5 new 16ms Flat Panels

[oxoUK]

Hi

I've seen many posts here about new FAST flat panels and I've done some research of my own. These are the 5 panels I found but I've only seen 2 mentioned here !

Check out....
Acer AL732 - http://www.acer.co.uk/vi/page74.jsp-17,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0,0,,,4281285211.htm
Benq FP767 - http://www.benq-eu.com/products/lcd/index.cfm?product=182&page=specifications
Hitachi CML174 - No need for a link I think
Planar PX171M - http://www.planar.com/monitors/px171m.asp
ViewSonic VG170m - http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_vg170m.htm

Anyone reading these forums knows plenty about the Hitatchi but does anybody know anything about these other models ?
I've been keeping an eye out now for a few weeks and nothing appears to be materialising

I'd also be VERY happy is someone could tell me of any UK suppliers who might stock these. The usual suspects (dabs etc) don't seem stock many listed here but then they might not be released yet
Most of them do list release dates in 1st quater 2003 though.

oxoUK

 

[guru]

The common feature seems to be the brightness of 260cd/m2.
Seems like they're all using the same AU Optronics panel ??
Although some of them claim different contrast ratios and viewing angles.
You've probably in an earlier post that the Hitachi and Planar use the same panel, so that's certain I guess.

 

[oxoUK]

Sure they seem to use the same panel but its the different features which appeal to me.

I particually like the aluminium Acer panel which would look very nice next to my Cooler Master 210

So far I have found it on sale in denmark for around 550 euros which sound like a good deal. Mind you since I don't know the language I need to find it in the UK before I'd consider buying it.

On a final note there have been some posts about the Hitatchi panel not doing the full 16 million colors. Most of the other panels though do definately say they do 16 million colors so I'd rather not have the Hitatchi panel.

oxo

 

[Mrtommus]

I've been looking at this Hitachi job for a couple of weeks now, and trying to decide whether i want to splash out on it or not.
Best price ive found in the UK is from NexNix ( www.nexnix.com ) who were advertising it for £345 + VAT which is £410-ish.
Never dealt with this company tho' so I have no idea what theyre like. Ive read some bad things about Dabs.com though so I would prefer to avoid them if possible. They are also offering the Hitachi but it works out as marginally more expensive.
Good luck!

 

[oxoUK]

Try Over Clockers UK. They are offering the Hitatchi at a very apealing £369 inc vat !

Try here.. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_TFT_Monitors_112.html

I don't know how they are for returns but I've bought a very nice case from them with no problems.

oxo

 

[Secretninja]

i have had no problems with <A HREF="http://www.dabs" target="_new">http://www.dabs</A>. i been using the website for about 2 years and the mail oreder system before then. i get most of my stuff from them since they normaly have very good delivery times (2 days or less) and the prices are often good as well. other than them i use <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.co.uk" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.co.uk</A> since they some time have things dabs dont (533mhz rambus any one??) and they are just down the road. not always the cheepest and they dont have great stock levels. (again the rambus thing) but they arent bad. <A HREF="http://www.theoverclockingstore.com" target="_new">http://www.theoverclockingstore.com</A> is another good one.

Now thats what I want to know!

 

[hingkit]

I have not seen much information regarding the NEC 1760NX models but the specs from NEC's website state a 16ms response time. 4up / 12down.

Anyone have more information on this model. I had decided to purchase a 172T but they are so hard to find up here in canada. The NEC 1760NX model seems very good only lacking pivot.

-Hingkit

 

[GoSharks]

Where did you find information on the LCD1760NX pixel response time? NEC site simply says “16ms response time – typical” wonder what they mean by typical?

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Monitorsdirect.com

<A HREF="http://www.monitorsdirect.com" target="_new">MonitorsDirect.com</A>

 

[Meade]

On the Nec/Mitsubishi european site, there is a PDF file with detailled specifications for the 1760NX with a response time of 16ms (4ms white to black and 12ms black to white)
<A HREF="http://www.nec-mitsubishi.com/coremedia/download.jsp/94432/LCD1760NX-datasheet-english.pdf" target="_new">http://www.nec-mitsubishi.com/coremedia/download.jsp/94432/LCD1760NX-datasheet-english.pdf</A>

 

[Heme]

I wonder how that would compare to a grey to grey time.

I read somewhere, maybe in this forum (sorry, no link) that the panel used by the Hitachi CML174 has a 16ms grey to grey response time. If true, this implies that the panel used by NEC is not the same as that of the Hitachi, and since Grey to grey times are significantly longer than white to black or black to white times, that the Hitachi has the superior response time.

Of course, the initial premise could be incorrect…

Anyone help me here?
Chris

 

[flamethrower205]

Interesting...perhaps Gosharks would care to enlighten us. I know the LG Philips states 16 ms grey to grey response time, but then again they could be looking at a specific grey transition which takes less time than black to white....

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

 

[sporders]

Here are two more you can add to your list

LG L1710B
http://www.lgelectronics.co.uk/mod_perl/go.pl/site/products/pc/monitors/tftlcdmonitors.htm?product_uid=2513&category_uid=643

CTX S730
http://www.ctxeurope.com/mainprodlcd.asp?model=s730

The LG model lists a response time of 20ms but on some German websites it specifies that it uses the same panel as the Hitachi

 

[oxoUK]

Great !

Unfortunately most of them still arn't on sale yet

 

[Mrtommus]

nexnix now offering Hitachi for £310 + VAT (=£365).

Still havent bought it.... wonder how low the price will go before I cave in....
Anyone know of good cheap places for the Planar in the UK?

MrT

"...you can tell he's a king: hes not covered in Sh*t"

 

[solomal1]

That LG seems to state 20ms response on the posted link...has the spec changed?

"If it's lost, it'll turn up, things always do"
" I love it when a plan comes together!"

 

[sporders]

In my earlier thread I mentioned that some German websites say the LG uses the same panel as the Hitachi unless the UK model uses a different LCD panel.

This product seems available to buy in the UK now so can anybody confirm the response time of this monitor.

 

[arkus]

Anyone heard anything more on the Acer AL732 specs or availability in the UK?

It's a sexy mutha.

 

[nips]

I rang Acer(UK) last week and they didn't seem to have a clue about this model...the women on the other end came up with some story about the UK site being the European site so some models don't get released here

On a side note i just ordered the LG 17" which has a response time of 20ms should have it next week got for £350 which is a bargin i think, i will let everyone know how it goes!

 

[ozman]

Don't know that much about the ViewSonic VG170 but read a review of ViewSonic VG800 on anandtech.com and testers said that ViewSonic VG800 monitor "appeared dimmer and semmed to have a lower contrast ratio than advertised." See link below. Hope this helps.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.html?i=1777

 

[oxoUK]

I called Acer UK today and after a call back they said that the AL732 isn't available in the UK yet as it hasn't been released. The guy said to check back at the start of March

Maybe the english manual hasn't been written yet

oxo

 

[OLDSKOOL]

Its amazing just how bad the uk gets a bung deal when it comes to electonics and stuff....half the time we dont get alot of products and when we do....boy oh boy how pricey they r.. (Hmmm its got a Sony stamp on it..lets bung a extra 200 quid on that TV)..Not to mention last on consoles...console game and more!
I read a very good review of the Cornea 17" TFT screen..very good price in dollors...can i get it over here??? can i hell!!!!!!!!!

As for the planar it doent even appear in a uk search engine..........

:-(

U guys in the US are lucky..u get a great choice of products and a good price as well.

Oh well at least we got a good football team....

DOH!!!!!

 

[solomal1]

Acer are a German company I believe, the screen was only just available there in the last two weeks. (A colleague just bought one)

In Switzerland, it is just hitting the shelves. The UK is not that far behind and plenty of products appear in the UK that don't appear in the US (Oh and don't forget the additional tax you'd pay on US product).

"If it's lost, it'll turn up, things always do"
" I love it when a plan comes together!"

 

[nips]

Well word on the street is the 732 will be launched next week on the 5th, so i cancelled my order for the Lg in favour of this screen cos it has a better spec

 

[oxoUK]

I just happened to check one of the stores I've been keeping an eye on and found it !

Try here
http://www.wstore.co.uk/?mag=10&agent=L4135BB3CU3A8PVBUQPX1ADS3E500439&pg=/Manufacturer/space.asp?Manf_id=1261

or here if that link is too long
http://www.wstore.co.uk

nips that is spot on... the site even says stock expected on 05/03/2002 !

My order is going in tonight ! Has anybody ordered from these people before ? Also does anyone know if there is a no dead pixel guarantee ?

oxo

 

[nips]

Sorry i should have mentioned this before but i got mine from http://www.3dsolutions.co.uk/ they only order over the phone but they have a catalogue on-line, the 732 is not on there yet but if you give them a call on 01246 267788 they should be able to take an order....but the best thing i found was the prices they give u including deliver, i managed to get mine for £393 (including vat & delivery!)