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Help me upgrade my 9800GTX+

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September 27, 2010 8:36:27 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: ( this week BUDGET RANGE: USD $150-350) Before / After Rebates

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: ( Gaming,I play a variety of games from EvE to high end first person shooters.currently I have F1 2010 and it runs well but also want to play future more demanding sims. ]

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: BFG9800Gtx+ 1gig Power Supply=Antec 750w

CPU=AMD720 ocd 3.2ghz
Cpu Cooling= Corsair H50
Mainboard= Asus M4A79XTD EVO
RAM=2x2Ocz Gold =4gig

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com or BestBuy.com=have a $50 gift card that i need to use or it will go bad :D 
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN:USA

PARTS PREFERENCES:Either Ati5770 or nvidia460

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Samsung24in 1920x1080

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: My biggest question is - Will the 5770 or the 460 be enough on my system to run the new games at max res or will I need more? Also will I see a bottleneck with the processor because of the upgrade?

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Twitchn

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September 27, 2010 8:43:10 PM

the GTX 460 1GB would be a nice upgrade for you and give you plenty of performance at 1080p.

here is a review
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nv...
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September 27, 2010 8:56:21 PM

I wouldn't buy computer hardware outside of peripherals and accessories from Best Buy though, even with a $50 gift card. You can get a GTX 460 1GB online from sites such as Newegg and TigerDirect for the same price as you would from Best Buy+ the $50 Gift Card (assuming they even carry the GTX 460). I'd say pick up a card online and then use the $50 Gift card to pick up an awesome game or a new keyboard or mouse or even speakers for your system. You'll be happier in the end =).
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September 27, 2010 9:02:16 PM

skolpo said:
I wouldn't buy computer hardware outside of peripherals and accessories from Best Buy though, even with a $50 gift card. You can get a GTX 460 1GB online from sites such as Newegg and TigerDirect for the same price as you would from Best Buy+ the $50 Gift Card (assuming they even carry the GTX 460). I'd say pick up a card online and then use the $50 Gift card to pick up an awesome game or a new keyboard or mouse or even speakers for your system. You'll be happier in the end =).


I think you are right as I always buy from Newegg and will be doing that with this purchase. My main concern is the the bottleneck issue. Will my processor be enough as I believe it will but I was wondering what others thought.
Thank you for your responses.
P.S.
What about a AtI 5850?

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Twitchn
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September 27, 2010 9:08:52 PM

For the most part, I think your CPU is fine. It'll last until you're really itching to upgrade your entire system. As for the ATi HD 5850, it's a great option also. However, seeing that you have a 750W power supply, you can even consider getting two GTX 460s 768MB (1GB if you're willing to spend just a tad more) in SLi. Then, we might revert back to your CPU "bottleneck" problem. Even so, it shouldn't be much of an issue but a system upgrade definitely wouldn't hurt.
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September 27, 2010 9:11:50 PM

If your choice is between a 5770 and a 460, I'll recommend the 460.

If your choice is between the 460 and a 5850, I'll recommend the 5850.

A 5850 will definitely keep up with anything you want it to do. I don't think your CPU will bottle neck you too bad with a 460 or a 5850.

NOTE: Your motherboard has a 790 chipset, which is built for Crossfire, not SLi. If you buy an Nvidia card and want to SLi, you'll have to buy a new mobo/CPU.
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September 27, 2010 9:12:56 PM

twitchn said:
I think you are right as I always buy from Newegg and will be doing that with this purchase. My main concern is the the bottleneck issue. Will my processor be enough as I believe it will but I was wondering what others thought.
Thank you for your responses.
P.S.
What about a AtI 5850?

Cheers
Twitchn


if you look at the review I linked, the ATI 5850 is a better card but depending on the price may not be worth the step up.

since your CPU is OC, you should have no bottleneck effect with any of these video cards. for more info here is the stock x3 720 on various games with different video cards

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/balanced-gaming-pc,...
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September 27, 2010 9:16:06 PM

borisof007 said:
If your choice is between a 5770 and a 460, I'll recommend the 460.

If your choice is between the 460 and a 5850, I'll recommend the 5850.

A 5850 will definitely keep up with anything you want it to do. I don't think your CPU will bottle neck you too bad with a 460 or a 5850.

NOTE: Your motherboard has a 790 chipset, which is built for Crossfire, not SLi. If you buy an Nvidia card and want to SLi, you'll have to buy a new mobo/CPU.



Sigh, why do I always skim through system specs! You're right, SLI is out of the option. The HD 5850 is perhaps your best choice outside of the GTX 460 1GB.
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September 27, 2010 9:18:44 PM

Yeah I'd have to agree, at least with a 5850 you could crossfire another later, those cards are pretty awesome and with the 6xxx series hopefully coming out soon, we'll see a price drop on the 5xxx series.
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September 27, 2010 9:48:18 PM

Not the second one. First one if you want to get a cheaper reliable card. Get the third one for reliable card and reliable warranty and customer service.
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September 27, 2010 9:59:25 PM

Unless you are really considering Crossfire at some point, don't sell yourself short. All the GTX470's on Newegg are less than $350, including the Gigabyte Superoverclock, which nearly matches the GTX480 in performance. Any of those cards would be superior to the mid-range products that have been mentioned so far.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Quote from Tom's Hardware: "Gigabyte’s Super Overclock card has to be the most impressive GeForce GTX 470 we’ve seen yet."
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super...

Guru3d quote: "Gigabyte balanced and fine tuned this product to acceptable heat levels hovering at roughly 80 degrees C under full stress, yet managed to create a near inaudible noise level, and that's just what the doctor ordered !"
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-...
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September 27, 2010 10:23:57 PM

I don't think he's selling himself short at all. He's just being consistent with the rest of his system. The HD 5850 should be fine at his resolution and is a good amount cheaper than the GTX 470.
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September 27, 2010 10:35:16 PM

@Matt: We covered the Nvidia thing earlier. If he wanted to go dual GPUs in the future, he'd be limited to crossfire as he's running a 790 AMD mobo. Getting an Nvidia card now might be selling himself short, regardless of performance at the moment.

Additionally, the GTX 470's are coming in at $300, the 5850's are coming in at $250, with some of them having good MIR (anywhere from $20-$50).

With that said, I'd recommend that HIS:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Good price, good brand, good card. I doubt you'll be disappointed.
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September 28, 2010 2:29:39 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150494

well honestly this one will be the quietest and the most effective cooler of the three listed the card does not get that hot and as long as you have 1 case fan
it's honestly the best buy. People dont really seem to like the egg cooler
but it is a lot more effective at cooling and it is quieter.

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October 1, 2010 11:20:31 PM

HELP!!!!
I bought a M.S.I. Hawx460 from the Egg and got it in today to replace the 9800.
Everything went well till now as windows will not recognize the card. It just sees it as a reg vga adapter. So I go to Nvidia website and let it auto detect the drivers and sure enough it sees it as a regular vga card.
What do I do?
Is it Bios related?
Any more help would be much appreciated.
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Twitchn
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October 1, 2010 11:37:38 PM

Uncommon, run a driver sweep, clear out all the old ones and then retry on nVidias website. Can you confirm the card is operational btw?

Have you been able to install the drivers in the disk provided from MSI?
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October 1, 2010 11:55:17 PM

It works now as it was a driver issue with the old drivers.
Seems great so far
Twitchn
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October 2, 2010 12:17:31 AM

Sweet, Glad we could help.
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October 12, 2010 3:10:22 AM

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October 12, 2010 3:12:07 AM

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