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November 14, 2010 1:49:40 AM

Hi guys


I'm planning to build a pc on a budget and due to funds id like to get decent enought parts and put them in a bare bones over time I.e buy a good cpu and motherboard and use the onboard graphics for a month or so and then by a good GPU etc, Any idea of the best value gaming motherboards and cps and ram etc? ones that work well together?

i can then buy a gpu decent HDDs and upgrade the smaller parts over time.

Used to be big into building pcs but havent in years so no idea what are good prices these days.

Paul :non: 

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November 14, 2010 2:38:51 AM

Budget please..
November 14, 2010 3:00:52 AM

here is what you want:

890gx motherboard *edit 890gx*
any phenom processor
any ddr3 gksill ram

there now go have at it.
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November 14, 2010 3:19:38 AM

Athlon II X3 and an ASRock board with 2 PCI-E Slots to go with it. If you're really low budget then I'd say the 785GXH (the board uses a switch card like the old XPress 1600 boards to give you two 8x slots), and a cheap C2 chip that the board supports with the shipping BIOS.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the latest BIOS updates that board supports up to an X6 CPU so plenty of room to upgrade there. The first two PCI-E slots can run in 8x mode for crossfire. The onboard graphics ain't great, but you can latter upgrade first to one 6870, and then add another one latter :D .
November 14, 2010 10:11:54 AM

I have the above config , an x3 440, and it beats the phenom 550 in almost ALL benchmarks , yet costs around £35-40 less ...oh and it easily overclocks to 3.5 ghz without even breaking a sweat ...I would get the x3 and as someone mentioned a Asrock 785 gxh...you can get them both for around £100.......now that's good value!
November 14, 2010 9:25:02 PM

Sorry about the delay, Around 500 is for the whole pc at the moment but that would be for a decent motherboard and cpu and case psu ram etc., id use and old hdd and do without graphics till i can afford it in a month etc
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November 15, 2010 12:05:36 AM

For 500$ you could opt for these components -

Motherboard - Asrock 890GX Extreme3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor - AMD Athlon II X4 640
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - Corsair 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - Antec 300 Illusion Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - Corsair TX 650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 15, 2010 2:12:40 PM

Frizzo said:
here is what you want:

890gx motherboard *edit 890gx*
any phenom processor
any ddr3 gksill ram

there now go have at it.



does having onboard gpu hinder over clocking speeds for when i buy a decent graphics card and install it?
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November 15, 2010 2:45:13 PM

paulhennessy1986 said:
does having onboard gpu hinder over clocking speeds for when i buy a decent graphics card and install it?


Not at all..
November 15, 2010 4:13:09 PM

is there any combos for the x6 1095t?
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November 15, 2010 4:48:16 PM

No point considering an X6 for a gaming build.. The X4's and the X3's are plenty enough for that purpose..
November 16, 2010 12:03:09 AM

Emperus said:
No point considering an X6 for a gaming build.. The X4's and the X3's are plenty enough for that purpose..



Basicially thinking for future proofing a bit. do a fair bit of photoshop and such too so wouldnt mind the extra cores, i heard you can oc the x6 up to around 4ghz quite easy
November 16, 2010 12:06:38 AM

Also does any one know when the am3+ boards are comming out? id be happy to get an x 4 and then upgrade later if the mb can support the bulldozer etc
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November 16, 2010 1:06:44 AM

From whatever info is available now, it doesn't looks like the Bulldozer platform will be compatible to any of the current line of processors.. Can't actually blame AMD here.. They desperately need a major architectural overhaul to compete with Intel on the performance front.. They too must be sick and tired of just sitting there, waving the price to performance flag..
November 16, 2010 1:11:13 AM

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From whatever info is available now, it doesn't looks like the Bulldozer platform will be compatible to any of the current line of processors.. Can't actually blame AMD here.. They desperately need a major architectural overhaul to compete with Intel on the performance front.. They too must be sick and tired of just sitting there, waving the price to performance flag..

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Id love to get an amd3+ mb and just use an x4 or x6. pity.

what is the best mb to go with the x6 and x4 at the mo? also what ram should i be going for?

just out of curiosity how do the x6 and x4's rank when they are overclocked to 4ghz compared to the high end intel cps that are hard to overclock so more limited in speed?
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November 16, 2010 1:51:40 AM

With cash permitting, you can opt for the Asus M4A89TD Pro/USB3.. It is based on the newest AMD chipset available and has a pretty decent price tag marked to it.. To answer your overclock query, an Intel i7/i5 will both be faster and also more stable compared to any AMD CPU clocked similarly (4GHz in your case).. That should however not deject you.. An AMD X4 running at 3.8 GHz (my considered sweet point for AMD processors) is plenty fast to keep up with the best video cards available out there and enough stable to consider running in a 24 x 7 system..
November 16, 2010 2:28:26 AM

Emperus said:
With cash permitting, you can opt for the Asus M4A89TD Pro/USB3.. It is based on the newest AMD chipset available and has a pretty decent price tag marked to it.. To answer your overclock query, an Intel i7/i5 will both be faster and also more stable compared to any AMD CPU clocked similarly (4GHz in your case).. That should however not deject you.. An AMD X4 running at 3.8 GHz (my considered sweet point for AMD processors) is plenty fast to keep up with the best video cards available out there and enough stable to consider running in a 24 x 7 system..



THank you for your advice by the way, IVe been reading around and alot of people seem to think that the i5 760 2.8GHz 8MB is better then the x6 and x4s etc. What is your opinion? I want to go heavy with games but at the end of the day ill be using it for downloading. photoshop music production and alot of things at the same time
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November 16, 2010 3:57:48 AM

Hi paulhennessy1986, I would say the performance from the i5-760 will be all you need for gaming these days and most likely well into the future, as Tom's has ranked it the best Gaming CPU since its release. But the problem is it will be really tough to stay within a $500 budget if you need to buy a complete system, I dont not know if it would be possible, at least without making some sacrifices.
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November 16, 2010 3:59:19 AM

The i5 760 is stronger overall processor compared to any of the X4's and it edges out even the X6's apart from a few applications which are core heavy (3DS Max for example).. However, it does not has that big an edge when considered solely for gaming.. So if your primary task is playing high end 3D games then better to invest more heavily towards getting a stronger video card.. If you are more a novice towards photoshop then best not to let it be the criteria for your processor/platform selection..
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November 16, 2010 4:42:57 AM

Hey paulhennessy1986, I dont mean to stray the tread of from its discussion but I just put together this build for another forum poster with a $500 budget so I figured I would post it here for you to take a look at as well.

With this $500 build the CPU I selected is a dual core that can POSSIBLY be unlocked to a quad(AMD doesnt want people doing this but alot do and its a FREE performance upgrade :)  , the Asus Mobo allows you to do this unlock with the BIOS, but as I said there is NO GAURANTEE of the cores nlocking for you.




**--This is another build with a x4 AMD CPU(this removes the risk of core unlocking)--**

November 16, 2010 2:48:29 PM

Whats a good ram clock speed for the asus board with the x4, do any of the other amd chips unlock to the x6 like x4?
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November 16, 2010 4:23:49 PM

paulhennessy1986 said:
Whats a good ram clock speed for the asus board with the x4, do any of the other amd chips unlock to the x6 like x4?
Hi , paulhennessy1986. First, far as I know no AMD chips unlock from x4 to x6. And secondly, when I posted that I was not aware that there in no guarantee that any of the CPU's will unlock the third or fourth core for you, many have done it an succeded but it is the luck of the draw and not a 100% thing. They way this happens is that AMD makes the x4 CPUs and based on the quality and defects of the chip when they test them they may disable one or two of the cores and sell them as x3's or x2's, so the extra cores may be defective or they may work just fine but didnt get the OK from AMD for ome reason to be x4 CPU's

With that said I am updating my previous post with the $500 PC build to a new setup that will have a x4 CPu to begin with to remove the risk of you not being able to unlock the extra cores.

I just wanted to let you know about this and if you think that you still want to try useing a CPU that you can possibly unlock cores its up to you.
November 16, 2010 5:34:12 PM

whats the best ram for an x6 at the mo?
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November 16, 2010 5:47:13 PM

The best ram choice will depend on the motherboard.. The processor has little to do with it..
November 16, 2010 11:52:41 PM

What do you think of antec cases, Besides the fans in them is there really a big reason to spend even 80 dollars on a antec 200 case comared to one for saw 30 dollars?
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November 17, 2010 1:31:32 AM

If you are looking for and average sized case(mid-tower), the Antec 300(Antec 300 Illusion) is about the best you can buy, I use a 300 Illusion. I have seen them both for $40 on sale and thier normally priced at $60-$70. IMHO a far better choice than the 200, I have no idea why it would be priced so high. All in all Antec build some really nice quality cases, main reason they are so popular, but it really comes down to the features you want in a case, good air-flow, and quality construction.
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November 17, 2010 1:34:49 AM

Antec 200 for 80$.! That's a high price.. Nonetheless, Antec is a top quality case manufacturer.. They generally roll out cases with excellent build quality, design, features and performance.. They have a big and long existent name when it comes to cases in the pc industry..
November 17, 2010 2:09:41 AM

Sorry im converting euro prices in to dollars roughly so most likely got it wrong, theres an antec 200 case for 52 euro and the 300 case for 62

300 i should go for then? what would be a good psw to do along with that, in a few months i want to put in crossfire config with 2 cards, im sure what wattage i would require for that.
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November 17, 2010 3:27:26 AM

I highly doubt you will be dissapointed if you go with the Antec 300, if you can afford to spend a little extra, try to find the 300 Illusion as Antec provides all the fans you need in that version. 2 - front 120mm(blue led's/3 speed) intakes with dust filter, 1 - 140mm(blue led's/2 speed) top exhaust fan, and 1 - 120mm(no led's/3 speed) rear exhaust fan. I belive the standard 300 has 1 x 120mm rear fan and 1 x 140mm top fan

If you want recommendations for PSU wattage your going to have to give us your full system specs. and the GPU's that you want to X-fire/SLI.

On the other hand you can go here: Antec Power Supply Calculator and enter the information about your system and it will recommend how much power your PC will require.

I can tell you the best made/performing brands of PSU's that are out there today are Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, along with a select few others.
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November 17, 2010 4:04:28 AM

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