5 new 16ms Flat Panels

The common feature seems to be the brightness of 260cd/m2.
Seems like they're all using the same AU Optronics panel ??
Although some of them claim different contrast ratios and viewing angles.
You've probably in an earlier post that the Hitachi and Planar use the same panel, so that's certain I guess.

I've been looking at this Hitachi job for a couple of weeks now, and trying to decide whether i want to splash out on it or not.
Best price ive found in the UK is from NexNix ( www.nexnix.com ) who were advertising it for £345 + VAT which is £410-ish.
Never dealt with this company tho' so I have no idea what theyre like. Ive read some bad things about Dabs.com though so I would prefer to avoid them if possible. They are also offering the Hitachi but it works out as marginally more expensive.
Good luck!

i have had no problems with <A HREF="http://www.dabs" target="_new">http://www.dabs</A>. i been using the website for about 2 years and the mail oreder system before then. i get most of my stuff from them since they normaly have very good delivery times (2 days or less) and the prices are often good as well. other than them i use <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.co.uk" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.co.uk</A> since they some time have things dabs dont (533mhz rambus any one??) and they are just down the road. not always the cheepest and they dont have great stock levels. (again the rambus thing) but they arent bad. <A HREF="http://www.theoverclockingstore.com" target="_new">http://www.theoverclockingstore.com</A> is another good one.

Now thats what I want to know!

Where did you find information on the LCD1760NX pixel response time? NEC site simply says “16ms response time – typical” wonder what they mean by typical?

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Monitorsdirect.com

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I wonder how that would compare to a grey to grey time.

I read somewhere, maybe in this forum (sorry, no link) that the panel used by the Hitachi CML174 has a 16ms grey to grey response time. If true, this implies that the panel used by NEC is not the same as that of the Hitachi, and since Grey to grey times are significantly longer than white to black or black to white times, that the Hitachi has the superior response time.

Of course, the initial premise could be incorrect…

Anyone help me here?
Chris

Here are two more you can add to your list

LG L1710B
http://www.lgelectronics.co.uk/mod [...] ry_uid=643

CTX S730
http://www.ctxeurope.com/mainprodlcd.asp?model=s730

The LG model lists a response time of 20ms but on some German websites it specifies that it uses the same panel as the Hitachi

nexnix now offering Hitachi for £310 + VAT (=£365).

Still havent bought it.... wonder how low the price will go before I cave in....
Anyone know of good cheap places for the Planar in the UK?

MrT

"...you can tell he's a king: hes not covered in Sh*t"

In my earlier thread I mentioned that some German websites say the LG uses the same panel as the Hitachi unless the UK model uses a different LCD panel.

This product seems available to buy in the UK now so can anybody confirm the response time of this monitor.

I rang Acer(UK) last week and they didn't seem to have a clue about this model...the women on the other end came up with some story about the UK site being the European site so some models don't get released here

On a side note i just ordered the LG 17" which has a response time of 20ms should have it next week got for £350 which is a bargin i think, i will let everyone know how it goes!

I called Acer UK today and after a call back they said that the AL732 isn't available in the UK yet as it hasn't been released. The guy said to check back at the start of March

Maybe the english manual hasn't been written yet

oxo

Acer are a German company I believe, the screen was only just available there in the last two weeks. (A colleague just bought one)

In Switzerland, it is just hitting the shelves. The UK is not that far behind and plenty of products appear in the UK that don't appear in the US (Oh and don't forget the additional tax you'd pay on US product).

"If it's lost, it'll turn up, things always do"
" I love it when a plan comes together!"

I just happened to check one of the stores I've been keeping an eye on and found it !

Try here
http://www.wstore.co.uk/?mag=10&ag [...] nf_id=1261

or here if that link is too long
http://www.wstore.co.uk

nips that is spot on... the site even says stock expected on 05/03/2002 !

My order is going in tonight ! Has anybody ordered from these people before ? Also does anyone know if there is a no dead pixel guarantee ?

oxo

Just ordered mine from the same place !

They seemed to have a better returns policy than wstore.

Cheers
oxo

it's all very interesting!
my question is perhaps, how do we troubleshoot flat panels?
is it much easier than crt's?

mvsiangco@mailcity.com

Woohooo ! The Acer arrived today ! Early !!!

I've only had it out of the box so far (well packed it is too) but I'll try and find the time to post a review tonight after I bin the 15" doorstop I have now.

Just it time for the weekend too

oxo

Well, been using the Asus AL732 through the weekend and I'm very happy with it ! Also after a close inspection I've only found 1 dead pixel at the edge of the screen
The colours are great, it handles films with no problems at all and it looks very good to boot.

I have had a few disaponitments but nothing thats a big deal...
1 - Its not completely aluminium, just the face plate and the base. The case still looks very good though next to my aluminium case so I'm not really complaining as such.
2 - It is very bright and with say Word (white display) its too bright but I don't see any way of adjusting the temperature.
3 - I run two computers with a KVM switch box and I'm finding that sometimes it has a bit of trouble with switching between displays. Especially if the computer is rebooting it searches for input (across 4 types) but then gives up and powers down too quickly. Again, not a big deal and something I'll have to get used to.

The refresh rate is good but not perfect and if you for examply turn round quickly in Battle Field the screen does blur. Windows blur too when you drag them quickly but I guess bluring will still be noticable until (maybe) 4ms TFTs are out. However thats 6 months+ and I'm not waiting that long !

Finally it arrived well packed with cables for just about everything (except DVI including power cables for 3 countries ! Also some of the cables (D Sub & SVideo) were shielded, braided with a transparent cover like you'd expect to see with rounded IDE cables. I don't know if this is common now but it impressed me !

IMHO this is a top quality pannel that came in cheaper than the Hitatchi and I'd buy another if I could.

Hope this helps
oxo

Hi

Thanks for the advice but I've already purchased as DVI cable but havn't been using it. The image badly distorts when using the cable and looks a little like bad tv reception so I think the cable contacts need cleaning. I havn't got around to that yet though becase the analogue image is flawless and perfectly upto what I use it for.

I havn't noticed any lines in the screen though and the monitor gives a crisp, clean picture. As mentioned I do have 1 dead pixel so if this is usually a big problem maybe I got lucky.

oxo