HD 5770 and GTX 460

[jeetsm]

Hi friends,

I would like to have some advice from you all regarding the above 2 DX11 GPU's. I will be buying a card for my system in about 30 days for sure.
I have posted it on this site some months back also but that time things weren't in my favour. Now i've got a new job and I am looking forward to get a card asap. Last time also the forum members helped me a lot. Hope to c ur responses soon.

Following are the details of PC.:
AMD Athlon 64 4200+ Dual core
Samsung 15" monitor(max res. 1152 x 768 pixels)
HDD Seagate 160GB
(n I am glad to tell that I bought a 1TB WD HDD_caviar green 2 weeks back)
Gigabyte S2 series motherboard_Nvidia_6100 onboard.
iBall music pulse_headphones(these too bought along HDD )

Some of the Games I can play right now:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R:Shadow of Chernobyl
S.T.A.L.K.E.R:Clear Sky
S.T.A.L.K.E.R:Call of pripyat(playable in windowed mode )
Doom 3
Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare
Call of Duty 6:Modern Warfare 2(settings nead to be lowered )

Some of the Games I have but the thing is they laugh out loud at my PC:

Bioshock
Mass Effect
AVP
ARMA-II
Crysis
Crysis Warhead
Just Cause 2
GTA IV
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I have read about both cards and would like to play games like Mass Effect2, crysis 2, bioshock 2,max payne 3,syberia 3,deus ex 3 on full settings atleast till 1600x1200 resolution. Right now can just play Farcry on full settings so please suggest and also if any other card is capable. My budget is till 12-13K excluding the price for a power supply.

 

[skolpo]

What currency are you using? 12k-13k as in US dollars? Are you planning to buy an entirely new computer?

If you're just looking for advice on picking up either an HD 5770 or GTX 460 for a monitor using a 1600x1200 resolution, then my choice would be the GTX 460 1GB. However, the CPU you have is rated at 2.2GHz, which might be a problem since it might end up holding you back in certain games. Try overclocking your Athlon if you want to see more consistent framerates when you purchase your new card.

And what is the power supply you have now?

 

[Tamz_msc]

Sorry friend, those cards are overkill for your current PC.I suggest that you get a decent card for less than 100$ like the HD 5670 or GT 240 and get as much RAM as possible.Then save money and buy a new PC later on.

 

[Tamz_msc]

What currency are you using? 12k-13k as in US dollars? Are you planning to buy an entirely new computer?

If you're just looking for advice on picking up either an HD 5770 or GTX 460 for a monitor using a 1600x1200 resolution, then my choice would be the GTX 460 1GB. However, the CPU you have is rated at 2.2GHz, which might be a problem since it might end up holding you back in certain games. Try overclocking your Athlon if you want to see more consistent framerates when you purchase your new card.

And what is the power supply you have now?

I'm sure he lives in India 12-13K refers to INR.

 

[borisof007]

"Samsung 15" monitor(max res. 1152 x 768 pixels)"

"I would like to play games on full settings at least at 1600x1200 resolution".

You'll need a new monitor first according to your own specs, and you say your budget is 12-13k.... 12-13k what? I assume you're not in the US, UK, or Canada.

HOWEVER, assuming you have a monitor that supports 1600x1200, both the 5770 and the 460 are EXCELLENT cards. Both offer extreme value per dollar, both run very well, both are getting decent support in multi-GPU configurations.

My honest opinion would be to go for the GTX 460 1gb version. You'll need the extra memory for higher resolutions, and the GTX 460 in SLi beats the 5770 in crossfire (and, that's the 768 mb 460 model beating the 1gb 5770 in crossfire).

Sources:

http://guru3d.com/article/powercolor-radeon-5770-single-slot-quad-crossfirex-review/10

http://guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-sli-review/7

 

[jeetsm]

Power supply is the generic one.I don't know how many watts. RAM is 2GB DDRII 667MHz.
currency is INR i.e.s Rs. 12000 - Rs. 13000
I was wondering I might get a reply regarding overkill. I plan to buy a new monitor too. Anyways if thats the case how about HD 5770,Its slower than GTX 460.

 

[borisof007]

A 5770 would be fine. You're still definitely going to want to check on your PSU to see what amount of wattage is being put out in addition to the amperage. You might need to do a PSU and Monitor upgrade along with your GPU.

 

[Tamz_msc]

If you're going to get a new monitor and a new Graphics card along with it, you must do something about that CPU.It is pretty slow by today's standards.Unless you overclock ( but not on a generic PSU), you will not get any benefit from the latest Graphics cards.I would wait a few months, save more and get a new CPU.

 

[skolpo]

Well, then you need a decent power supply to run either card. I'd recommend this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

Go for the GTX 460 1GB IMO. Some games will benefit from having the better card. Also, what operating system are you running? If you have a 64-bit OS, getting more RAM wouldn't hurt.

 

[Tamz_msc]

Well, then you need a decent power supply to run either card. I'd recommend this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

Go for the GTX 460 1GB IMO. Some games will benefit from having the better card. Also, what operating system are you running? If you have a 64-bit OS, getting more RAM wouldn't hurt.

He has a five year old CPU that will bottleneck a 460, unless he overclocks it.And I don't think that Athlons from that time were good for overclocking.

 

[skolpo]

Yes, I suggested overclocking in my original post. And if it can't overclock too well, then clearly he'll need a better system. But if he can get it to around 2.6 or 2.7GHz, the CPU won't be as much of a limit as it is now.

 

[jeetsm]

yes i agree about HD 5770. but what I've read about it on various sites like overclockers,tomshardware,bit-tech,guru3d is that it can't face some of the mentioned games at 1600x1200 with a playable framerate.N considering I would be going for a monitor change too as soon as i get the GPU,I'll sure be hitting that resolution.

 

[Tamz_msc]

I think he has this motherboard:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2439#
And it supports the Phenom II X4 940 and 920.
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=2439.

But those are pretty hard to find now, so a new CPU+motherboard is required.

 

[jeetsm]

then suggest a good gpu for the current setup.:-(
will a hd 4770 be requiring a power supply.but then its costly considering its not dx11 n a 5750 here is available for 7500 n 4770 for arnd 7k.i cant decide :-( plz help

 

[decode]

I'd suggest you get a new 5770 + power supply + a new athlon II 250(minimum) or a phenom X3 if its compatible...

You should be able to get that for your budget.

I recommend a OCZ 500w ModXstream for the PSU.

It might be a better idea to partition the 1TB drive into 33% OS 67% DATA and then use the 160 for DATA also.

This should greatly improve your PC.

 

[Aneesh@4GHz]

the XFX hd5770 is 9k in india and a corsair cx400 will cost 3k,total 12K

 

[Tamz_msc]

then suggest a good gpu for the current setup.:-(
will a hd 4770 be requiring a power supply.but then its costly considering its not dx11 n a 5750 here is available for 7500 n 4770 for arnd 7k.i cant decide :-( plz help

Can you confirm that the motherboard in my link IS the one you have?If it is so, then there are not many upgrade options with it.

 

[jeetsm]

Can you confirm that the motherboard in my link IS the one you have?If it is so, then there are not many upgrade options with it.

Yes u have hit the jackpot. i mean that's the motherboard i have it. hey dont be that hard,i mean there must be some options otherwise i would have to change the motherboard too.

 

[Tamz_msc]

Yes u have hit the jackpot. i mean that's the motherboard i have it. hey dont be that hard,i mean there must be some options otherwise i would have to change the motherboard too.

As I said , the Phenom II x4 920 is the most powerful CPU that your motherboard supports.It might be difficult to find in India since its an old chip.If you plan to buy it, try to save more to include a PSU in your budget because 12000 rupees is not going to buy you much.

 

[jeetsm]

I'd suggest you get a new 5770 + power supply + a new athlon II 250(minimum) or a phenom X3 if its compatible...

You should be able to get that for your budget.

I recommend a OCZ 500w ModXstream for the PSU.

It might be a better idea to partition the 1TB drive into 33% OS 67% DATA and then use the 160 for DATA also.

This should greatly improve your PC.

thanks thats a really nice pairing of things. considering it too

 

[jeetsm]

http://www.costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf


skolpo,Tamz_msc,borisof007,decode & Aneesh@4GHz , plz check the above link. Its a pdf file containing the prices. n tell me about the cpu to pair up with hd 5770. I liked it and wanted to buy it but now considering 460 so think of that too. cz seeing 5770's performance in metro2033 it won't last for more than a year n its already 1 year old.460 is fresh.

 

[jeetsm]

One more thing I agree with you all that choosing one of these cards might be an overkill but getting just an adequate card and then upgrading it again after some months wont also be any good.I can build my system around a powerful gpu when its still new. what do you all say to that???

 

[decode]

That may be the better idea.

Purchase atleast a 460 1GB now, or wait until the 6770's are out and then re-evaluate what you wish to purchase. in this time you should have obtained more funds to start on a new build. I suggest going with a intel i7-760, However a AMD option would be cheaper, easier to upgrade and not significantly slower.

 

[jeetsm]

hello all,
There are 2 versions of gtx 460 from Palit:
Palit GF GTX460 Sonic 1GB DDR-5
Palit GF GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB DDR-5
and 2 from Zotac:
Zotac Geforce GTX460 768MB DDR-5
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 460 1GB DDR-5

I am in favour of Zotac 1GB, what do you all guys think?

You can have a look at this link: http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?ukey=search

 

[Tamz_msc]

Are those the only GTX 460s that you can find?Couldn't you get the MSI GTX 460 Cyclone 1GB?If not, then I'd say Zotac.