?
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February 7, 2011 4:38:38 AM

I would definitely go with the quad core. Intel is about 40% better on per core performance with hyperthreading accounting for 20% of that, but there are many programs that use quad cores now. The programs that don't use a quad will most likely not need all the speed the dual cores will provide compared to the Phenom.

I would also suggest getting the 955 instead of the 965 since it's slightly cheaper for almost the same proc, and it would be the same if you overclocked the 955 to the same level as the 965.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+Phen...

This is a synthetic benchmark, but it does show the 955(3.2ghz) beating the i5 680(basically the 560@3.6ghz, maybe more due to turbo boost) by about 10%. It also seems well optimized for hyperthreading, thus it probably is giving the i5 a slight boost compared to normal applications.

Right now I would just go with the max amount of cores you can get, since games will slowly use more cores.
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February 7, 2011 1:43:09 PM

the i3 is faster theb a stock but dual cores are outdated.
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March 18, 2011 9:04:25 PM

cia24 said:
Yeah i seen a benchmark the i3 beats the phenom. dual cores are out dated


actually the SB dual core competes and beats the phenom II 970 in most benchmarks. will probably be that way for another two years until new consoles come out.

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March 18, 2011 11:11:12 PM

ct1615 said:
actually the SB dual core competes and beats the phenom II 970 in most benchmarks. will probably be that way for another two years until new consoles come out.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/L/N/282011/original/AveragePerformance.png

This thread is over a month old, and was long gone until Joaco brought it back to life. Might want to check that next time.

BTW he was saying the i3 560 which is a westmere dual core which loses by ~5% on that graph. ;)  That would make the 965 about equal with the 560 until games start using more cpu power.
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March 19, 2011 7:55:07 AM

try and get 760 it beats phenom 2x6 at games
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