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November 16, 2010 6:53:51 PM

Hello,

I am looking to build a pc. I am not a huge PC gamer because I have never been able to play any games at full capacity without problems. I am looking to correct that. I built my own PC years ago which worked very well. I am now looking to build another and I am rusty. I want to get a new PC together before the new WOW expansion launches as I am currently working off of a $400 notebook. I have read tons of posts and information off of this site and others. I have put together a list but would really like some input from those of you who have done this multiple times. You may be able to save me some money. PC's have changed so much since my last build so please call out any extras I would need to purchase to get this up and running. Thanks

Approximate Purchase Date: I have to have this built by 12/4/10

Budget Range: $600-700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: World of Warcraft, maybe future MMO’s, and RTS games, Browsing the internet, watching movies, minor photo editing, listening to music, minor video editing.

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor (32” 1080p LCD television), speakers. I have Windows XP Pro so I could use that but maybe just an upgrade to Windows 7? I also have a full size Antec case but the wire management sucks.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, tigerdirect.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences:



ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$19.99



SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
$54.99



ASUS M4A88T-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131668
$109.99



SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814102858
-$15.00 Instant
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$169.99
$154.99
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OCZ RALLY2 8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model OCZUSBR2DC-8GB
Item #: N82E16820227233
-$10.00 Instant
-$16.99 Saving $26.99
$0.00



CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-620HX 620W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ...
Item #: N82E16817139002
$60.00 Instant $169.99
$109.99



G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
Item #: N82E16820231277
$74.99



AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103727
-$10.00 Instant $175.99
$165.99



ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835186134
$39.98

Subtotal: $730.91

I would like an SSD but couldn’t find any decent deals. Any recommendations you have will be much appreciated.

Overclocking: Maybe when I learn more about it. I have been lurking on these forums for some time. I built my first pc 5 years ago after reading information. It didn’t go too well.

SLI or Crossfire: Don’t think it’s necessary for the games I am looking to play. However I would like the option for the future.

Monitor Resolution: 32” 1080p LCD television

Additional Comments: I like a quiet clean look. I have a full tower case from an old PC but the Antec wiring management on this case is terrible.

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November 16, 2010 8:10:11 PM

get the Phenom II 955 BE. just raise the multiplier 1 and your at 965's speed. Buying a 965 is a waste of $.
and get the hyper 212 + for $30 its a better cooler and will do fine for an average OC.
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November 16, 2010 8:45:17 PM

Overall, I think the build looks pretty good.

The only major snag comes when looking at CrossFire. The 880G motherboard CrossFires at 16x/4x, which is not ideal. You want 8x/8x (or better) for CrossFire.

The ASRock 880G Extreme3 is a good deal, CrossFire capable, and it has USB 3.0 & SATA 6.0 Gb/s. It's also the same price as the Asus board you picked out.

You might consider the XFX 650W PSU, for $90. 80+ Bronze, modular, etc. There's even a combo with a 5770 right now for $35 off.

Your budget isn't going to fit an SSD. They're still just a nice-to-have, not a must-have, and it's pretty easy to add one in later.

There are some really good deals on Corsair XMS3 memory right now, like this 4 GB CL9 1333 MHz kit for $67, or this CL9 1600 MHz kit. The G.Skill kit is also just fine, but it's $75, obviously.

You can save $4-5 on a DVD burner by going to DVD Burners & sorting by lowest price and SATA interface (don't get IDE).

If you can stretch your budget a little bit, it might be worthwhile to get an AMD 6850 rather than the 5770. The cheapest in stock is currently $200, which is a little more than the 5770 you picked out.

Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit is currently $95, and you may be able to find combos. It's significantly better than Vista, but I don't know if it's going to fit in your stated budget.

You could cut costs by going with an Athlon II X3 for about $90 less than the Phenom II X4...which would just about cover Win 7 64-bit.
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November 16, 2010 9:18:51 PM

Thanks for the quick replies. If I downgrade the cpu I figured my system would not last as long before needing to upgrade.
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November 16, 2010 9:23:17 PM

Just wait for sandy bridge. Save the 750 you have now, and save up as much as you can for sandy bridge.
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November 16, 2010 9:27:23 PM

Since the OP needs a new computer before Cataclysm comes out, can't really afford to wait for the new tech coming out in the next few months.

If you skimp a little on the processor now, you can always upgrade to a Phenom II X4 later, if just the CPU needs to be updated. It's really up to you, though. At $600-700, you get the best bang for your gaming buck with an X3 and the strongest GPU you can afford.
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November 16, 2010 9:33:58 PM



Heres what I would look at in 700 range. The 5770 is weak for full 1080p
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November 16, 2010 9:46:29 PM

Funny that is the original ram I had for that build set up but couldn't find it =]
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November 16, 2010 9:54:20 PM

zooted said:
Funny that is the original ram I had for that build set up but couldn't find it =]

teamwork ftw?
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November 16, 2010 9:56:29 PM

vindictive said:
teamwork ftw?
=]
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November 16, 2010 10:03:48 PM

What kind of settings can I expect to be able to play Wow on?
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November 16, 2010 10:06:51 PM

With my build? Pretty damn high that is a good gpu ^ it will spank the 5770 which you had selected in the beginning.
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November 16, 2010 10:07:04 PM

gt1081 said:
What kind of settings can I expect to be able to play Wow on?

never played it so ill leave this one to someone else :p 
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November 16, 2010 10:10:41 PM

I ran wow when it first came out on med-low settings on a geforce 4 ti 4200 =]. I cant imagine the game has drastically changed that much
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November 17, 2010 2:28:14 AM

I run 60+ fps with a Phenom II and a 5870 at 1920x1200 everywhere except Dalaran at primetime. It gets a little lower in raiding, of course.

This is an older review, but it suggests you might normally see 45-50 fps at 1920x1200 out and about. That was one of the first hits I got googling "WoW 5770 benchmarks".
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November 17, 2010 12:17:12 PM

unless he gets the 6850 like in zooted suggestion, which is what I'd get.
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November 17, 2010 1:55:19 PM

I also think the 6850 would be good value, as I mentioned in my original post. I just don't know if it's going to fit in the budget.

At any rate, the 6850 should produce higher fps than the 5770, and benchmarks for a 6850 should also be able to be found on google.
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November 17, 2010 2:06:41 PM

zooted said:
]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6399/700w7.png

Heres what I would look at in 700 range. The 5770 is weak for full 1080p

Well its right there for $51 over budget.. If the OP can go over budget by $50 this is def. a worth $50 improvement IMO.
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November 17, 2010 7:28:49 PM

I can definitely swing $750. I think I am going to gather the money together and see if I can pull off the SSD and X4 955. I just hate the idea of spending all this money and not getting the pieces off the bat that would kill an oem system and not need upgrading for a few years. I just think I will end up replacing the X3 in like 3 months. Maybe I'm wrong.
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