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February 7, 2011 1:22:22 AM

As soon as Crysis 2 comes out I want to upgrade my CPU and GPU. As for now I want to start with the CPU. I currently have an AMD Athlon X4 260 at 2.66 ghz, a GTS 250 GPU, and an ASUS M4A785-M motherboard. I was looking to get a Radeon HD 6950 or a Geforce GTX 570/580. I want to get a CPU that would be powerful enough to handle those GPU's and will not bottleneck them. My motherboard will support up to 125w for the CPU. Below are some links to some CPUs that I thought could do the job and I want you have to say about them;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you know of other AMD CPU's that might work please tell me. Also since my board only supports up 125w will I be able to oc with a 125w cpu and still have some head room. I am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance.

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February 7, 2011 1:56:15 AM

It seems that with time amd is getting a lot slower then Intel. If you want to stick with amd go with the 965 it overclocks very nicely with a good aftermarket cooler on it.
February 7, 2011 2:03:02 AM

The 965 will work fine. There is no need to OC because not many games if any utilize all four cores yet. I am running a 955 and a 5750 and can run everything maxed out with no problems.
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February 7, 2011 2:04:53 AM

xerxces said:
The 965 will work fine. There is no need to OC because not many games if any utilize all four cores yet. I am running a 955 and a 5750 and can run everything maxed out with no problems.


Everything i hope you are talking about just wow. Games that actually use real graphics that card will dog in. Also you must have aa off--in raids that card will run at about 20 fps in wow or less at 1920x1080 maybe get 20 at 1440x900
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February 7, 2011 2:22:21 AM

xerxces said:
The 965 will work fine. There is no need to OC because not many games if any utilize all four cores yet. I am running a 955 and a 5750 and can run everything maxed out with no problems.

OC'ing has absolutely nothing to do with having 4 cores. It will make each individual core run faster. This will matter for all games--especially single threaded ones made for one core only.

Also, a 5750 CANNOT run everything maxed out. Maybe you are playing old games (and not Crysis) or on a low resolution (lower than 1680x1050). I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but you were giving this guy completely incorrect information.
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February 7, 2011 2:23:54 AM

dalauder said:
OC'ing has absolutely nothing to do with having 4 cores. It will make each individual core run faster. This will matter for all games--especially single threaded ones made for one core only.

Also, a 5750 CANNOT run everything maxed out. Maybe you are playing old games (and not Crysis) or on a low resolution (lower than 1680x1050). I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but you were giving this guy completely incorrect information.



My setup can not run metro past 60fps on ultra settings, 5750 is slow........
February 7, 2011 2:40:41 AM

dalauder said:
OC'ing has absolutely nothing to do with having 4 cores. It will make each individual core run faster. This will matter for all games--especially single threaded ones made for one core only.

Also, a 5750 CANNOT run everything maxed out. Maybe you are playing old games (and not Crysis) or on a low resolution (lower than 1680x1050). I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but you were giving this guy completely incorrect information.


BO runs at about 110fps in 1080p on my 42in TV. Crysis runs about 45fps but I do ont really play it. I also play Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, and BFBC2 maxed out in 1080p and have zero hitches. The only game I have played with some hitches is crysis modded.
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February 7, 2011 2:41:01 AM

As far as I know (or can find online), the AMD Athlon X4 260 is not a real processor. Please right-click on My Computer and choose Properties to tell us what CPU you have. Here's what I think you should do:
1) Tell us what you have.
2) Tell us how much you're willing to spend.
We will assume you want the best gaming computer possible and give you suggestions. There is a good possibility we will recommend an entirely new build. The best setup is likely a new Phenon II 955 build with an HD 5850 waiting for a crossfire upgrade. Although I don't know your budget, so it might be better than a 5850. Also, what size monitor and resolution will you be gaming with? Do you plan on upgrading to multiple monitors down the road?
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February 7, 2011 2:41:45 AM

Metro 2033 you play that on low?
February 7, 2011 2:43:18 AM

I have not checked the fps in Metro becasue I have not need to thus far. It has run fine with no lag so I never checked it. Also, I run every game I play maxed out in 1080p. Never anything less.
February 7, 2011 2:52:19 AM

Yes, I have. I have no problems with it at all. I can run a fps test tomorrow to find out what exactly it is getting but I always play in 1080p. Would not have it any other way ; )
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February 7, 2011 2:53:22 AM

Thats impossible actually lmmfao this is epic. to think even 2 5750 could max out metro is a f***ing joke.
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February 7, 2011 3:07:51 AM

Quote:
well this guy tried to maxed it out with 2x5850

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/300334-15-metro-203...


1 5850 is better then 2 5750 in cf Prove my point better the op says he run metro 2033 at ultra/max settings at 1080p with 1 5750 with his setup its not possible.
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February 7, 2011 3:13:10 AM

I don't think the op knows what he is talking about at all. because nothing he has said so far makes any since a 5850 in crysis has a hard time with 23 fps at 1920x1080p.
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February 7, 2011 3:15:42 AM

Hey, if this guy's happy gaming with a 5750 at 18fps, maybe we should quit ragging on him. If he thinks he can play Metro 2033 now, all he'll do is realize he can't if we keep talking.
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February 7, 2011 3:17:53 AM

He says he has played it, it would freeze and light on fire on ultra settings.
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February 7, 2011 3:25:25 AM

Well, clearly he plays Metro 2033 on low. But like I said, if he thinks his Corolla is a Ferrari--let him be happy.
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February 7, 2011 3:26:30 AM

dalauder said:
Well, clearly he plays Metro 2033 on low. But like I said, if he thinks his Corolla is a Ferrari--let him be happy.


lol.
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February 7, 2011 3:48:57 AM

cia24 said:
I don't think the op knows what he is talking about at all. because nothing he has said so far makes any since a 5850 in crysis has a hard time with 23 fps at 1920x1080p.


Warhead never dips below 23 with my 5770 dx10 1080 enthusiast, so hes doing something wrong.
February 7, 2011 9:22:46 AM

dalauder said:
As far as I know (or can find online), the AMD Athlon X4 260 is not a real processor. Please right-click on My Computer and choose Properties to tell us what CPU you have. Here's what I think you should do:
1) Tell us what you have.
2) Tell us how much you're willing to spend.
We will assume you want the best gaming computer possible and give you suggestions. There is a good possibility we will recommend an entirely new build. The best setup is likely a new Phenon II 955 build with an HD 5850 waiting for a crossfire upgrade. Although I don't know your budget, so it might be better than a 5850. Also, what size monitor and resolution will you be gaming with? Do you plan on upgrading to multiple monitors down the road?


Sorry I meant Athlon 620
I am willing to spend no more than $300 on a CPU and $500 on a GPU
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February 7, 2011 10:32:09 AM

If you have 4 gigs of RAM, then I think all you need to do is overclock your existing processor. There's a chance the chipset on your motherboard could bottleneck a top end video card--I dunno. If you can pull 3.2GHz out of that processor, you should be fine using a single GTX 570 at 1920x1080 resolution.

If you have $800 you want to spend, then try to get Why_Me's attention and he'll do the most you can do with your money. Maybe dual 6950's?
February 7, 2011 7:34:52 PM

dalauder said:
If you have 4 gigs of RAM, then I think all you need to do is overclock your existing processor. There's a chance the chipset on your motherboard could bottleneck a top end video card--I dunno. If you can pull 3.2GHz out of that processor, you should be fine using a single GTX 570 at 1920x1080 resolution.

If you have $800 you want to spend, then try to get Why_Me's attention and he'll do the most you can do with your money. Maybe dual 6950's?


I did already oc that processor got it to 2.9, and I forget to say but I do have a water cooling setup if that help with the choosing of a CPU and I have 6 gigs of DDR2 ram
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February 8, 2011 7:30:29 PM

Hmmm...well that processor should get well over 3.0GHz--3.5GHz or higher is not uncommon, but your mobo may be limiting. Make sure to set your voltages Manually or your motherboard may Auto set some much higher than recommended. Only increase voltages if necessary for stability. Also, make sure to decrease your HT link and your RAM speed while figuring out your max CPU OC while keeping an eye on temps.

What water cooling setup do you have? I'm guessing something similar to a Corsair H50? In that case, you can probably run your voltages higher than you can on air, but I'd look into that if I were you.

You should be good to go for just about any graphics card even at 2.9--you might be able to optimize that OC more. I'd get a 2GB 6950 and unlock it--that way if you upgrade to an AMD system after Bulldozer comes out, you can Crossfire down the road. Intel chipsets can handle SLI and Crossfire--which is a big deal in an upgrade if you get a GTX 570 to start out.

What PSU do you have? Because that could end up limiting your whole setup.
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February 8, 2011 9:39:14 PM

Oh, I also wanted to say that 6GB of RAM is never optimized on anything other than an i7-9XX system. Your RAM would perform faster if you just used 2x2GB of identical sticks in two slots of the same color. Install Memtest86+ on a USB stick if you'd like to see the numbers. This may also ease your overclocking.
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