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November 15, 2010 3:37:27 PM

Hello TH users.
I'm planning on to build my second computer and I was wondering if you can help me come up with a new build.
My budget is $1700 without monitor, mouse and keyboard.
Approximate Purchase Date: I would like to order the parts by Cyber Monday.

Budget Range: (e.g.: 600-800) $1500-$1700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: hardcore gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies)

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, tigerdirect.com, amazon.com, buy.com, microcenter.com, any reputable website in the U.S.

Country of Origin: NY, US

Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: I would like to use an Intel CPU i7-9XX & stick with nvidia video card)

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet PC.

Thank you for your help.

UPDATE:
COOLER MASTER HAF X + i7-950 + Sabertooth X58 Combo $600 from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

G.Skill PI 6GB CAS 6 $170 from newegg

eVga GTX 580 $530 or GTX 470s X 2 $468 from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $100 AR + AC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-Sl...

Corsair H70 Hydro Cooler $110 from tigerdirect.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

DVD Burner $21

1TB Samsung 7200RPM 32MB 52$ AC

OCZ Vertex 2 SSD 90GB $100 AR + AC
http://www.meritline.com/ocz-vertex-2-60gb-2-5inch-sata...

Comes out to $1621 with the GTX 470 sli. I'm not sure how else to beef up in my build.

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November 15, 2010 4:17:16 PM

For your price range you can actually get a kick ass system. I'll throw something together real quick. You didn't list what this will be used for?
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November 15, 2010 4:29:53 PM

Ooo this is a BEASTLY system:

DVD Drive: LG DVD/RW Lightscribe 16.99
Graphics Card: Radeon XFX 6870 299.99
PSU: XFX 80 PLUS Silver Modular 850W PSU 149.99(20 MIR - 129.99)
RAM: Mushkin 2x3GB DDR3-1600 CAS 7 Latency RAM 139.99
HSF: Noctua NH-D14 120mm+140mm HSF 89.99
Extra fan for HSF: Noctua NF-P12 120mm fan 25.99
SSD Boot Drive: G.SKILL Phoenix Pro Series(Well rated by Toms) 80 GB SSD 179.99
CPU/Mobo/Case Combo: i7-950/ASUS Sabertooth X58 USB 3.0/SATA 6GB/s Mobo/HAF X 942 Case 599.99
OS/Data Drive Combo: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB/Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 184.98

Total before shipping/MIR: 1687.90

Total after shipping to AZ(where I am) and MIR: 1684.24


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November 15, 2010 4:30:24 PM

Oops just saw the nVidia card thing 1 sec.

Swap the 6870 for this EVGA 470 Graphics Card that only costs 269.99 and it brings the total price down to 1646.61 after shipping and $20 MIR from the PSU.
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November 15, 2010 5:45:00 PM

cmcghee358 said:
For your price range you can actually get a kick ass system. I'll throw something together real quick. You didn't list what this will be used for?

I did.
hardcore gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies

I was too lazy to remove the e.g. Sorry. I just edited it.
Thanks for the suggestion! :D 

I'm planning on a RAID 0 set up with some black friday SSD deals. Hopefully! :) 
I've read that the x58 sabertooth has problems with multiple hdd/raid 0 configuration problems on toms hardware when I was building my first rig.

I'm thinking of the G. Skill PI. It has a lower voltage for just $10 more. I have this and it seems to be working well. The packaging is terrible though. My RAM sticks were out of the packaging when it arrived, but it seems to be working without any errors on memtest for 10+ hours. How does this RAm compare to a corsair dominator CAS 7?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What is the radeon 6870 compare to with an nvidia card? I know the 6870 just came out recently. Have not read too much about this video card.

Thanks for your help cmcghee358!

If you others have any suggestions that'd be awesome thank you!
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November 15, 2010 8:05:19 PM

I was thinking of the i7-950 and asus p6x58 premium combo from microcenter. I have this in my first rig but I think there will be a better deal on black friday. Also the i7-950 had a price drop to $200 now maybe we'll be seeing sub 180 by December?
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November 15, 2010 9:03:51 PM

What do you think of my current build? Can you think of other parts to use to optimize this build while staying below the $1700 budget?
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November 15, 2010 9:07:10 PM

I'd stick with the XFX PSU over the Antec one. It's Modular and 80 PLUS SILVER and in fact it's just a rebrand of a quality Seasonic PSU.

Also the Aircooler I linked cools better than the H70, and is significantly quieter. Toms recently reviewed the H70 and it was loud as heck.

Other than that, it looks good.
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November 15, 2010 9:12:24 PM

Are you talking from experience? I see that you have the H50. Is it relatively louder than the noctua nh-d14? Did you replace your fans? Does it make the fish tank noise from the tank?
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November 15, 2010 9:44:18 PM

I'm speaking from the review that put the H70 at 53dB under load. And the H50 performs on par with mid-range air coolers. The NH-D14 is a top of the line air cooler, and the fans are specirfically designed for noise reduction.
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November 16, 2010 12:54:56 AM

H50 is fine for high overclock.
Definately go for the Pi series:
My i5 750 @ 4.0ghz and my ddr3 2000mhz 4g cas 6 beats a stock i7 930 with hyperthreading :) 

And it beats someone's i5 760 @ 4ghz with 8 gb of 1600ram :) 
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November 16, 2010 1:10:06 AM

An H50 while adequate, isn't a top end cooler. The Noctua ND-14 will destroy an H70. It will do it quieter and for 20 dollars less. As long as you don't have issue with a big air cooler, then I'd get the Noctua
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November 16, 2010 1:20:16 AM

I'd get a Antec DF-85 w/ extra case fan and CP-850 PSU better case, better PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



But if ya set on the HAF-X get it this way and save $75 w/

$600 Asus Sabertooth X58 board w/ 7-950 & HAF-X Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$130 XFX Black Edition 850 (only 4 PSU's get 10.0 performance ratings at jonnyguru, the black, SG-850, CP-850 and HX850)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$140 Mushkin DDR3-1600 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$486 Twin Superclocked EVGA 470 GTX (10% off thru 11/16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$62 Prolimatech Megahalems
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$5 Shin Etsu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$22 Twin Scythe SY1225SL12LM-P
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...

$8 Akasa PWM AK-CB002
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10350/cab-183/Akasa_P...

$200 OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$75 Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$20 Asus DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1748

I went $50 over ya budget but you get big time return...if the extra $5 bothers you, swap out the Megahalems and twin fans for the Scythe Mugen 2 SCMG 2100 and save $52. or get a smaller SSD.....but if it were me, the extra size is well worth it, as is the cooler.
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November 16, 2010 2:16:15 AM

cmcghee358 said:
I'm speaking from the review that put the H70 at 53dB under load. And the H50 performs on par with mid-range air coolers. The NH-D14 is a top of the line air cooler, and the fans are specirfically designed for noise reduction.


I haven't read the toms hardware reviews on the H70 but does the 5x dB come from the fans or the pump itself? Would you still consider the Noctua D14 if the price were the same? Can you quote that review? Thanks!


JackNaylorPE said:
I'd get a Antec DF-85 w/ extra case fan and CP-850 PSU better case, better PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



But if ya set on the HAF-X get it this way and save $75 w/

$600 Asus Sabertooth X58 board w/ 7-950 & HAF-X Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$130 XFX Black Edition 850 (only 4 PSU's get 10.0 performance ratings at jonnyguru, the black, SG-850, CP-850 and HX850)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$140 Mushkin DDR3-1600 CAS 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$486 Twin Superclocked EVGA 470 GTX (10% off thru 11/16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$62 Prolimatech Megahalems
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$5 Shin Etsu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$22 Twin Scythe SY1225SL12LM-P
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10026/fan-639/Scythe_...

$8 Akasa PWM AK-CB002
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10350/cab-183/Akasa_P...

$200 OCZ Vertex 2 3.5" 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$75 Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$20 Asus DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1748

I went $50 over ya budget but you get big time return...if the extra $5 bothers you, swap out the Megahalems and twin fans for the Scythe Mugen 2 SCMG 2100 and save $52. or get a smaller SSD.....but if it were me, the extra size is well worth it, as is the cooler.


Thanks for the suggestion. I was just wondering if it was worth the extra $10 to get the G Skill PI Cas 7 for $150. The only difference is that it has 1.5v. I've read that lower voltage = lower heat/power consumption.



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November 16, 2010 2:51:01 AM

Toms H70 Review

The noise I believe is from the fans. If you really want liquid cooling you can get the Noctua 120mm fans and use those.

The biggest issue is the price it would cost to reduce the noise of the H70 to acceptable levels. What you're honestly talking about is taking an H70 from ~110 to ~160 to make it on par noise wise with the Noctua ND-14 which costs 89.99
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November 16, 2010 4:14:37 AM

cmcghee358 said:
Toms H70 Review

The noise I believe is from the fans. If you really want liquid cooling you can get the Noctua 120mm fans and use those.

The biggest issue is the price it would cost to reduce the noise of the H70 to acceptable levels. What you're honestly talking about is taking an H70 from ~110 to ~160 to make it on par noise wise with the Noctua ND-14 which costs 89.99


Thanks for the article. For $90 does the Noctua ND-14 come with the 2 Noctua fans?

Does it seem like a waste to get the Haf X if I'm only going to have 2 or 3 HDD/SSDs? I'm probably not going to SLI now, but maybe in the future when prices fall a bit. Does having a bigger case (full) offer better cooling than a mid size case? Thanks
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November 16, 2010 5:30:47 AM

It comes with 1x140mm fan in the center, 1x120mm fan on one end, and you can add a 3rd 120mm fan at the other end(which I included in my proposed setup)
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November 16, 2010 5:34:05 AM

Ive built with a Raidmax Enzo case, an Antec 900, 1200 a HAF 912 and a HAF X 942. And the HAF-X 942 was the only case that made me feel like royalty. They include so many things that I don't expect. It's just a good case and feels like someone really wanted to wow their customers with functionality and class.

Btw I own an Antec 1200, as seen in my sig below
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November 16, 2010 5:13:12 PM

I personnaly prefer the 932 to the 1200.
Just a few things that I love from the 932 is the quad 120mm on the side. :) 
Other than that, it's 50/50.
1200 have fan filters.
932 have IMO more aiflow.
What does the 942 has that the 932 doesn't ?
I've seen some kind of docking station not sure what it was for.
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November 16, 2010 5:49:18 PM

Will I be okay with a 650 watt PSU or should I get a 750 or higher just to be safe and to future proof for an SLI possibility?
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November 16, 2010 6:20:33 PM

750 XFX Black Editon silver certified and modular - $130
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November 16, 2010 8:57:25 PM

jay05 said:
Will I be okay with a 650 watt PSU or should I get a 750 or higher just to be safe and to future proof for an SLI possibility?


I think if you relook at the build I posted much earlier with all the links you might be pleased. It includes an 80 PLUS SILVER 850W Modular PSU with a 10.0 rating on jonnyguru.com
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November 17, 2010 1:43:43 AM

cmcghee358 said:
I think if you relook at the build I posted much earlier with all the links you might be pleased. It includes an 80 PLUS SILVER 850W Modular PSU with a 10.0 rating on jonnyguru.com

Yea I just noticed the PSU from your build. I think I'm going to go with it. The antec 750 for $67 is an awesome deal but I already took advantage of the rebate so I might as well get a different one.

How did you get it to $130. I see $150 now?

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-Sl...
It's $100 shipped AR and has 5 eggs. :)  7yr warranty
What do you think?
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November 17, 2010 2:08:03 AM

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I think if you relook at the build I posted much earlier with all the links you might be pleased. It includes an 80 PLUS SILVER 850W Modular PSU with a 10.0 rating on jonnyguru.com


If I use dual gtx 470 will I need more than 750 watts? Newegg PSU calc suggests 865 watts. :S
According to guru3d sli gtx 470 needs 567 watts.

I figured it out. The Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750W 80 Plus Silver Modular Power Supply will be able to run dual gtx 470 according to nvidia.
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html

I guess newegg exaggerates on its psu calculator or something.

How can I cool these video cards? I have the gtx 470 superclocked in my first build and it gets hot.
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November 17, 2010 4:39:44 AM

jay05 said:
Yea I just noticed the PSU from your build. I think I'm going to go with it. The antec 750 for $67 is an awesome deal but I already took advantage of the rebate so I might as well get a different one.

How did you get it to $130. I see $150 now?

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-Sl...
It's $100 shipped AR and has 5 eggs. :)  7yr warranty
What do you think?


20 Mail in Rebate on the XFX 850W Modular PSU. After all the changes to your build I kind of lost track of what your current price is. If you can afford teh XFX for 130 I'd get it over the Corsair 750W. Just because it's 100W higher, and of excellent quality(see Seasonic 80 PLUS SILVER certification)
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November 17, 2010 4:45:58 AM

jay05 said:
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I think if you relook at the build I posted much earlier with all the links you might be pleased. It includes an 80 PLUS SILVER 850W Modular PSU with a 10.0 rating on jonnyguru.com


If I use dual gtx 470 will I need more than 750 watts? Newegg PSU calc suggests 865 watts. :S
According to guru3d sli gtx 470 needs 567 watts.

I figured it out. The Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750W 80 Plus Silver Modular Power Supply will be able to run dual gtx 470 according to nvidia.
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html

I guess newegg exaggerates on its psu calculator or something.

How can I cool these video cards? I have the gtx 470 superclocked in my first build and it gets hot.


Fermi's run hot. If you want to alleviate that, either maximize case airflow, get an aftermarket cooling solution(be it a high performance air cooler, or water cooling) or drop your nVidia bias and try AMD's offerings which are signifcantly cooler.
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November 17, 2010 4:51:09 AM

cmcghee358 said:
20 Mail in Rebate on the XFX 850W Modular PSU. After all the changes to your build I kind of lost track of what your current price is. If you can afford teh XFX for 130 I'd get it over the Corsair 750W. Just because it's 100W higher, and of excellent quality(see Seasonic 80 PLUS SILVER certification)


Is it this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I do not see the rebate.

Any suggestions on the aftermarket air cooler for the video cards or will I even need it?

Quote:
Fermi's run hot. If you want to alleviate that, either maximize case airflow, get an aftermarket cooling solution(be it a high performance air cooler, or water cooling) or drop your nVidia bias and try AMD's offerings which are signifcantly cooler.


I currently have the gtx 470 OC with stock fans and I haven't had an problems with it so far and seems to be durable even though my first H70 leaked water and thermal compound on it and took me awhile to clean it up.

I'm taking advantage of the 10% off with gtx 470 which ends up costing $234 shipped. According to videocardbenchmarks (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html) the gtx 470 outperforms the Radeon HD 6870 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and costs less too. However, heat is an issue and I have not tried a sli configuration on 2 gtx 470s and looking for any advice you can give me. :) 

Thanks for all your replies so far! Very helpful!
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November 17, 2010 7:04:09 AM

Seems the rebate was yanked between when I made the initial build post and now. Sucks.

What resolution are you going to be gaming at?

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How can I cool these video cards? I have the gtx 470 superclocked in my first build and it gets hot.


This statement made me think that you were concerned with the temperature of the 470. If you're not concerned, then I'm not concerned.
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November 17, 2010 7:05:21 AM

I'm curious why you're going to get another H70 when your last one leaked.

I don't want to come off like a douche here but are there like 2 people posting on your account, because between your posts you kind of don't make any sense.
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November 17, 2010 3:43:07 PM

cmcghee358 said:
I'm curious why you're going to get another H70 when your last one leaked.

I don't want to come off like a douche here but are there like 2 people posting on your account, because between your posts you kind of don't make any sense.


I have a spare one because I ordered 2 for 80$ each a couple weeks ago.
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