First Build advice?

[DexPC]

My questions are:

Do i need a large PSU?

&

Since the Motherboard already has onboard graphics, am I able have two cards , ( onboard & Radeon HD 5850 ) and how will this affect the machine?

And you opinions?

MotherBoard
GIGABYTE 880GA-UD3H AM3 DDR3 1866+ Six-Core Processor Ready, 880G +SB850, SATA 3.0 & USB 3.0 RAID, HD4250 Hybrid CrossFireX ready, HDMI/DVI/

CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 965

Monitor
AOC 21.5" Widescreen LED Monitor

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3

Case
Aerocool Performance Gaming Case

GPU
XFX HD-585A-ZNDC XXX EDITION Radeon HD 5850

HD
Western Digital 500GB, 32MB Cache, 7200rpm, Caviar Black, SATA 3 Gb/s

PSU
COOLER MASTER GX 650W PSU Single +12V rail for up to 52A

THANKS

 

[red slayer]

No just use the 5850and the PSU is fine

 

[kkiddu]

TDP of GFX card + TDP of processor + 150W is a good approximation of your CPU's peak power demand.

If you plan on upgrading components and not the PSU in near future, I'd suggest you buy a higher capacity PSU.

If you have a graphics card, the onboard graphics won't be used.

Earlier there used to be CrossFireX that used both the onboard GPU + Card to process graphics although I don't think anybody uses that now. Do check if your card is compatible with it.

The configuration seems fine, although.

 

[p1n3apqlexpr3ss]

Just wondering, but why a 5850? Why not get a 6850 or 6870?

And nah, the 650 will be fine for you

You mean hybird crossfire? Pointless for the 5850, only useful for low low low end cards

 

[aznshinobi]

I have a couple things, if you are getting it off Newegg, the WD Black 500gb is good. But you could save a few bucks by getting the Samsung F3 500gb. The WD Black is good. But the platter size for the SATA 3 vers. is smaller than the platter sizes of the F3's which is 500gb. The WD black platter is only 320gb. So... I recommend getting the Samsung F3 500gb, save a few bucks and better drive overall.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=F3%20500gb

Another thing, the VGA card. If you plan to OC that card, then I don't suggest you get that card. Sure it is good, but that specific version won't be able overclock/voltage change. Plus it'll run hot since it's based off the reference design. But a little XFX tweak on it. This card'll cost you a few more bucks (15$ more) but it'll allow you to OC and voltage tweak as well as run much cooler. Still the cost after rebate is just as cheap.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121375&cm_re=5850_directcu-_-14-121-375-_-Product

But if you don't plan to OC then that card the XFX one is good enough.

Your PSU is good, but I don't recommend the CM Extreme series PSU's heard they break down fast and aren't very great PSU's in general. I recommend the same priced PSU's and from CM as well cept these are 80+ cert. and modular.

700w version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037&Tpk=Silent%20Pro%20700w

600w version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036&cm_re=cooler_master_silent_pro_600-_-17-171-036-_-Product

 

[aznshinobi]

Oh and your mobo... That mobo based on Newegg pricing of course, is a bit expensive. Plus it only runs 16x/4x (4x isn't terrible but it's just if you ever plan to CF or something it'll fail kinda) Umm I recommend this board. Same things as it has SATA 6 and USB 3. Plus it'll run 8x/8x which is better than 16x/4x.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198&cm_re=Asrock_870-_-13-157-198-_-Product

The brand isn't bad... Maybe some others will say it is, but as of now, Asrock makes some pretty good boards, specially for budget builds. I also recommend dropping the 965 and getting a 955 just to save some cash, as the stock HSF on the deneb chips could easily OC the 955 to the 965's stock clocks of 3.4.

 

[DexPC]

Would you recommend replacing the 5850 with a Sapphire HD6870 or Sapphire HD6850 ?

 

[aznshinobi]

Well... do you plan on Crossfiring? IF not, then stick with the 5850. IF you do, then get the 6850. Not the Sapphire one but the Asus DirectCu one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121399&Tpk=DirectCu%206850

BTW Don't listen to them, some companies just like to keep mentioning "Hybrid CF" It'll do normal CF like all boards. Oh and the 5850 is by no means a slouch it is one of the best cards you can get for the price point. Single card wise, a great option. The only thing the 6850 has over the 5850 is during crossfire the 6850 scales better. But OCing-wise and single card performance wise the 5850 edges out or beats it in most things.

 

[varis]

The 5850 seems to have a bit more performance than 6850, but it comes with a higher price tag too, and the 6850 has some 20W lower power requirement at peak power, too. It seems perfect for my build: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/298615-13-decisions-range-intel-gaming You are probably aiming for a plain gaming/performance build (you gave us very little info on what you plan to do with the rig ), so you could have a look at the 6870 too, which could give you better FPS than the others mentioned.