Torlon officially declared "over"

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

....by me. For gods' sake, play other maps! I haven't even played that
much Onslaught and I'm sick of it.

-Tuber

 

[Schism]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Torlan still owns, it's a good map.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:36:57 GMT, Daniel Damouth <damouth@san.rr.com>
wrote:

>...by me. For gods' sake, play other maps! I haven't even played that
>much Onslaught and I'm sick of it.
>
>-Tuber

Heh. You see that one so much because it's the only map available in
the demo, and a lot of servers cater to "demo only" players.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Yea, check out the variations of it. Torlan at night, Torlan rain, Torlan
vctf. It's a sweet map. Sort of like facing worlds was to UT.

--
Mark C. Jack of all trades, master of none. (well, maybe a couple)

I r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d



"Schism" <schismsx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108409109.298948.89880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Torlan still owns, it's a good map.
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

> Yea, check out the variations of it. Torlan at night, Torlan rain, Torlan
> vctf. It's a sweet map.

Can You point me to a place where I can find them?

Btw Torlan Rules!!
The best map of Ut2k4(at least of the basic ones).

Can You maybe recomend any good ones(and tell me where to get them)?

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

"Schism" <schismsx@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:1108409109.298948.89880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Torlan still owns, it's a good map.
>

Torlan still ownz, but....

Im tired of being pancaked by Mantas in the base, there are so many good
players around that are absolutly brilliant at doing this.

It makes recapture of the primary node imposible. There is not much game in
that, in my opinion.

And good tank-spammers have a field day stitting in the mist shooting
blindly into the base.

But Torlan still ownz.

BTW once i played with someone who simply was at the enemy base all the time
just sticking grenades to vehicles and spidermines all over, eventhough the
other team was attaking the powercore, thats a bit boring too.
Ok i HATE getting killed this way. I annoys me so much that i have actually
started flaming once - stupid me.

HaglStorm_DK

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:26:00 +0100, "HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@e-mail.dk>
wrote:
> I annoys me so much that i have actually started flaming once...

LOL. I flame people if I don't like their nick. I flame them if I
lose. I flame them if I win. If they're clueless, I'll talk about
their heritage.

I flame people if my underwear is too tight.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Tired of mantas. Try the sws server. It has advanced armor and node runners
instead of mantas. Better vehicles as far as I'm concerned.

--
Mark C. Jack of all trades, master of none. (well, maybe a couple)

I r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d



"HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@e-mail.dk> wrote in message
news:4213744c$0$164$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
> "Schism" <schismsx@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:1108409109.298948.89880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Torlan still owns, it's a good map.
>>
>
> Torlan still ownz, but....
>
> Im tired of being pancaked by Mantas in the base, there are so many good
> players around that are absolutly brilliant at doing this.
>
> It makes recapture of the primary node imposible. There is not much game
> in that, in my opinion.
>
> And good tank-spammers have a field day stitting in the mist shooting
> blindly into the base.
>
> But Torlan still ownz.
>
> BTW once i played with someone who simply was at the enemy base all the
> time just sticking grenades to vehicles and spidermines all over,
> eventhough the other team was attaking the powercore, thats a bit boring
> too.
> Ok i HATE getting killed this way. I annoys me so much that i have
> actually started flaming once - stupid me.
>
> HaglStorm_DK
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

do u wear very thights?

Then i dont want to be in a game with u.


"Folk" <Folk@folk.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:hl07115t2ql6sq7a4krnohsht4djv7u003@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:26:00 +0100, "HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@e-mail.dk>
> wrote:
>> I annoys me so much that i have actually started flaming once...
>
> LOL. I flame people if I don't like their nick. I flame them if I
> lose. I flame them if I win. If they're clueless, I'll talk about
> their heritage.
>
> I flame people if my underwear is too tight.
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

I hate torlan. I feel like switching servers every time someone puts it in
their map list. Torlan should have no vehicles whatsoever, then it would be
a good map.

"Daniel Damouth" <damouth@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95FD643A1FB1damouthsanrrcom@66.75.162.201...
> ...by me. For gods' sake, play other maps! I haven't even played that
> much Onslaught and I'm sick of it.
>
> -Tuber

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

HaglStorm_DK wrote:
> "Schism" <schismsx@gmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:1108409109.298948.89880@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>Torlan still owns, it's a good map.
>>
>
> Torlan still ownz, but....
>
> Im tired of being pancaked by Mantas in the base, there are so many good
> players around that are absolutly brilliant at doing this.

Tried dodging? Tried using the shock rifle to forcefully push the manta
away so you wouldn't get your head sliced off or squished by the manta?

> It makes recapture of the primary node imposible. There is not much game in
> that, in my opinion.

Nah. It just makes it difficult, not impossible.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 02:09:49 +0000, krap wrote:

> Tried using the shock rifle to forcefully push the manta
> away so you wouldn't get your head sliced off or squished by the manta?

This is great. I love it when they don't realize they're beat and just
keep coming straight at ya.


--
{AGUT}DeadMan

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:
> I hate torlan. I feel like switching servers every time someone puts it in
> their map list. Torlan should have no vehicles whatsoever, then it would be
> a good map.

That sounds great! Let's make it take 5 minutes to walk across a map!

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Folk wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:36:57 GMT, Daniel Damouth <damouth@san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>...by me. For gods' sake, play other maps! I haven't even played that
>>much Onslaught and I'm sick of it.
>>
>>-Tuber
>
> Heh. You see that one so much because it's the only map available in
> the demo, and a lot of servers cater to "demo only" players.

Actually, there are two onslaught maps available in the demo. Torlan is
one of them, "Primeval" is the other.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:36:16 +0100, "HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@jubii.dk>
wrote:

>perhaps i should have added a
>
>

That, my friend, can make a huge difference.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:52:39 -0500, Folk <Folk@folk.com> wrote:

>Did you
>shoot the Manta out from under me while I was trying to jump on? Then
>I may very well talk about your lineage.

Don't start me about that. Being killed by your own team as you head
for the Manta makes me mad. I use a single shot of link gun to
indicate that I am heading for that vehicle and that they should wait
for me. These same people are the ones who drive away alone if they
get their first. I've played Torlan and at the start the Manta and the
HB drive away with only drivers.


--

Julian Richards
usenet "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse
with people that you would never want in your house.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:26:00 +0100, "HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@e-mail.dk>
wrote:


>Torlan still ownz, but....
>
>Im tired of being pancaked by Mantas in the base, there are so many good
>players around that are absolutly brilliant at doing this.

I've seen a player rack up 48 kills, all in the Manta. I've become
rather a specialist on the demo servers. For a weak team, I become the
specialist "Manta camper" killer. I take some AVRILs and stand on the
back shelf of the base so that I can see out of the entrance to the
ridge near the first node. That gives me a field of fire to play havoc
to Mantas running over the respawn points. My AVRILs can even chase
them back to the ridge and finish them off. To get me, they have to go
around or struggle to get up. I refer to the tactic as "Kagemusha" as
I have to keep that position, leaving only to get more AVRILs or to
attack enemies who are up on the ridge.

Such is the success of the tactic against camping Manta pilots that
even when our core is vulnerable, they sometimes come after me and
ignore the core. A sort of compliment, I suppose.


--

Julian Richards
usenet "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse
with people that you would never want in your house.

 

[Sloper]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Julian Richards wrote:

> Don't start me about that. Being killed by your own team as you head
> for the Manta makes me mad. I use a single shot of link gun to
> indicate that I am heading for that vehicle and that they should wait
> for me. These same people are the ones who drive away alone if they
> get their first. I've played Torlan and at the start the Manta and the
> HB drive away with only drivers.

This makes me so mad too! I won't play with such idiots on public
servers... I usually change team or quit.

 

[Sloper]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Julian Richards wrote:
>
> Such is the success of the tactic against camping Manta pilots that
> even when our core is vulnerable, they sometimes come after me and
> ignore the core. A sort of compliment, I suppose.

Do you play on the Jolt servers Julian? I'm just wondering what your
nick is.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:27:56 +0000, Sloper <steveo40uk@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>Julian Richards wrote:
>>
>> Such is the success of the tactic against camping Manta pilots that
>> even when our core is vulnerable, they sometimes come after me and
>> ignore the core. A sort of compliment, I suppose.
>
>Do you play on the Jolt servers Julian? I'm just wondering what your
>nick is.

Not usually. I often use the official servers (Euro and sometimes East
Coast USA) and the Chello server.. I'm SuspectDevice although my stats
but not online name are shared by my two eldest children.



--

Julian Richards
usenet "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse
with people that you would never want in your house.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:49:46 +0000, Julian Richards wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:26:00 +0100, "HaglStorm_DK" <olebech@e-mail.dk>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Torlan still ownz, but....
>>
>>Im tired of being pancaked by Mantas in the base, there are so many good
>>players around that are absolutly brilliant at doing this.
>
> I've seen a player rack up 48 kills, all in the Manta. I've become rather
> a specialist on the demo servers. For a weak team, I become the specialist
> "Manta camper" killer. I take some AVRILs and stand on the back shelf of
> the base so that I can see out of the entrance to the ridge near the first
> node. That gives me a field of fire to play havoc to Mantas running over
> the respawn points. My AVRILs can even chase them back to the ridge and
> finish them off. To get me, they have to go around or struggle to get up.
> I refer to the tactic as "Kagemusha" as I have to keep that position,
> leaving only to get more AVRILs or to attack enemies who are up on the
> ridge.
>
> Such is the success of the tactic against camping Manta pilots that even
> when our core is vulnerable, they sometimes come after me and ignore the
> core. A sort of compliment, I suppose.

This, I think, is the brilliant thing about this game. The human element.
You just couldn't program in all the variations that a thinking mind can
consider.

--
{AGUT}DeadMan

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 09:53:14 -0500, {AGUT}DeadMan
<oldman1961@hotmail.com> wrote:

>This, I think, is the brilliant thing about this game. The human element.
>You just couldn't program in all the variations that a thinking mind can
>consider.

Someone did once point out about online games that human opponents are
infinitely more cunning and infinitely more fallible than bots could
ever be.

That's why Torlan isn't "over". Yesterday I saw someone start the game
by jumping from the ledge straight on top of the HB, not even stopping
to pick up weapons. When the HB arrived at the middle node, there
were 4 players. He pretty quickly got hold of the AVRIL. Not unique, I
suppose, but it was the first time that I saw it done that way.



--

Julian Richards
usenet "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse
with people that you would never want in your house.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:35:02 -0600, "SomeOldDude" <nunya@business.com>
wrote:

>
>"Julian Richards" <see@sig.co.uk> sez:
>> I refer to the tactic as "Kagemusha" as
>> I have to keep that position, leaving only to get more AVRILs or to
>> attack enemies who are up on the ridge.
>
>
>I don't get it... what's "Kagemusha" (other than your Torlan tactic)?

In the Kurasawa film a warlord is mortally wounded. He gets his
double, a beggar, to stand in for him. In battle, he had to sit in
this chair behind the front line and not move. Whilst he sat there,
his army knew that they would win and the enemy knew that they would
lose. After a few battles he is found out and thrown out. The new
warlord goes to war but loses his nerve and runs from the chair. His
army are routed and massacred.


--

Julian Richards
usenet "at" richardsuk.f9.co.uk

Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse
with people that you would never want in your house.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:06:19 -0800, "Szaki" <szaki10@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I just exterminate Mantas, period!
>Jump in the turet on the base or go in the tower, so they can't get me than
>snip them, that takes care of them.
>JS

If you've got two Mantas working the base in Torlan, then your primary
node is most likely down and the most important thing your team can do
is recover the primary node. You're not going to do that while
sitting in a turret or standing on the tower.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: alt.games.unreal.tournament2003 (More info?)

Julian Richards wrote:

> Yesterday I saw someone start the game
> by jumping from the ledge straight on top of the HB, not even stopping
> to pick up weapons. When the HB arrived at the middle node, there
> were 4 players. He pretty quickly got hold of the AVRIL. Not unique, I
> suppose, but it was the first time that I saw it done that way.

I almost always start out by racing some vehicle to the 2nd node and
only grab a the linkgun when there. Sometimes the 3rd (often essential)
node can be done in the same run, before getting killed. This works very
well in in Arctic, since the 3rd node is the enemies choke-point.

Or isn't that what you mean?

Ursa..