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September 28, 2010 3:10:48 PM

Need some advice, currently can get a Evga GTX465 (01-GP3-1467-AR) for $199 on ebay, the Evga GTX460 (01-GP3-1373-AR) lists for $249, I'm upgrading from a Evga Geforce 9800GT. The core, shader and memory clocks are 625/1250/3240 on the 465 and 763/1526/3800 on the 460. I'm thinking some of the difference could be made u by OCing the 460. Which would be the better buy? Any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.

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September 28, 2010 3:18:56 PM

GTX 460 1 GB is the better option.
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September 28, 2010 3:22:09 PM

GTX460 is a budget-performance card, so get GTX460, it MUCH better than 9800GT... :) 
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September 28, 2010 3:52:00 PM

Well if you want a 465 don't pay 199 for one on ebay that might not have a warranty, they are 199.99 on newegg after rebate. And don't compare list price to an ebay price, you can get a better 460 like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
for that same price after rebate.

I have a 465 and I'm very happy with it, it O/Ced easily to 850/1700/3600, but if the price is close or the same get the 460 1gb, it's a better card on almost all benchmarks, uses less power, and produces less heat.
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September 28, 2010 5:40:18 PM

Thanks guys, I meant from newegg, not ebay, I'm on both all the time. I guess if I pony up the extra cash a 470 is a no brainer? Any recommendations for which brand?

Thanks again.
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September 28, 2010 6:03:33 PM

benski said:
Everyone says this one is the best:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
but it aint cheap. I think the 460s are a better value right now. Whatever you do don't get a 470 with the reference cooler if you plan on doing any overclocking.

That Gigabyte Superoverclock is definitely the best GTX470. It's fast, constructed of high quality components, and has a nice cooler that is near silent and keeps the card very cool. At $349, that is the most expensive one, which I would say is worth it, but there are other GTX470's listed that you can get for less than $300. Some come with a free Mafia 2 game.
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September 28, 2010 6:08:17 PM

I tend to think 470's are overpriced presently. They're easily a $100 or more than a 460 or 465, which seems like such a wide price gap compared to the performance increase.

You haven't mentioned the rest of your system config, though. Your PSU, CPU and resolution can easily affect recommendations.
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September 28, 2010 6:17:54 PM

RazberyBandit said:
I tend to think 470's are overpriced presently. They're easily a $100 or more than a 460 or 465, which seems like such a wide price gap compared to the performance increase.

The Palit GTX470 is $269, just $19 more than the GTX460 mentioned in the first post, and it comes with a free Mafia 2 game. The GTX470 is a high end card versus the GTX460, which, despite it's relatively great performance, is still a mid-range card.
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September 28, 2010 6:32:26 PM

What I've read is that a 460 clocked at 800 mhz is equal in performance to a 470 at stock speed (607). The reference 470's like that $270 palit are obnoxiously loud and don't cool well, given the clocks people have reported getting with that cyclone my personal opinion is that the 460 is going to be close enough after overclocking that the reference 470 isn't going to be worth the extra 70+ bucks.
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September 28, 2010 7:02:11 PM

That Palit is $270 after rebate. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I can't count an MiR as the final price because they don't always come through. For my $300, I'd rather have the Gigabyte, ASUS, or MSI models. Or spend another $15 and get the eVGA. Hence, a $100 price difference.
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September 28, 2010 8:50:30 PM

The noise issue has been debunked repeatedly since the original reviews of the GTX 470/480 came out. As someone who actually owns a GTX480, if I thought it was a problem, I wouldn't recommend it to someone, and the GTX470's are even quieter. As for heat, the reference coolers vent air outside the case, so the affect on the rest of the system is nominal.

These two articles below show that the reference GTX470 (ala Palit) has exactly the same noise level as the MSI Cyclone GTX460, considered by many to have one of the best coolers available (although it does exhaust heat inside the case), at full load: ~43dB.

Quote from Guru3d regarding the GTX 470/480:
"For both cards you can expect roughly similar noise levels with the GTX 480 being a notch louder when it's stressed. Once the GPU starts to heat up the fan RPM will go up real fast and the card does become audible. We measure roughly 43 dBA for the GTX 470 and 45 DBa with heavy GPU stress. Not at all annoying, but you can hear the airflow."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-revie...

And for the MSI GTX460 Cyclone:
"The 1GB version of the GTX 460 runs hotter and as such the cooler RPM goes up alright. This means that the card is more noisy than the 768MB models. We measure 43 DBa when the GPU is massively under stress. This means you can clearly hear the cooler. It however is not an annoying noise level. To put it in words, you can hear the airflow but no other residual noises or anything bad. We'll classify the noise level as 'okay'."
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-cyclo...
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September 28, 2010 9:22:57 PM

Thanks for all the quick replies, I'm putting together a new rig and I'm trying to get the most bang for my buck and end up with a descent system. This is my third build, last one was 3 years ago, starting from scratch. I will do the same when it's time to upgrade again. Looking to build something to last for another 3 years. Pieces to my system so far and what I'm looking at purchasing. Any comments are greatly appreciated, especially in the vid card department, no sense getting too much of a card if the rest of the system can't handle it.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
MB: ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
Currently on newegg as a combo for $275, Its in the shopping chart as I type
RAM: 4 gigs 1600 DDR3, looking at Corsair, suggestions appreciated - still need to buy
PSU: Seasonic X750, already purchased
Case: CM 690 II Advanced - already purchased
HD: 1TD WD Black 32mb Cache - already purchased

Thanks again.
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September 28, 2010 9:27:56 PM

460 1GB. Get it, game, be happy
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September 28, 2010 9:34:41 PM

The resolution you intend to game at would give people a better idea what would or wouldn't be overkill for you.
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September 29, 2010 12:34:07 AM

I'm not sure a list that puts the 5870 above the 5970 can be trusted but I like seeing the 465 up that high :) 
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September 29, 2010 12:40:31 AM

The GTX 465 is a mistake while the GTX 460 and the GTX 470 are the best buys as far as Fermi goes. Buying he 5870 is like buying a GTX 480, both are overpriced for the performance they deliver. The 5970 is to be avoided unless you like the problems that often have to go along with the performance. Over all if you don't know what you want and have a poor understanding of hardware our advice might as well count for nothing.
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September 29, 2010 12:51:13 AM

nforce4max said:
The GTX 465 is a mistake while the GTX 460 and the GTX 470 are the best buys as far as Fermi goes. Buying he 5870 is like buying a GTX 480, both are overpriced for the performance gain they deliver over their closest sibling.

Fixed. :) 
nforce4max said:
Over all if you don't know what you want and have a poor understanding of hardware our advice might as well count for nothing.

That's the brutal truth. +10 man
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September 29, 2010 1:01:05 AM

If everyone had a complete understanding of hardware there would be no need for this forum or the site that hosts it and there would be no advertising dollars to pay for the site that hosts it.
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September 29, 2010 1:23:10 AM

benski said:
If everyone had a complete understanding of hardware there would be no need for this forum or the site that hosts it and there would be no advertising dollars to pay for the site that hosts it.


Not really but when there are hordes of bottom tier that make up 99.8% of the population when it comes to understanding this forum is going to flourish but good advice is often rejected. I am used to dealing with tolls and intellectual degenerates.
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September 29, 2010 1:38:49 AM

460 is pretty good, I have the EVGA 1gb, but now I wish I went with the 470. However, I upgraded from a 9800gtx+ 1gb and it was well worth it.
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October 22, 2010 8:02:29 AM

I recently upgraded from EVGA 9800GT to Zotac 465 GTX. Great card and solid performance, but produce lot more Heat then my previous one :)  . Most people prefer to buy 460 because of the performance per dollar and heat problem.

I got mine in almost the same price as 460 :sol: 
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February 3, 2011 8:43:10 PM

racerboy45 said:
Need some advice, currently can get a Evga GTX465 (01-GP3-1467-AR) for $199 on ebay, the Evga GTX460 (01-GP3-1373-AR) lists for $249, I'm upgrading from a Evga Geforce 9800GT. The core, shader and memory clocks are 625/1250/3240 on the 465 and 763/1526/3800 on the 460. I'm thinking some of the difference could be made u by OCing the 460. Which would be the better buy? Any thoughts/comments would be appreciated.

Thanks..


Most people will advise the GTX460 over the GTX465 and in most situations they're right, but I'm pleased with my 1GB Zotac GTX465 which I purchased around 4 months ago since it's particularly excellent for overclocking and I paid no more than the 1GB GTX460, I'm running at 749Mhz without even increasing the voltage when it runs at 605Mhz on stock, but some people have pushed this card to over 800Mhz, especially if one increases the voltage slightly which one has full control over (unlike many cards). In fact I've even reduced the voltage very slightly and it still runs very stable without getting barely warmer than on stock with temperatures only up to 75 Deg C when pushed. I use MSI afterburner to overclock and to set a custom fan profile (it doesn't have to be an MSI card). Overclocked it performs close to the more expensive GTX470 at stock settings, so I'm very happy. Incidentally you can unlock the extra shaders on some GTX465s to make it a GTX470 (not on the Zotac however), but it's similar to unlocking extra cores on a triple core processor to make it a quad core, it's not guaranteed to be stable.

Technology moves on however and now you can shop around get a much faster GTX480 for not much more than £230 since the release of the new GTX500 series of graphics cards when it cost more like £350 about 4 months ago and one can pick up a GTX470 for a similar price to what I paid for my GTX465, but with computers things always get cheaper for better as time goes by, so one has to choose a time to buy or you'd be constantly waiting for new things to be released and for price reductions, in other words accept that this happens and that you'll see better probably cheaper a few months after your purchase no matter what you do. If you have the money take advantage of the recent price crash and try to push for the GTX480 since it's still a stunning card that isn't far off the new GTX580, the GTX480 still supports DX11 (pixel shader 5.0) and was the fastest single GPU only a couple of months ago which makes it much better than either the GTX460 or GTX465, failing that look at the prices for the slightly slower and cheaper GTX470 which still beats both cards. Shop around hard however as prices vary massively.

In summary: Normally the GTX460 is very slightly better than a GTX465, but the Zotac version of the GTX465 overclocks much better than most GTX465s which gives it an edge over most models. Incidentally, most of the bad reviews on the GTX465 are based it around it being more expensive than the GTX460, well the price has come very close for both cards now. I would ensure you get a 1GB card no matter what though as the GTX460 768MB card will date much quicker. Try to afford a much better GTX480 or even the not so fast GTX470 as prices have crashed recently but SHOP AROUND!
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February 3, 2011 8:52:45 PM

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