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November 17, 2010 11:07:08 PM

Hello everybody
I'm in need for your advice regarding my New Rig which I’m right now preparing to buy:
Specifications:
• CPU: Intel Core i7-950
• Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
• RAM: Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB
• CPU Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro H70
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
• Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black
• PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 850W
• GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 580
Please note my doubts below:
1- I'm planning to overclock to 4 GHZ stable (24/7) as I’m using heaving applications for my work specifically (GNS3 (Cisco router emulation software) + VMware) and they are CPU and RAM intensive so is this i7-950 the right choice along with can i achieve stable overclocking with it to 4 GHZ. (Note that I can't afford Core i7-980X)

2- I'm confused about between these two motherboards Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and ASUS Rampage III Extreme and although Asus Rampage III is more expensive but in reviews they are not much recommended but Gigabyte x58A is recommended in most reviews.

3- This Patriot Gamer Series 6GB I didn't find reviews on them for triple channel memory and I’m worried that these memory would destroy my overclocking. I need suggestions form you experts.

4- This PSU is 850W to be ready for SLI but I'm Worried about brand is this Cooler master good in PSU.

5- I not going to buy this Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 right now simply because it hasn't been released in my country yet but once it is there i will buy it. So based on this is the above mentioned motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is ideal for this card and for future SLI design.

6- Finally the CORSAIR Hydro H70, I heard that it a cool wonderful one but I discovered just yesterday that Noctua NH-D14 just dominate this H70 and cheaper also but my concern is that Noctua NH-D14 is bulky and may not allow me install these RAM (Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB) as they have tall heat spreaders and may not fit under Noctua NH-D14, HELP PLEASE

PLEASE ANY ONE HAS GENERAL SUGGESTIONS OVER THE COMPONENT PLEASE SHARE YOUR OPINION

:) 

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November 18, 2010 12:54:12 AM

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1- I'm planning to overclock to 4 GHZ stable (24/7) as I’m using heaving applications for my work specifically (GNS3 (Cisco router emulation software) + VMware) and they are CPU and RAM intensive so is this i7-950 the right choice along with can i achieve stable overclocking with it to 4 GHZ. (Note that I can't afford Core i7-980X)
hmm, maybe Xeon/quadro....

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2- I'm confused about between these two motherboards Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and ASUS Rampage III Extreme and although Asus Rampage III is more expensive but in reviews they are not much recommended but Gigabyte x58A is recommended in most reviews.
Gigabyte UD3R is a good little board, works well, ect... Rampage would probably be better for OCing....
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3- This Patriot Gamer Series 6GB I didn't find reviews on them for triple channel memory and I’m worried that these memory would destroy my overclocking. I need suggestions form you experts.
G.skill, or MAYBE mushkin on RAM.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.skill 6 gig ram

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4- This PSU is 850W to be ready for SLI but I'm Worried about brand is this Cooler master good in PSU.
SLI ready doesn't mean it can do your system... 850 is probably enough..
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5- I not going to buy this Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 right now simply because it hasn't been released in my country yet but once it is there i will buy it. So based on this is the above mentioned motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is ideal for this card and for future SLI design.
mmkay... probably....


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6- Finally the CORSAIR Hydro H70, I heard that it a cool wonderful one but I discovered just yesterday that Noctua NH-D14 just dominate this H70 and cheaper also but my concern is that Noctua NH-D14 is bulky and may not allow me install these RAM (Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB) as they have tall heat spreaders and may not fit under Noctua NH-D14, HELP PLEASE
hrrrrr I don't really know, I'm sorry, if you don't have experience with LC, don't use it.... Try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Hyper 212 ~ 30$


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HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Spintpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 69.99


Also an SSD might be considered....
Mushkin SSD (60gig) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 129.99
November 18, 2010 1:02:19 AM

bonozz said:
Hello everybody
I'm in need for your advice regarding my New Rig which I’m right now preparing to buy:
Specifications:
• CPU: Intel Core i7-950
• Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
• RAM: Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB
• CPU Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro H70
• HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
• Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black
• PSU: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 850W
• GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 580
Please note my doubts below:
1- I'm planning to overclock to 4 GHZ stable (24/7) as I’m using heaving applications for my work specifically (GNS3 (Cisco router emulation software) + VMware) and they are CPU and RAM intensive so is this i7-950 the right choice along with can i achieve stable overclocking with it to 4 GHZ. (Note that I can't afford Core i7-980X)

2- I'm confused about between these two motherboards Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and ASUS Rampage III Extreme and although Asus Rampage III is more expensive but in reviews they are not much recommended but Gigabyte x58A is recommended in most reviews.

3- This Patriot Gamer Series 6GB I didn't find reviews on them for triple channel memory and I’m worried that these memory would destroy my overclocking. I need suggestions form you experts.

4- This PSU is 850W to be ready for SLI but I'm Worried about brand is this Cooler master good in PSU.

5- I not going to buy this Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 right now simply because it hasn't been released in my country yet but once it is there i will buy it. So based on this is the above mentioned motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is ideal for this card and for future SLI design.

6- Finally the CORSAIR Hydro H70, I heard that it a cool wonderful one but I discovered just yesterday that Noctua NH-D14 just dominate this H70 and cheaper also but my concern is that Noctua NH-D14 is bulky and may not allow me install these RAM (Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB) as they have tall heat spreaders and may not fit under Noctua NH-D14, HELP PLEASE

PLEASE ANY ONE HAS GENERAL SUGGESTIONS OVER THE COMPONENT PLEASE SHARE YOUR OPINION

:) 


1. I think the 750 can OC to 4.0Ghz without much of a problem (I'm not an expert on Ocing i7 950, i know about Ocin i5's :p ). Also are you a network administrator/engineer? I'm just curious because I run Cisco Router Simulators and will be getting my CCNA in Feb. :D .

2.The Asus Rampage is overpriced.. I think you'd be fine with with the gigabyte.

3. Get the G.skill Ripjaw series instead they have a heatsink but its small, and they OC well.

4. I personally wouldn't buy a Cooler Master PSU. Corsair, XFX, Antec, Seasonic.

5. Yeap no problem.

6. I'd def get the Noctua. and refer to answer 3.
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November 18, 2010 9:15:41 AM

Atotalnoob said:
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1- I'm planning to overclock to 4 GHZ stable (24/7) as I’m using heaving applications for my work specifically (GNS3 (Cisco router emulation software) + VMware) and they are CPU and RAM intensive so is this i7-950 the right choice along with can i achieve stable overclocking with it to 4 GHZ. (Note that I can't afford Core i7-980X)
hmm, maybe Xeon/quadro....
I'm a litttle confused about your answer here (Xeon/Quadro) as Xeon is Intel Processors designed for servers and the equivelant ones to Core i7 are expensive and they are not Compatible with most motherboards. For Quadro which is Nvidia Solution for Graphic professionals which I'm not (I'm a Senior Network Engineer) so i think i will stick to core i7 family

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2- I'm confused about between these two motherboards Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R and ASUS Rampage III Extreme and although Asus Rampage III is more expensive but in reviews they are not much recommended but Gigabyte x58A is recommended in most reviews.
Gigabyte UD3R is a good little board, works well, ect... Rampage would probably be better for OCing.... (you are right so I think Gigabyte is better Bargain for me)
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3- This Patriot Gamer Series 6GB I didn't find reviews on them for triple channel memory and I’m worried that these memory would destroy my overclocking. I need suggestions form you experts.
G.skill, or MAYBE mushkin on RAM.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.skill 6 gig ram ( hmmOk sure but G.SKILL PI Series 6GB I can see they have tall heat spreaders here again I’m afraid that this will make problem when I use Noctua NH-D14 )

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4- This PSU is 850W to be ready for SLI but I'm Worried about brand is this Cooler master good in PSU.
SLI ready doesn't mean it can do your system... 850 is probably enough.. (yes agree 850W is enoug but Cooler Master Brand is not common trusted)
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5- I not going to buy this Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 right now simply because it hasn't been released in my country yet but once it is there i will buy it. So based on this is the above mentioned motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R is ideal for this card and for future SLI design.
mmkay... probably....


Quote:
6- Finally the CORSAIR Hydro H70, I heard that it a cool wonderful one but I discovered just yesterday that Noctua NH-D14 just dominate this H70 and cheaper also but my concern is that Noctua NH-D14 is bulky and may not allow me install these RAM (Patriot Gamer Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 1600 MHZ FSB) as they have tall heat spreaders and may not fit under Noctua NH-D14, HELP PLEASE
hrrrrr I don't really know, I'm sorry, if you don't have experience with LC, don't use it.... Try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Hyper 212 ~ 30$
I don't have experience with LC but this isn't much concern for me as H70 is a closed Loop and needs zero maintenance and easy to install but most reviews told that Noctua NH-D14 is cooling better and Air based not LC the only problems with it is being bulky

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HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Spintpoint F3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 69.99
Thanks for advising this Spintpoint F3 as it was recommended in many reviews i shall consider it ;) 

Also an SSD might be considered.... (Expensive, may be later)
Mushkin SSD (60gig) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 129.99

November 18, 2010 9:49:29 AM

vindictive said:
1. I think the 750 can OC to 4.0Ghz without much of a problem (I'm not an expert on Ocing i7 950, i know about Ocin i5's :p ). Also are you a network administrator/engineer? I'm just curious because I run Cisco Router Simulators and will be getting my CCNA in Feb. :D .
I have seen some video on Overclocking 950 not much hard, yes i working a senior network engineer and preparing to take CCIE R&S this year that why i need GNS3 (based on dynamips) to run the CCIE LAB Routers (15 -20 routers) ... which was pretty impossible with Dual Core which i currently have when i took CCNA and CCNP......Good luck for your CCNA
2.The Asus Rampage is overpriced.. I think you'd be fine with with the gigabyte. I do agree

3. Get the G.skill Ripjaw series instead they have a heatsink but its small, and they OC well. (sure but G.SKILL PI Series 6GB i can see they have tall heat spreaders here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-231-...


4. I personally wouldn't buy a Cooler Master PSU. Corsair, XFX, Antec, Seasonic. (yes i trust CORSAIR i will see availability)
5. Yeap no problem.

6. I'd def get the Noctua. and refer to answer 3.Yes Noctua NH-D14 is better but RAM must not be tall
November 18, 2010 2:55:33 PM

Case / PSU - I'd recommend the HAF-X over the 932 or even better the DF-85. Having just done builds with both the 932 and DF-85, I'll be doing no more 932 builds. Of course stying is a big part of case selection and ya like what ya like. If you must get an HAF consider this Case / MoBo / PSU combo for $600:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

If you'd consider the DF-85 (it was the air filters, external Hot-Swap SSD port and CPX PSU form factor capability that lead the way for me) pairing it with the CP-850 is a "no brainer".

MoBo - The two builds I just completed both had the Asus Rampage III Extreme. It would seem that you have no need for more than two PCI-E slots so I'd recommend the Sabertooth if that's all ya need.

RAM - The Patriot Gamer Series @ $139 is a bit steep for CAS 9 RAM. Unless you research and find a set of RAM in the THG articles which will let ya run CAS 9 RAM at 7 or better, I'd invest a few dollars more in a low CAS rating. here's some chocies:

CAS 7 $134 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 7 $139 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CAS 6 $169 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The H series coolers have a nice gimmick with the faux water cooling but they come up a bit short compared to the best air coolers which don't impact case air flow as the H series does. Pick of the top here:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Note that the best choice depends on what CPU being used:

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In previous tests with the i7-920 at 3.8GHz, the Megahalems consistently out-cooled the Venomous-X while the Mugen 2 trailed them both. This time we used an i7-930 at 4.0GHz, and the Venomous-X beats the Mugen 2 which is trailed by Megahalems. It's madness!


Add some TIM to your order. Shin Etsu tops the benchmarkreviews.com 80 way TIM test.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As others gave said, take the Spinpoint F3 over the WD. Take the 7200.12 if it's at is every other week $55 newegg cost.

Consider twin 470 GTX's The superclocked versions from EVGA were only $243 a cupla days ago.

As to your doubts:

1. The is a great overclocking guide on Asus site. 4 GHz is no problem. One nice thing about the Rampage is it's ability to save multiple overlclocking profiles. I set the aforementioned builds up with a BCLK of 160 and 10x memory multiplier for 24/7/365 usage. But we also made several gaming OC profiles with 4.0 - 4.3 GHz. These are selected during boot with a viset to the BIOS where the other profiles are selected from a stored list. Here's the OC link:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=2008122019104023...

2-
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although Asus Rampage III is more expensive but in reviews they are not much recommended but Gigabyte x58A is recommended in most reviews.


You hit the nail on the head. Price figures in a lot to these recommendations. I prefer the Asus R3E and Sabertooth over the Giga counterparts, with at least some of that coming from the satisfaction with Asus support over the years.

3- Dump the patriots and get one of the ones linked above.

4- Four 850 wattere shave gotten a 10.0 performance rating at jonnyguru.com and they are the Antec SG-850, Antec CP-850, Corsair HX850 and XFX Black Edition 850. The CP-850 and SG-850 also won Editor's Choice awards at silentpcreview.com

5- You can get two 470's cheaper right now, they outperform the 580 and these are available today everywhere.

6- Most of the reviews ranking the Noctua high it seems were done using 775 CPUs for 'consistency"
with older tests. The benchmark reviews site, though retest all the older heat sinks with new CPU's. As indicated above, the Quarter 2 results (920) ranked the three best in order of Megahalems, Thermalright Venomous-X RT, Scythe Mugen-2 SCMG-2100. With the 930 CPU however, it was Thermalright Venomous-X RT, Scythe Mugen-2 SCMG-2100, ProlimaTech Megahalems. I don't think ya can go wrong with any of the three but you'll notice the H series from Corsair is no where in the list. Note that each quartelry review includes actual testing of 10 or so "new coolers". The rankings however are based on all cumulative tests. See the closing comments in the benchmarkreviews article here:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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I've recommended a lot of air cooling products over the past few years, but I think it's finally time to suggest a few liquid cooling solutions. I like the Corsair Hydro H50 we previously tested, but for $80 this re-branded cooling solution offers none of the monitoring features or functionality that a $65 Domino ALC system does. Although the ECO R-120 is essentially the same as a Hydro H50, but for $72 you get the same performance for less money. It's so frustrating to see consumers purchase their products based on name recognition instead of performance. This appears to be the case with Corsair's Hydro H70 ALC for $105, which is just an H50 with larger radiator and lacks any of the monitoring and feedback display you get with the $106 Vantage. This isn't a company endorsement, it's just common sense.


November 18, 2010 3:12:35 PM

JackNaylorPE said:

4- Four 850 wattere shave gotten a 10.0 performance rating at jonnyguru.com and they are the Antec SG-850, Antec CP-850, Corsair HX850 and XFX Black Edition 850. The CP-850 and SG-850 also won Editor's Choice awards at silentpcreview.com

it was the XFX 750 BE idk about the 850 cuz I haven't looked it up :p  http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=184
but nice post, very detailed.
November 18, 2010 4:03:13 PM

1) REally m8 get the Haf X or Obsidian 800D. you will be better offf..

2) Do remember Gigabyte UD3R with SSD + RAID = Fail!!! that is something not many people are aware of.

3) The Asus Rampage III is no where near the UD3R. its different all together.......
For 24/7 OC.... i nthe same range the Asus Sabertooth x58 is really good..with 5 year warranty...... also check out MSI big bang xpower and the Asus Formula III Extreme....

4) An ssd will give added benefit...

5) Its better you search for a Seasonic X series 850 watts psu...... its cheaper and better than CM and its Modular...... better build quality and longer life
November 19, 2010 10:08:24 AM

Thanks Guys for advising especially for JackNaylorPE for his extensive detailed post and here are my final component choices:

CPU : Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Item #: N82E16819115211 $294.99

MotherBoard : GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128423 $209.99

RAM : CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX6GX3M3C1600C7
Item #: N82E16820145286 $139.99 (One Recommended by JackNaylorPE )

HDD : SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152185 $69.99 (recommeneded by atotalnoob)

CASE : COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black RC-932-KWN3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Side window
Item #: N82E16811119230 $139.99 (actually HAF X is little Expensive )

PSU : CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139011 $169.99

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835608018 $74.99 (i found it is recommended in all reviews and even pick up as editor's choice)

Here 3 doubts:
1- difference GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 and ASUS Sabertooth X58 as they are almost the same range in terms of overclocking and Muti-GPU and etc.
2-Does any body know if Noctua NH-D14 fits inside HAF 932 ??
3- for
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Consider twin 470 GTX's The superclocked versions from EVGA were only $243 a cupla days ago.

I found many GTX 470 on newegg from different vendors all them overclocked but which is the best of them (EVGA, MSI , Gigabyte, Zotac, Palit, Asus, ....)
November 19, 2010 3:49:40 PM

Please put spaces in your posts....
November 19, 2010 5:36:29 PM

reaper2794 said:
Please put spaces in your posts....

thanks
November 19, 2010 6:37:25 PM

there is bad news Guys Newegg doesn't ship internationally as i'm in UAE .....i'm doomed because not all these stuff are available in UAE
November 19, 2010 6:56:00 PM

ahhh that stinks...

ummm, is there a local computer shhop you can ask? (I dunno in UAE....) they might be willing to supply some stuff, or have an idea were to ask/go to
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