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November 13, 2010 8:37:36 PM

So it is has been a few years since I have kept up on the latest hardware, my last build was 2006 and is still working well for what it is. I need something more powerful though since I use this machine not just for fun but also make my living on it. I have Photoshop, Illustrator or Lightroom running all the time for work (graphic design and photography). I also like to watch videos and play games (not a heavy gamer and have been out of that loop for awhile too - hoping to get back in).

I have spent the better part of a week reading up on the latest hardware and think I came up with a build that will be really good, fast, last me a long time and fun :)  I know it is impossible to build a machine that will be top of the line for many years, I am just looking to build some very powerful that will be top of the line for what I need it to be for a a few years (4-5 ideally).

So now onto the parts.
I was looking to stay under 1500 and was able to with this (about $1400 after rebates). I am going to be giving my current machine to a family member so I was unable to save any parts except the DVD burner, Network Card and Sound Card. I am going to run Windows 7 64-Bit (already purchased).

Also of note, I will NOT be over clocking anything and I WILL be using the stock fan from the processor.

CASE
Antec P183
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Used the previous model in my previous build and really liked it, so decided to stick with what I know and like


POWER SUPPLY
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PROCESSOR
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W
Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MOTHERBOARD
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MEMORY
(2 SETS, 12 GIGS TOTAL)
Crucial Ballistix 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
12 may be more than I need right now, but would rather buy it now then upgrading down the road. I have already budgeted for this amount of money to spend.


GRAPHICS CARD
EVGA 01G-P3-1465-AR GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seems to be a very good card from what I have read and reviews. Need input on this though.


HARD DRIVE (SSD FOR OS AND SOFTWARE)
G.SKILL Phoenix Pro Series FM-25S2S-120GBP2 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HARD DRIVE (STORAGE)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One last question: Are there any cables, adapter, etc I will need to complete this build? Will I need anything for the hard drives, case or motherboard that do not come already? This is where my not being up on all of this is not helping so hoping you can. Would hate to find out after unboxing everything that I need to order something else.

THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME! HOPING TO HIT ORDER THIS WEEKEND BUT AFRAID UNTIL I GET SOME FEEDBACK!! :-)
November 13, 2010 9:07:33 PM

whats your monitor resolution?
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November 13, 2010 9:14:26 PM

HeyImGodly said:
whats your monitor resolution?


Running dual monitors. My main monitor is 1920x1200, the secondary is 1280x1024. I *may* upgrade the main soon but still a few months away at least.

May I ask why, is there a problem with something I picked in regards to that?
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November 13, 2010 9:36:38 PM

You don't need 12 gigs of ram....

I'd get G.skill RAM... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 6 gigs....

another GPU if you can fit it, going higher then 1920X1200.... with one gpu isn't gunna end up well

Another thing, if you want this to last a while I'd spend some money on a larger PSU, you can upgrade grpahic cards, and it allows you to have it for another build, when the time comes.
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November 13, 2010 9:42:01 PM

^^ Specifically the gtx 465 isn't that great of a card. A single 460 would be better.
2xGTX 460 or 2x68xx would probably perform better.
maybe even the 5870 Eyfinity 6 edition.
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November 13, 2010 9:44:57 PM

^ yeah.... +1
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November 13, 2010 9:46:03 PM

Atotalnoob said:
You don't need 12 gigs of ram....

I'd get G.skill RAM... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 6 gigs....


Currently when I run Lightroom on dual monitors on my current machine (4 gigs of ram) it slows down a ton, so thought the extra would help. Would it be a help at all or just completely not needed and will show no improvement?

Atotalnoob said:
another GPU if you can fit it, going higher then 1920X1200.... with one gpu isn't gunna end up well


Why is that, asking because I honestly do not know and would like to learn while I can. The specs of this card say it goes up to 2560 x 1600 and handles dual monitors. My current monitor is great and as a photographer that is what I need, so unless something happens I am not looking to change right now anyway.

Atotalnoob said:
Another thing, if you want this to last a while I'd spend some money on a larger PSU, you can upgrade grpahic cards, and it allows you to have it for another build, when the time comes.


Any suggestion on how much larger I should go?



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November 13, 2010 9:47:52 PM

HeyImGodly said:
^^ Specifically the gtx 465 isn't that great of a card. A single 460 would be better.
2xGTX 460 or 2x68xx would probably perform better.
maybe even the 5870 Eyfinity 6 edition.


If I would to go with just a single card what would you suggest then? Keep in mind I am not a heavy gamer at all and while I do want to play some now it will not be what the machine is always going to be used for. Probably a bit of Call of Duty and the like here and there.
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November 13, 2010 9:53:29 PM

oh, if cod is all your going to play, you can get away with a 5770.....(unless you are hitting 2560X1600...)

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Why is that, asking because I honestly do not know and would like to learn while I can. The specs of this card say it goes up to 2560 x 1600 and handles dual monitors. My current monitor is great and as a photographer that is what I need, so unless something happens I am not looking to change right now anyway. [.quote] it will have low FPS...

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Any suggestion on how much larger I should go?
750 minimum, any higher is your choice...

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Currently when I run Lightroom on dual monitors on my current machine (4 gigs of ram) it slows down a ton, so thought the extra would help. Would it be a help at all or just completely not needed and will show no improvement?
the i7 can handle alot, I dunno your current specs, so I can't comment.
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November 13, 2010 9:57:15 PM

the specs say 2560 x 1600, but it never says if thats a single card. mainly you'd need a second card for gaming at that high of a resolution w/dual monitors in general.

and im just guesstimating, but atleast one like this you give you room to expand vv
it's also 80 Plis GOLD certified (saves you money :) 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 13, 2010 10:00:23 PM

So for a graphics card would this be the choice if I was going to only have one and staying at 1920x1200 on my main monitor? Gaming would only be on the main monitor anyway.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If there is a better card I should get I would love to know. Thanks for all the help so far!
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November 13, 2010 10:01:28 PM

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the specs say 2560 x 1600, but it never says if thats a single card.
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+1
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mainly you'd need a second card for gaming at that high of a resolution w/dual monitors in general.
and for Rendering at that res, and stuff like that.... also displaying pictures

Edit for not paying attention and posting my post half finished.... fail
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November 13, 2010 10:02:16 PM

adam533 said:
If I would to go with just a single card what would you suggest then? Keep in mind I am not a heavy gamer at all and while I do want to play some now it will not be what the machine is always going to be used for. Probably a bit of Call of Duty and the like here and there.


I'm thinking the 6870 or GTX 460 would do you fine
if you were to use multiple cards then
Sapphire 5770 Flex in CrossFire
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November 13, 2010 10:03:39 PM

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I'm thinking the 6870 or GTX 460 would do you fine
if you were to use multiple cards then
Sapphire 5770 Flex in CrossFire



+1, it seems you steal everything I was going to say.
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November 13, 2010 10:13:17 PM

Looks like this has the better reviews (GTX 460) but there are a couple of different versions listed. Should I go for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Planning on the 470 now after reading reviews and other comments. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also if I could ask one last question of you guys. Regarding what I asked earlier about needing anything else (cables, adapters, ect) is there anything I should plan on ordering now for any part of the build that I may not be familiar with? Not over clocking so I am assuming the fan that comes with the processor is enough and the fans that come with the case should be fine...correct?
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November 13, 2010 10:14:34 PM

Atotalnoob said:
You don't need 12 gigs of ram....

I'd get G.skill RAM... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 6 gigs....

another GPU if you can fit it, going higher then 1920X1200.... with one gpu isn't gunna end up well

Another thing, if you want this to last a while I'd spend some money on a larger PSU, you can upgrade grpahic cards, and it allows you to have it for another build, when the time comes.
Graphic design and rendering can take advantage of the extra RAM. Adam, I suggest two sets of this Corsair RAM. Runs 7-7-7-20 instead of 7-7-7-24, and it's cheaper.
I'm assuming you won't be using your second monitor while gaming? One graphics card would be fine, but I also don't recommend the GTX 465. For graphics design, I usually recommend Nvidia cards, but for gaming, I recommend ATI/AMD. In your case, I'd recommend Nvidia, but know that you'll be spending more to get address both uses. So deciding between the GTX 460 and GTX 470 (really your only options, IMO) depends on what games you'll be playing. Remember that you can upgrade in the future and run SLI cards. If just Call of Duty and the like, a 460 1GB will probably be sufficient. I'm assuming you'd only actually be gaming on the main monitor?
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November 13, 2010 10:21:38 PM

blackjellognomes said:
Graphic design and rendering can take advantage of the extra RAM. Adam, I suggest two sets of this Corsair RAM. Runs 7-7-7-20 instead of 7-7-7-24, and it's cheaper.
I'm assuming you won't be using your second monitor while gaming? One graphics card would be fine, but I also don't recommend the GTX 465. For graphics design, I usually recommend Nvidia cards, but for gaming, I recommend ATI/AMD. In your case, I'd recommend Nvidia, but know that you'll be spending more to get address both uses. So deciding between the GTX 460 and GTX 470 (really your only options, IMO) depends on what games you'll be playing. Remember that you can upgrade in the future and run SLI cards. If just Call of Duty and the like, a 460 1GB will probably be sufficient. I'm assuming you'd only actually be gaming on the main monitor?



Oh, more information - great! Very glad I decided to ask for help tonight, you guys are all great :) 

Second monitor will not be used for gaming - it is a lower end monitor I use when working for design stuff only. I mentioned in my previous post that from reviews the GTX 460 looked like a good option - just wast not sure I picked out the correct version (Newegg shows a couple versions). Forget that, decided to go with the 470 I think now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Regarding the RAM, appreciate that tip. I don't mind paying the extra for the crucial if it is a better product (I have always used crucial in the past so I immediately went to them). If the one you suggested will perform better than I will gladly switch to that.

Thanks!
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November 13, 2010 10:29:22 PM

Atotalnoob said:
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I'm thinking the 6870 or GTX 460 would do you fine
if you were to use multiple cards then
Sapphire 5770 Flex in CrossFire



+1, it seems you steal everything I was going to say.



haha yeah (:
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November 13, 2010 10:30:11 PM

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haha yeah (:
scene stealer =p
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November 13, 2010 10:31:36 PM

adam533 said:
Oh, more information - great! Very glad I decided to ask for help tonight, you guys are all great :) 

Second monitor will not be used for gaming - it is a lower end monitor I use when working for design stuff only. I mentioned in my previous post that from reviews the GTX 460 looked like a good option - just wast not sure I picked out the correct version (Newegg shows a couple versions).

Regarding the RAM, appreciate that tip. I don't mind paying the extra for the crucial if it is a better product (I have always used crucial in the past so I immediately went to them). If the one you suggested will perform better than I will gladly switch to that.

Thanks!
That GTX 460 looks like a great choice.
Corsair actually has a slightly better name in the industry, but it's like comparing Toyota and Honda; there really isn't much of a difference in terms of quality.
My last suggestion -- a quality 550W PSU can handle SLI 460s (at max load your system won't draw more than 450W), so I suggest this Antec. It's based on Seasonic's M12D design, so it'd one of the best PSUs on the market. Blargh nvm if you're going with the 470.
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November 13, 2010 10:31:50 PM

adam533 said:
Oh, more information - great! Very glad I decided to ask for help tonight, you guys are all great :) 

Second monitor will not be used for gaming - it is a lower end monitor I use when working for design stuff only. I mentioned in my previous post that from reviews the GTX 460 looked like a good option - just wast not sure I picked out the correct version (Newegg shows a couple versions). Forget that, decided to go with the 470 I think now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Regarding the RAM, appreciate that tip. I don't mind paying the extra for the crucial if it is a better product (I have always used crucial in the past so I immediately went to them). If the one you suggested will perform better than I will gladly switch to that.

Thanks!


I dont recommend a 470 unless its a retail card due to poor cooling and power management
the reference cards suck a** :p 
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November 13, 2010 10:35:19 PM

Okay, so based on the last two comments back to the GTX 460 :) 

Is there anything I am missing in regards to cables, adapters, etc that I will need to complete this. I know I asked this already but did not get an answer and just want to be sure. I built my last machine but had someone tell me what to buy so this is new to me.
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November 13, 2010 10:38:51 PM

maybe SATA cables... most of the things sohuld come with them... OEM I think sometimes leaves them out...
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November 13, 2010 10:40:19 PM

as long as nothing is OEM then everything should come with the cables. :D 
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November 13, 2010 10:41:25 PM

adam533 said:
Okay, so based on the last two comments back to the GTX 460 :) 

Is there anything I am missing in regards to cables, adapters, etc that I will need to complete this. I know I asked this already but did not get an answer and just want to be sure. I built my last machine but had someone tell me what to buy so this is new to me.
Oi, stop changing your mind! :pt1cable:  If you go with a 460, you'd want a 550W; if you go with a 470, you'd want a 750W. This is assuming that you'd consider SLI in the future and that you buy a quality PSU.
Um, you may need to buy an HDMI cable, if your monitor supports HDMI input.
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November 13, 2010 10:41:48 PM

Atotalnoob said:
maybe SATA cables... most of the things sohuld come with them... OEM I think sometimes leaves them out...



grrr... you beat me to the OEM part. >.<
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November 13, 2010 10:45:52 PM

adam533 said:
Which 460 card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$140 after rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$200 after rebate

Would I notice a difference if I spend the extra - no problem doing it if it is worth it.
Get the stock clocked EVGA 1GB version (your res will benefit from the extra graphics memory).
I recommend this over the SC version because you can OC the card yourself and the stock clocked one is not based on the reference design, which means it'll run cooler. Plus, at $20 less, you still get a free game.
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November 13, 2010 10:58:21 PM

I feel like I hit the jackpot tonight with all the great help I got in this thread (and so fast!) Thanks everybody.

So after your comments here is the final list if you can give it a quick once over. Motherboard and SSD seem like good picks?

Thanks again!! I am getting excited to order this now.

Changes from original post shown in BOLD

CASE
Antec P183
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129061
Used the previous model in my previous build and really liked it, so decided to stick with what I know and like


POWER SUPPLY
Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



PROCESSOR
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W
Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115211


MOTHERBOARD
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128423


MEMORY
(2 SETS, 12 GIGS TOTAL)
CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



GRAPHICS CARD
EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



HARD DRIVE (SSD FOR OS AND SOFTWARE)
G.SKILL Phoenix Pro Series FM-25S2S-120GBP2 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231378


HARD DRIVE (STORAGE)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
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November 13, 2010 11:08:28 PM

looks great :)  Happy buying/building :D 
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November 13, 2010 11:11:12 PM

One thing you do want to do before buying is to check for combos, like this one. $15 saved on parts you had picked out already! I'm sure there are others like it; do look around.
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November 13, 2010 11:13:13 PM

blackjellognomes said:
One thing you do want to do before buying is to check for combos, like this one. $15 saved on parts you had picked out already! I'm sure there are others like it; do look around.


Awesome, will do that tonight. Thanks for the tip!

Again to everybody who responded, you guys rock! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge, it really saved me on this!!!
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November 13, 2010 11:22:15 PM

It is our pleasure, if you ever need anything else, we are here... =D
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November 13, 2010 11:23:33 PM

btw, I should've said this earlier, but a SSD from Mushkin is better.... They do great SSDs...
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November 13, 2010 11:26:54 PM

Atotalnoob said:
btw, I should've said this earlier, but a SSD from Mushkin is better.... They do great SSDs...


Great, only $5 more than the one I had picked out too. Looking at it now and will replace with what I had.

Thanks again, I may be back when it comes time to put all this together if I run into trouble in two weeks. Away on work all next week so I have something to look forward to when I return now - lots of UPS packages lol
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November 13, 2010 11:29:45 PM

yeah, your UPS guy is gunna hate you after this... lol =p

The local people near me do... I get about 50000000 packages a day.... stuff I ordered, stuff my friends are trying to prank me with, work, ect...
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November 13, 2010 11:34:15 PM

Atotalnoob said:
yeah, your UPS guy is gunna hate you after this... lol =p

The local people near me do... I get about 50000000 packages a day.... stuff I ordered, stuff my friends are trying to prank me with, work, ect...

you get fifty million packages a day?
thats... THATS OVER 9000!
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November 13, 2010 11:36:55 PM

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thats... THATS OVER 9000!
dude I think you are my clone....
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November 13, 2010 11:37:15 PM

Atotalnoob said:
yeah, your UPS guy is gunna hate you after this... lol =p

The local people near me do... I get about 50000000 packages a day.... stuff I ordered, stuff my friends are trying to prank me with, work, ect...


I am expecting a lot to be delivered, but not that many LOL

Hopefully they all come the same day because I need UPS to hold them at their central office, and they can only do that after one failed delivery. Would feel bad if he had to do that multiple times :) 
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November 13, 2010 11:40:59 PM

yeah, I feel the same, I THINK you can like go in and say, I got a bunch of packages coming, can I pre-sign.....
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November 13, 2010 11:52:08 PM

im almost positive if you buy all the stuff at the same time newegg sends it withing 1-2 business days.
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November 13, 2010 11:57:24 PM

yeah, I couldn't see them going, "hey, let's sned his mobo out tuesday the GPU monday, and the rest a week from now" ^^
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November 13, 2010 11:59:13 PM

i could see amazon doing that..
:o OOOOO BURNNNN hehe.
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November 14, 2010 12:03:51 AM

As far as I am concerned, they have a week to get it to me - as long as the parts are there for me to put together next Monday I will be thrilled :) 
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November 14, 2010 12:04:26 AM

yeah, Goodluck! and Happy gamin'/not gaming...
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November 14, 2010 9:57:47 AM

Cpu:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory:Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model 996829
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gpu:XFX HD-687A-ZNBC Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Psu:XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 14, 2010 2:52:03 PM

You must use the 64-bit versions of LR and Windows to need 12GB of RAM. If you use the 32-bit version, LR will only be able to use 2GB of RAM and will still cache data to the hard drive, regardless of how much RAM you have.
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November 14, 2010 4:59:13 PM

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Cpu:AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory:Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model 996829
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gpu:XFX HD-687A-ZNBC Radeon HD 6870 Black Edition 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD:SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Psu:XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V 2.2 / ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I got four six emails from you posting this exact post on different threads, and I'm sure there are more. Do mods handle this stuff?
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November 14, 2010 5:14:26 PM

blackjellognomes said:
I got four emails from you posting this exact post on different threads, and I'm sure there are more. Do mods handle this stuff?


Same here.
he uses the same two builds for everything.
i don't even think he reads what the OP says.
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