ATI 6xxx Delayed

[Shadow703793]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100927PD228.html

 

[spentshells]

bummer

 

[iam2thecrowe]

maybe they will drop 5xxx prices now...

 

[plznote]

I can't believe this!
That is a bad economical decision!
Even though my birthday is in November(sigh)
Maybe I'll get a GPU present from the wife.

 

[plznote]

Shadow...
I thought you were a Moderator??

 

[eyefinity]

It's not delayed because it never had an official release date.

The 14th of October is a press event for the cards, with the cards themselves being released on 25th according to people who normally know. Most sites have always claimed this is nothing more than a paper launch and full availability won't be until November.

We're looking at end October to mid November as always.

 

[Shadow703793]

Shadow...
I thought you were a Moderator??

LOL! That would be randomizer. He and I have the same avatar. We are clones.

It's not delayed because it never had an official release date.

Good point. I guess you could say that the release/launch date got delayed.. if that's even possible...

 

[4745454b]

At first I was worried, but a month or so isn't the end of the world. What I am worried about is 40nm supply. If the 5xxx and GTX cards are on 40nm, is there enough room to launch the 6xxx cards? Will AMD and Nvidia be able to cut the prices of the old cards at all? I sort of get the feeling that the supply and prices issue we see now might continue until GF can get their plants online.

 

[Mousemonkey]

saint19 posted about this a week ago. This is why I've been merging all these threads, imagine all the info in one place, what a concept!

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/299066-33-6870-coming-november#bas

 

[Shadow703793]

Oh wow... how come I didn't see it?

 

[Mousemonkey]

Too much catnip? :lol:

 

[Shadow703793]

^ Nah... I think it's the piece of Unobtanium that badge hid in my room...

 

[yanje03]

It doesn't matter, even 6770 released on time its performance/price wont better than GTX 460 at that time.

 

[4745454b]

And you would know how? I haven't seen any prices or performance data so I don't see how you can claim this. Consider the following.

If they cut a shader out of each block, the chip could easily be 80% of the 5xxx size. This would allow AMD to get more chips per wafer, and drop the price. The 5830 compares will with the GTX460 but costs a bit to much. If the 6750 performs as well as the 5830 but is cheaper, then even the GTX460 could lose its luster.

 

[Timop]

Didn't FUD disprove this?
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20331-hd-6000-series-reportedly-pushed-back-to-november

Update: Minutes after posting the story we were informed by some people in the know that the launch will indeed go ahead as planned. We can expect some fresh and tasty Radeons in two weeks, but mass availability should probably be expected sometime in November. As for Nvidia's price cuts, well it's not like they have much choice.

 

[nforce4max]

:lol:

 

[4745454b]

How do you disprove a rumor? The only way is to wait for X to actually happen and then see if it was right. I heard a rumor that the 6770 was going to be so fast that it was going to rip the fabric of space/time and your games were going to be done playing before you even started. Disprove that.

Even if you accept FUD they both say the same thing more or less. If you want to buy one, you're going to have to wait until Nov.

 

[Tamz_msc]

How do you disprove a rumor? The only way is to wait for X to actually happen and then see if it was right. I heard a rumor that the 6770 was going to be so fast that it was going to rip the fabric of space/time and your games were going to be done playing before you even started. Disprove that.

:lol:

 

[spentshells]

It doesn't matter, even 6770 released on time its performance/price wont better than GTX 460 at that time.

I think maybe we should know the price of the 6770 before we make statements like this.


about the rips in space/time this has already been confirmed last year ...but was hushed by the government

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

It doesn't matter, even 6770 released on time its performance/price wont better than GTX 460 at that time.

Please break your NDA, since youre connected with such knowledge.
Giving your opinion should have some facts to back them up
Even FUaD does this

 

[yanje03]

I think maybe we should know the price of the 6770 before we make statements like this.


about the rips in space/time this has already been confirmed last year ...but was hushed by the government

I think I already told everyone AMD wont release its 6000 on Oct few weeks ago and not many people listen. nVidia market strategy is grabbing market share back in half year. They could sell 460 $10 if 6770 sell for $30. Intel & nVidia have power to do price war but not AMD. AMD has learned this lessen hardly one year ago. As 2nd market position AMD has to be tech in advance otherwise just run business without gaining money.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

And it appears they have less than they had
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/30/nvidia-reaches-settlement-in-class-action-suit-affecting-apple/
http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/faq.html

 

[Timop]

How do you disprove a rumor? The only way is to wait for X to actually happen and then see if it was right. I heard a rumor that the 6770 was going to be so fast that it was going to rip the fabric of space/time and your games were going to be done playing before you even started. Disprove that.

Even if you accept FUD they both say the same thing more or less. If you want to buy one, you're going to have to wait until Nov.

Point is lots of people take the rumor to be the truth, just saying that it may not be delayed after all.

Regardless, AMD/ATI should push the launch as early as they can IMO, even if the first batch is quantity limited. The launch should at least stall the market, which pulls market interest towards AMD/ATI. But that's just me.

 

[4745454b]

Nah, I'm tired of the old days where card is "launched", only to have parts show up months later. AMD and Nvidia have done an excellent job shipping products when they are launched. I don't want to go back to the old ways, but that's just me

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Ya mean like this?
http://tbreak.com/tech/2009/11/nvidia-past-present-future-an-interview-with-jen-hsun-huang/2/
or this?
http://www.www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20091002130844_Nvidia_Admits_Showing_Dummy_Fermi_Card_at_GTC_Claims_First_Graphics_Cards_on_Track_for_Q4_2009.html
or, possibly this?
http://tbreak.com/tech/2009/11/nvidia-past-present-future-an-interview-with-jen-hsun-huang/2/
Nah, must be this one
http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1258360868914.html
OK OK, its this one for sure
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20100218124405_Fermi_Architecture_Will_Only_Hit_the_Pull_Stride_Next_Quarter_CEf_Nvidia.html

All kidding aside, yea, delays come in all sizes