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Last year my daughter got one, integrating a family with 3 Windows
notebooks, a Windows desktop and a wireless router. When we took it out of
the box, it found the wireless router and downloaded updates while we were
still reading the manual. We put MS Office on it and transferred all her
files from her old computer. Everything worked pretty much as advertised.
I can't see that much difference between it and Wintel machines anymore,
UNLESS you have an application that only runs on one platform or the other,
EXCEPT:
1. Viruses and worms are less of a problem on the iBook.
2. The local Apple store is much more friendly and helpful with repairs
than your typical retail store that sells Windows laptops.
3. The top-of-the-line iBook is underpowered relative to a top-of-the-line
Windows laptop. And there are a lot more options with Windows.
4. But the typical iBook is pretty similar to the typical Windows laptop
configuration.
5. The 12" iBook is cheaper than most decent 12" Windows laptops--where you
pay more of a premium for portablility.
So, if you just want a nicely portable machine to run Office apps and basic
stuff, the 12" iBook is a pretty good deal. But if you have specific
Windows applications or need a lot of compute-power, it probably won't work
as well as a high-end Windows configuration.
"Veritech" <avis.dalrymple@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Thinking about getting a 12" ibook
> what are the pros and cons vs a pc notebook, (battery life etc.)
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> "Blu-Ray"
> 2600+Sempron (O/C @2.046Ghz)
> 512Mb DDR 400
> 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540)
> Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb
> Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu
>
>
>
Archived from groups: comp.sys.laptops (More info?)
Thanks alot, i noticed that that it was hard to get such a small form factor
pc laptop, with those specs for those prices.
"Joe Davis" <davisexp@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Last year my daughter got one, integrating a family with 3 Windows
> notebooks, a Windows desktop and a wireless router. When we took it out
> of the box, it found the wireless router and downloaded updates while we
> were still reading the manual. We put MS Office on it and transferred all
> her files from her old computer. Everything worked pretty much as
> advertised. I can't see that much difference between it and Wintel
> machines anymore, UNLESS you have an application that only runs on one
> platform or the other, EXCEPT:
>
> 1. Viruses and worms are less of a problem on the iBook.
> 2. The local Apple store is much more friendly and helpful with repairs
> than your typical retail store that sells Windows laptops.
> 3. The top-of-the-line iBook is underpowered relative to a
> top-of-the-line Windows laptop. And there are a lot more options with
> Windows.
> 4. But the typical iBook is pretty similar to the typical Windows laptop
> configuration.
> 5. The 12" iBook is cheaper than most decent 12" Windows laptops--where
> you pay more of a premium for portablility.
>
> So, if you just want a nicely portable machine to run Office apps and
> basic stuff, the 12" iBook is a pretty good deal. But if you have
> specific Windows applications or need a lot of compute-power, it probably
> won't work as well as a high-end Windows configuration.
>
>
>
> "Veritech" <avis.dalrymple@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:rhoKd.72$Qf6.64@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>> Thinking about getting a 12" ibook
>> what are the pros and cons vs a pc notebook, (battery life etc.)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> "Blu-Ray"
>> 2600+Sempron (O/C @2.046Ghz)
>> 512Mb DDR 400
>> 9600 pro 128 (O/C @ 425/540)
>> Gigabyte 7VT600P-RZ mobo with 400mhz fsb
>> Raidmax cobra case with 420w psu
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Archived from groups: comp.sys.laptops (More info?)
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:37:48 GMT, "Joe Davis" <davisexp@attglobal.net>
wrote:
>I can't see that much difference between it and Wintel machines anymore,
>UNLESS you have an application that only runs on one platform or the other,
>EXCEPT:
I agree with every single point.
I would add one thing though. A photographer friend of mine recently
remarked to me how Wintel screens look better than Apple's. He was
saying with Apples, unless you look at it straight on, the viewing
angles are wider with some Wintels he's seen. He's a MacHead so I
don't think he's biased. Now he's deep into photography where color
accuracy is paramount. so perhaps for us wordprocessing Joes it won't
matter to us.
Archived from groups: comp.sys.laptops (More info?)
I had the chance to compare my IBMT40 14.1" screen with a 14" (ish?) iBook
monitor. I have to say that I thought the viewing angle would be worse than
my thinkpad, mainly because I'd seen the screens in Dixons and thought they
didn't look as good, but actually, I think they are pretty similar.
However, the iBooks screen has a funny glistening quality to it -
particularly when you move your head, whereas the thinkpad's screen is
purely flat-looking. Also, at extreme angles, the ibook's tends to invert
the colours, whereas the thinkpad just tends to get darker.
I would agree with the posts so far comparing the machines - my friend paid
much less for a laptop with very similar specifications to me. (Of course,
it isn't a thinkpad, but you can't have everything). Other things to note
are:
1. The iBook looks great
2. The polycarbonate shell is tougher than most laptops, (though it
scratches very easily)
3. If you want to use it without the battery, you lose one of the four
stands for the laptop
4. OS-X is quite a joy to use. I don't actually think it's any more
reliable than XP, but it carries on the MacOS feeling that the interface is
actually quite loveable.
5. Apple's warranty isn't that great - they normally only give you 30 days
warranty(applecare) - you're on your own after that. With my laptop I was
given 3 years standard.
Duncan.
"bobb" <None@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:37:48 GMT, "Joe Davis" <davisexp@attglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I can't see that much difference between it and Wintel machines anymore,
>>UNLESS you have an application that only runs on one platform or the
>>other,
>>EXCEPT:
>
>
> I agree with every single point.
>
> I would add one thing though. A photographer friend of mine recently
> remarked to me how Wintel screens look better than Apple's. He was
> saying with Apples, unless you look at it straight on, the viewing
> angles are wider with some Wintels he's seen. He's a MacHead so I
> don't think he's biased. Now he's deep into photography where color
> accuracy is paramount. so perhaps for us wordprocessing Joes it won't
> matter to us.
>
Archived from groups: comp.sys.laptops (More info?)
Duncan J Murray wrote:
> 5. Apple's warranty isn't that great - they normally only give you 30
days
> warranty(applecare) - you're on your own after that. With my laptop
I was
> given 3 years standard.
Depends where you live. Apple in the UK offer a 1 year warranty, and
if you buy from a branch of John Lewis you get a two year warranty,
world wide, on site. On top of that, the Sale of Goods act and the
Contracts (unfair provisions) act prevent them weaseling out of things.
I know someone who got a screen replaced after 3 years because the
failure (a connector) was not "normal wear and tear" but obvoiusly
faulty from the beginning. http://tinyurl.co.uk/jq5z
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Duncan J Murray wrote:
> I had the chance to compare my IBMT40 14.1" screen with a 14" (ish?) iBook
> monitor. I have to say that I thought the viewing angle would be worse
> than my thinkpad, mainly because I'd seen the screens in Dixons and
> thought they didn't look as good, but actually, I think they are pretty
> similar. However, the iBooks screen has a funny glistening quality to it -
> particularly when you move your head, whereas the thinkpad's screen is
> purely flat-looking. Also, at extreme angles, the ibook's tends to invert
> the colours, whereas the thinkpad just tends to get darker.
>
> I would agree with the posts so far comparing the machines - my friend
> paid
> much less for a laptop with very similar specifications to me. (Of
> course,
> it isn't a thinkpad, but you can't have everything). Other things to note
> are:
>
> 1. The iBook looks great
> 2. The polycarbonate shell is tougher than most laptops, (though it
> scratches very easily)
> 3. If you want to use it without the battery, you lose one of the four
> stands for the laptop
> 4. OS-X is quite a joy to use. I don't actually think it's any more
> reliable than XP, but it carries on the MacOS feeling that the interface
> is actually quite loveable.
> 5. Apple's warranty isn't that great - they normally only give you 30 days
> warranty(applecare) - you're on your own after that. With my laptop I was
> given 3 years standard.
Are you sure you're not confusing warranty and "support"? The Apple
warranty, in the US, is one year, but they also give 90 days of technical
support for non-warranty issues.
> Duncan.
>
> "bobb" <None@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3f2lv05v19ncna2co131r5p0m2693f174c@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:37:48 GMT, "Joe Davis" <davisexp@attglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I can't see that much difference between it and Wintel machines anymore,
>>>UNLESS you have an application that only runs on one platform or the
>>>other,
>>>EXCEPT:
>>
>>
>> I agree with every single point.
>>
>> I would add one thing though. A photographer friend of mine recently
>> remarked to me how Wintel screens look better than Apple's. He was
>> saying with Apples, unless you look at it straight on, the viewing
>> angles are wider with some Wintels he's seen. He's a MacHead so I
>> don't think he's biased. Now he's deep into photography where color
>> accuracy is paramount. so perhaps for us wordprocessing Joes it won't
>> matter to us.
>>
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--John
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