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November 16, 2010 9:47:51 AM

Hey guys,
Im looking to purchase these computer parts in the next few days, but I have a few questions first. The prices on newegg have gone up since I last checked, so the total cost may be a bit off.


Computer Use:
Mainly for producing music and some 3D. I plan on heavily using a lot of plugins and vst's with midi. Im also using it for 3ds Max rendering/VFX simulations, and some post-production software for video editing like After Effects etc. I think the onboard videocard will handle my needs for now until I can upgrade.



::::::::::::::::What I plan on buying in a few days:::::::::::::::::


Motherboard with Videocard:
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard = $149

On-board VideoCard:
ATI Radeon HD 4290

CPU: (Overclocked to 4.0ghz, or higher, like around 4.3ghz, depending on whether you guys think the Noctua and my system can safely handle it)
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX = $189

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH = $190

Case:
Antec Sonata Elite Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $90

PSU:
Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply = $110

(2x in Raid 0) Harddrives:
Recertified: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive = ($90 each) or $180

Dvd Drive:
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM = $20

Cooling System:
Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler = $110

What I own already:
I have 2 LCD monitors, mouse, keyboard, bm5a dynaudio speakers, an external 0404 emu sound card, windows 7 ultimate 64bit, and other various purchased software.


Total = $1038



:::::::::::::::::::::The Upgrades I plan on buying in a few months:::::::::::::::::::::


Video Card:
SAPPHIRE 100314SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity = $240

or I may wait until the Radeon HD 6990 videocard comes out in Q1 2011.


More Ram: (16gb total)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBRH = $190


(2 SSD's in Raid 0) Harddrives:
Patriot Inferno PI120GS25SSDR 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) = ($199 each) or $400

Blueray/Lightscribe/Dvd/Cd Burner:
LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner - LightScribe Support - Bulk - OEM = $110


Upgrade total = $940


Initial Costs ($1038) with future upgrades($940) included = $1978




Here are my questions:

Are all the parts compatible including what I listed on my upgrades list? Im pretty sure they are, but I'd rather double check with you guys, and be on the safe side.

Does anyone know if the Noctua NH-D14 cooler will fit in the Antec case with all the parts listed including upgrades, i.e 16gb of ram (4 x 4gb), a Radeon HD 6870 (possibly crossfired in a few months), and 750w PSU etc?

Is the power supply (750w) too little with an overclocked cpu(@4.3ghz), Radeon HD 6870 crossfired and overclocked @4.6gflops), and ram possibly overclocked a bit from 1600 to 1800mhz ish? If it is too little, what if I don't crossfire/overclock the videocard, will 750w be enough then?

Will the Noctua NH-D14 combined with the Antec rear 120mm fan, cool my pc enough with those previously mentioned overclocked items, or do I need a better cooling system? If I do need more cooling, what if I don't crossfire/overclock the videocard, will it be enough then? If the Noctua is overkill on this rig, can you recommend a cheaper alternative?

Are the recertified harddrives worth the discount? or should I buy them brand new? (New = $140 Recertified = $90)

Can the GSKILL ripjaws ram handle a bit of overclocking? i.e 1600 to 1800mhz. I've never used this brand before.

If there are any Canadian Newegg users out there, you may be able to help. I live in Ontario Canada, how long would it take newegg to deliver all these parts roughly after purchasing? and what is their return policy regarding broken recertified items and RMA's? also, what delivery system do they use, Fed Ex? Canada Post?


Any other tips/warnings/recommendations you can think of would be greatly appreciated!!!

THANKS! :) 

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November 16, 2010 9:57:41 AM

I made a similar computer for a lot less money with a GPU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/299007-31-opinions-ma...

Mine doesn't have as much RAM, but you can use this combo instead for your 6 core and 8GB ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The small form factor is quite good, plus if you are doing 3d as in Photoshop or video edting, the GTX 470 has CUDA, which is much better for that than the 6870, plus no tesselation. And the two cards perform VERY similar on benchmarks. However the 470 has a hell of a discount right now.

Also, the 2 TB spinpoints in raid 0 out perform your raptors for almost half the cost. I was getting 270.4 avg R/W with them in the last build I made.

Good deal on the board, as well.

Check out that case here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUayuAGwbE
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November 16, 2010 10:21:04 AM

chumly said:
I made a similar computer for a lot less money with a GPU:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/299007-31-opinions-ma...

Mine doesn't have as much RAM, but you can use this combo instead for your 6 core and 8GB ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The small form factor is quite good, plus if you are doing 3d as in Photoshop or video edting, the GTX 470 has CUDA, which is much better for that than the 6870, plus no tesselation. And the two cards perform VERY similar on benchmarks. However the 470 has a hell of a discount right now.

Also, the 2 TB spinpoints in raid 0 out perform your raptors for almost half the cost. I was getting 270.4 avg R/W with them in the last build I made.

Good deal on the board, as well.

Check out that case here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUayuAGwbE



Hey thanks for the suggestions! Im keen on sticking with 6 cores seeing as Im not going to be upgrading to a new computer rig any time soon, and am doing heavy 3d rendering and particle work on top of music production.

The only problem with the combo for cpu/ram you posted is that I plan on upgrading to 16gb in a few months, and the 4 x 2gb would take up all the slots unfortunately :( 

The other thing Im curious about is how the spinpoints were able to out perform the raptors, because they have a slower rpm 7200 and a higher seek time of 8.9ms instead of 10,000rpm and 4.2ms seek time. If you have any more information that would be very helpful! Did you have a separate raid controller?
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November 16, 2010 10:32:20 AM

es101 said:
Hey thanks for the suggestions! Im keen on sticking with 6 cores seeing as Im not going to be upgrading to a new computer rig any time soon, and am doing heavy 3d rendering and particle work on top of music production.

The only problem with the combo for cpu/ram you posted is that I plan on upgrading to 16gb in a few months, and the 4 x 2gb would take up all the slots unfortunately :( 

The other thing Im curious about is how the spinpoints were able to out perform the raptors, because they have a slower rpm 7200 and a higher seek time of 8.9ms instead of 10,000rpm and 4.2ms seek time. If you have any more information that would be very helpful! Did you have a separate raid controller?


Here are the benches:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23...

I believe it has something to do with the platter size.

And here's some cheaper ram...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unless you have your heart set on ripjaws.
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November 16, 2010 11:05:11 AM

chumly said:
Here are the benches:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23...

I believe it has something to do with the platter size.

And here's some cheaper ram...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Unless you have your heart set on ripjaws.



Sweet thanks! Are the spinpoint f4's better than the f3's?

I have no preference over the brand of ram, Im only interested in performance. I noticed the cheaper ram you posted has a latency of 9 9 9 24 as opposed to 7 8 7 24. Would latency make a big difference in performance? Or does latency in ram only matter if you are gaming?
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November 16, 2010 11:21:33 AM

es101 said:
Sweet thanks! Are the spinpoint f4's better than the f3's?

I have no preference over the brand of ram, Im only interested in performance. I noticed the cheaper ram you posted has a latency of 9 9 9 24 as opposed to 7 8 7 24. Would latency make a big difference in performance? Or does latency in ram only matter if you are gaming?


I'm not really an expert on RAM... so I would not be the person to ask.

F4's are slightly faster than F3's, but for the price at superbiiz, I would definitely opt for 2TB's for $104 vs 640 GB for $88.

However, comma, if you raid0 4 of them.... wow.
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