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September 30, 2010 4:04:22 AM

hello

i am currently using nvidia 8600gt 512 ! now time has come to throw this thing in trash can . this card hardly plays anything in 1024*768 resolution . i was wondering if hd 4570 would be smart choice for now its suits my budget moreover my system has pci-e 1.0 slot so going for top end card wont work to its maximum bottleneck.

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a c 189 U Graphics card
September 30, 2010 5:42:07 AM

Well, 4570 isn't good for gaming, yes you can do some gaming with that card but with lowest setting, even at 1024x768 resolution.
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a b U Graphics card
September 30, 2010 9:25:48 AM

What resolution do you play at?
A GTS 250 would be a good choice for VGA resolutions(up to 1280x1024)
September 30, 2010 9:53:42 AM

how much do you have to spend and where are you going to buy it
September 30, 2010 4:10:13 PM

Not much 100US $. new egg.com services are available in India ? i will be going to the retail shop mostly.
a c 189 U Graphics card
September 30, 2010 4:24:01 PM

Well, for your budget then you can go with GT240 or HD5670, that's faster than 8600GT and HD4570...

And newegg doesn't cover India, my friend... :) 
October 1, 2010 5:23:12 PM

IF possible someone upload benchmark nad performance chart for these cards . i will basically go with 1gb card this time . 512 mb is just not enough these days.
October 2, 2010 4:38:50 AM

If one has to play 1024*1024 resolution 512 mb card will be enough ?
October 2, 2010 4:44:35 AM

Correct me if i am wrong .Games like gta 4 just needs enough gpu memory nothing else compared to games like cod where gpu needs to be fast and responsive . 1gb memory just dont matter.
a c 189 U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 6:07:38 AM

GTA 4 is a BAD coded game which is VERY CPU and MEMORY demanding, so as long as you have FAST CPU and MANY RAM (including VRAM GPU) then you can play GTA 4 with decent setting...

Even HIGH END PC will still struggle running that game.
Yes, 512MB VRAM will be enough to run gta 4 at 1024x800.
If you want to play above 1280x1024 then choose card with 1GB VRAM.
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 6:43:05 AM

For 1280 x 1024, the GTS 250 is the best choice if you want NVIDIA, while the HD 5750
is the one you'll be getting if you want ATI.They perform the same and it would be more advisable to get the cheaper one.512 MB VRAM is enough for 1280x1024.Considering that, the GTS 250 512 MB GDDR3 might turn out to be cheaper than the 5750.Just make sure that you have a good PSU.
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 7:12:24 AM

Hey u can get GT 240 gddr5 512 mb @ 4.5-5k(atleast dats hw itz here in kolkata) u won't need a 1gb version coz it doesn't have the power to use more memory yet gives gr8 performance and is a fabulous card for the price point.If your cpu isn't d problem,gta 4 will run swiftly with this card.

If you want a bit of more performance for higher resolution games and some good AA then u may opt for the HD 5670 1GB @ 7k
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 4:13:05 PM

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If you do have a 'rockin' power supply then you have more options..


He only has a budget of 100USD
October 2, 2010 4:17:33 PM

Go with HD4850! 100€ and used to be on the top. It may be a year old and doesn't have DX11. But who needs that eye-candy anyway? And ur old PSU will definitly do.
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 4:22:30 PM

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And ur old PSU will definitly do.


Are you sure as far as I know a 4850 requires minimum 450W PSUs.
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 5:03:36 PM

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it's still possible..


Well only 2 top sub $100(<INR 5K) cards are HD 5670 768MB(in kolkata it costs much more) and GT 240 ddr5 512MB(4.5-5k).
Both of these cards run smoothly on 350W PSUs(which is not 'rockin' mayte.... ) :kaola:  :D 
October 2, 2010 5:39:20 PM

Dude, if it powered 8600, it WILL power 4850. And 4850 has only 200mhz slower core than 90, and the same streams.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_ati...

Besides, hes not looking for a monster, but a good card for the money, with no need for additional expenses.
October 2, 2010 6:06:17 PM

Are you really claiming that a retail office computer would have a good psu? Can you proove that somehow, because I believe that to be highly unlikely.

Its easy to neglect the PSU, since mainstream buyers don't know a PSU from a box of candy. And even if, all they check is the wattage. Why the hell would HP want to invest into PSUs? Its not like cheaper ones are going to break the pc before the warranty is gone.

Anyway, his psu should be sufficient. And a HD4850 is really a good card. If you can find one, they are not sold in the numbers anymore. Should power most of the new games on high.
October 2, 2010 6:29:38 PM

Well, it just so happens, a PSU, supplied by retail HP fried my 6800GT some time ago.
And it is true, I don't know a lot about dell units. But, does that matter? I agree with you: his psu can power the 4850.

And yeah, now he has to check some reviews, and comparations out.

Just one more thing:

I have had the same issue 2 weeks ago. My 8800Gt got fried by a bad PSU (note!), and I needed a new GPU. What I wanted was 5770, but than I deduced I needed a PSU as well, and after extensive research, the best thing for 100€ right now is 5770, used GTX2 series, used HD4 high end series. And since I needed a PSU as well, a settled for 4850. I mean, why do you need better? Games for flawlessly on my 22inch screen.

Cheers!
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2010 6:49:13 PM

:sleep: 

:wahoo:  whr wr we??

:o  Oh

:sleep: 
October 2, 2010 8:35:30 PM

^ lol
October 3, 2010 4:06:47 AM

What you got to say about directx11 cards . i am currently using windows 7 home premium and you know this version has direct x11 . so if the gpu is also directx11 compatible will i get more performance ?

The reason i was showing kanjoosie(being miser) was because i am using old core2duo moreover as i said my mobo has pci-e 1.0 slot .
a b U Graphics card
October 3, 2010 4:30:14 AM

pci-e 1.0 slot can run cards for pci-e version 2.0 but not 2.1
a c 189 U Graphics card
October 3, 2010 4:36:09 AM

This thread would be looooong.....
The OP: Tell us your FULl specs including CPU-RAM-MOBO-PSU-Monitor-Budget.
We'll going to suggest a card for you based on your specs. :) 
October 4, 2010 3:29:40 AM

Dude i want to buy a new gpu not a system. GPu just dont mean gaming!! its like a second processor in system .
Anybody knows a good web site name where i can check benchmark for gpus. on toms i saw hd 5670 costing 80$ not bad. this thing should be good to play games like dirt.


a c 189 U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 3:35:47 AM

Yes, i know you want to buy GPU, so that's why i asking you to give us your FULL specs...
It would be wasting money if you buy HD5970 and run it along with Pent.4 cpu...

So, we need more info here to give you proper advise for your new GPU... :) 
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 3:40:21 AM

Look at the 'charts' part on tomshardware.com (what your on now, its up around the top.)
October 4, 2010 3:43:10 AM

gaurav, I am from india too. the prices in india are above the normal US pricings and also most of the stuff is not available in retail shops.
Go to techshop.in, put in ur budget and it will display cards accordingly.
I would reccomend the 5670 which would cost 5.5k[$110] 512mb and about 6.5k[$130] 1gb edition and remember 5670 beats the gt240.
5670 would be the best for your budget.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 8:16:04 AM

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^4850 costs Rs. 7000.which is better than gts250 in gaming.

They perform almost the same.But the 4850 is harder to find in India nowadays.
October 4, 2010 8:47:57 AM

My system core2duo E8300 2.8ghz , 2gbddr2 800mhz ram , psu 450watts, asus

p5gc-mx/1333mhZ motherboard,currently nvidia 8600gt 512mb ddr2 graphic card.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 8:48:38 AM

What 450 W PSU is it?
October 4, 2010 8:57:16 AM

No doubt KaKkaR0T what you said is correct .i dont still get the reason for that we are hell many in numbers even if nvidia and ati make 2$ profit per card how much profit they can make??
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 8:59:34 AM

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I am not talking about what is available online i am talking about gpus which are available in shops.I am damm sure OP being an Indian is not going to buy anything Online.

Maybe the 4850 might still be there in shops.But now, XFX is not what it used to be in the old days.The OP will have a much better chance of finding the GTS 250.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 9:28:13 AM

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^I donot know which country you are form but here in my city i can easily xfx 4850 in shops.

I'm not saying that he won't find the 4850.I'm saying that the GTS 250 has more availability than the 4850.
October 4, 2010 9:46:18 AM

gauravtushir said:
No doubt KaKkaR0T what you said is correct .i dont still get the reason for that we are hell many in numbers even if nvidia and ati make 2$ profit per card how much profit they can make??


The prices are high coz nothing is manufactured in india, it is all imported.
and you should check out techsop.in it is the best site for buying IT products.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 10:10:47 AM

KaKkaR0T said:
The prices are high coz nothing is manufactured in india, it is all imported.
and you should check out techsop.in it is the best site for buying IT products.

And according to it the ZOTAC GTS 250 1GB costs ~7500 rupees.
October 4, 2010 11:35:13 AM

Tamz_msc said:
And according to it the ZOTAC GTS 250 1GB costs ~7500 rupees.


Did the OP say $100 budget? $100 = 4800 or lets say 5k roughly and gts 250 Rs.7500.
the best buy for him would be 5570 or 5670
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 3:30:49 PM

gauravtushir said:
Dude i want to buy a new gpu not a system. GPu just dont mean gaming!! its like a second processor in system .
Anybody knows a good web site name where i can check benchmark for gpus. on toms i saw hd 5670 costing 80$ not bad. this thing should be good to play games like dirt.


Then it will be best for you to get the GT 240 ddr5 512MB for u'll get more of direct compute,parallel processing,(a second processor) from nvidia graphics cards than ati plus this the only 200 series card that can do video processing upto version 5.Don't knw if its included to the fermis too.You will get more of a system performance boost with this card than the HD 5670 which just beats this card on gaming performance and supports 3 monitor display unlike gt 240 which supports only dual display.

As far as I can conclude XFX GT 240 ddr5 512MB @ 4.5-5K will be the best one for him according to the above requirement.

Thx!


October 4, 2010 3:35:04 PM

Anik8 said:
XFX ATI 5670 1GB DDR5 -- 7500(INR)
http://www.priceindia.in/computer/xfx-ati-radeon-hd-567...

you may get the 512MB version in 1K less but it may cost you quite a performance cut when if you use AA(seen on benchmarks)

hope this helps....



that site gives an estimation, go to techshop.in and see for your self it costs around 5.5-6.5k.
a c 271 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
October 4, 2010 3:36:59 PM

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everybody now sing along...:

[Chorus]
We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me

let's just all meet in Amsterdam and we'll just toke it out.


That's it, you're banned!!
a c 271 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
October 4, 2010 3:41:40 PM

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where's the love mousemonkey..?

In Amsterdam, where I wouldn't show my face if I were you! :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 3:43:00 PM

KaKkaR0T said:
that site gives an estimation, go to techshop.in and see for your self it costs around 5.5-6.5k.


okay then let's end this.After reading my last reply and as little info OP has provided till now judge if I'm rite or wrong and conclude a card.

done.
And we are all satisfied.
a c 189 U Graphics card
October 4, 2010 3:52:21 PM

Like i said earlier, this thread will be looong....
Phew... :sleep: 
a c 271 U Graphics card
a b 4 Gaming
October 4, 2010 4:11:24 PM

Don't make come back there! *Reaches for big stick*
October 5, 2010 11:22:45 AM

I cant install 5670 its pci-e 2.1 compatible . i will be going with gt 240 1gb version . 4850 dosent supports direct compute. this thread is closed now.
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