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October 13, 2011 9:48:23 PM

Hello everyone and thank you for taking the time to read this. I have decided to finally upgrade my mobo and processor. basically my question is, i have tinkered with my setup adding ram, new video cards etc but i havent touched my mobo or processor and was wondering if it was just as simple as making sure i have the right slots and pins for my new board(i was planning on getting a combo mobo/processor) below are the specs of my board and its a amd 64 processor. also any recomendations would be appreciated, im pretty much just looking for something that will run the current pc games out today

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CPU support Socket 939-based Athlon 64 processors
Form factor ATX
Chipset VIA K8T800 Pro
North bridge VIA K8T800 Pro
South bridge VIA VT8237
Interconnect Ultra V-Link (1.06GB/sec)
PCI slots 5 32-bit/33MHz
AGP slots 1 AGP 4X/8X (1.5V only)
Memory 4 184-pin DIMM sockets
Maximum of 4GB of DDR266/333/400 SDRAM
Storage I/O Floppy disk
2 channels ATA/133
2 channels Serial ATA 150 via VT8237 south bridge with RAID 0,1 support
Audio 6-channel audio via VT8237 integrated audio and ALC658 codec
Ports 1 PS/2 keyboard
1 PS/2 mouse
1 serial
1 parallel
4 USB 2.0 with headers for 4 more
1 Firewire via VIA VT6306 with headers for 2 more
1 RJ45 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet via VIA VT6122

1 analog front out
1 analog bass/center out
1 analog rear out
1 analog line in
1 analog mic in
1 digital S/PDIF output (TOS-Link)
1 digital S/PDIF input (TOS-Link)
BIOS Phoenix AwardBIOS
Bus speeds CPU: 200-336MHz in 1MHz increments
Bus dividers CPU:AGP:p CI: 8:2:1, 7:2:1, 6:2:1, fixed
Voltages CPU: 1.5-1.85V in 0.025V increments
AGP: 1.5-1.65V in 0.05V increments
DRAM: 2.5-2.8V in 0.05V increments
Northbridge: 1.5-1.65V in 0.05V increments
Southbridge: 2.5-2.65V in 0.05V increments
HT: 1.2-1.4V in 0.05V increments
Monitoring Voltage, fan status, and temperature monitoring
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October 13, 2011 10:45:27 PM

To recommend something we will need to know your budget and monitor resolution. List your full system specs as well to see if you can reuse some of the components like case, PSU and drives!
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October 13, 2011 11:07:23 PM

I was planning on reusing everything provided i could find a mobo and processor with ddr ram slots and the proper pins for my power source and drives. my budget is around 100-200 bucks or so im not expecting some amazing setup just something to get me by, specs are below

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.110617-0336)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: VIAK8T
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, ~2.0GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Page File: 1166MB used, 5205MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: The file aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atiumdva.cap is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter AGP (0x9505)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_95051002&REV_00
Display Memory: 888 MB
Dedicated Memory: 509 MB
Shared Memory: 379 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name: aticfx32.dll,aticfx32.dll,atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atiumdva.cap
Driver Version: 8.17.0010.1091 (English)
DDI Version: 10.1
BGRA Supported: Yes
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/28/2011 17:40:44, 726528 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D645-11CF-F177-0FB5BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9505
SubSys ID: 0x95051002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3059&SUBSYS_1415147B&REV_60
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3059&SUBSYS_1415147B&REV_60
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: SPDIF (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Phone Line (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

Description: Line In (Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKVAC.SYS
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6305 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 6/18/2009 19:45:02, 4172832 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Microsoft® Digital Media Pro Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00B0
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Microsoft® Digital Media Pro Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00B0
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/11/2009 00:43:16, 196096 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:24, 5888 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00B0
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/11/2009 00:38:40, 17408 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:45, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:49, 35384 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC051
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:45, 15872 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:45, 34360 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 4/11/2009 02:32:52, 53224 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:45, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/20/2008 22:32:45, 34360 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 21.1 GB
Total Space: 76.3 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: SAMSUNG SP0822N ATA Device

Drive: E:
Model: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-812S ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6002.18005 (English), 4/11/2009 00:39:17, 67072 bytes
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October 13, 2011 11:17:23 PM

well, if you have to stick to ddr ram, your choices are pretty limited. you can easily get a amd quad core, motherboard, and 4gb of ram for about $150. as for your powwer suupply, i would get a new corsair $50 power supply, and right there for $200 you have a crapton of new hardware. price it out at tigerdirect.com or newegg.com
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a c 1163 V Motherboard
October 13, 2011 11:26:02 PM

Looks like your drives are IDE which is a dying interface, Case and PSU??
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October 13, 2011 11:45:13 PM

There's really not much there that's reuseable at this point.

The CPU and motherboard are both out obviously. The RAM is DDR (1), which is also out because even the older AMD moterboards now are DDR2, and everything else is DDR3. The video card is AGP, so that's out also because everything now is PCI-E. Both the HDD and DVD drives are IDE, which you can technically still find on some motherboards, but thats vanishing quickly as well. The Power Supply *may* be reusable, but it depends on if it has at least a 4pin CPU plug or not, and older systems didn't have this. If you have a standard case and not a non-standard vendor model then you can reuse that if you'd like, though back when your system was new cases often didn't have nearly the cooling they do now, so that's not the best idea either.

Honestly at this point, the only real possible upgrad you could do with your current system would be if you could find an early socket 939 AMD64 x2 to drop in your current motherboard. That would give you a dual core, but no real change in per-core performance. I'm not sure if those are available or not, or I'd your bios would support one either.

Saving more for a new system is really the only option that makes sense at this point unfortunately.
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October 14, 2011 12:04:40 AM

i couldnt find my case model number but i know its an ultra brand mid tower model with the clear side, psu is 500 watt
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October 14, 2011 12:08:20 AM

ok well thats out, is it still viable to build from scratch if i havent really built one since 04-05ish it seems a ton has changed lol
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a b V Motherboard
October 14, 2011 12:23:33 AM

Nah, its even easier to build now if you have done successful builds before. Dont be scared, we are here.
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October 14, 2011 2:20:34 AM

ya, ill def keep this e bookmarked from now on lol
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