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November 26, 2010 4:47:01 PM

Okay, I've got a list of parts I've been looking through and here's the two builds I've been considering:

BUILD 1

Case - Cooler Master Cosmos S: $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO - EVGA P55 FTW SLI Motherboard: $200
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU - Intel Core i5 750: $200
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU Cooler - Corsair A50 Air Series Performance CPU Cooler : $50
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

RAM - Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM: $93
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Video Card - EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SuperClocked Video Card: $210
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

PSU - Corsair 750-Watt Power Supply: $120
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM Hard Drive - 1TB: $65
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD - INTEL 40GB SSD X25-V SATA: $70
http://www.frys.com/product/6165889#detailed

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders: $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal Paste: $10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mounting Bracket for SSD: $6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Newegg bundles case and OS for $290)

TOTAL PRICE - $1314.00

Rebates:
MOBO - $40
CPU Cooler - $15
RAM - $10
GPU - $10
PSU - $10

FINAL PRICE - $1229.00



BUILD 2

Case - Cooler Master Cosmos S: $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO - EVGA P55 FTW SLI Motherboard: $200
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU - Intel Core i5 750: $200
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU Cooler - Corsair A50 Air Series Performance CPU Cooler : $50
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

RAM - Corsair XMS3 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 RAM: $93
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Video Card - EVGA GeForce GTS 450 FPB Video Card : $120 (X2 - $240)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

PSU - Corsair 750-Watt Power Supply: $120
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM Hard Drive - 1TB: $65
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD - INTEL 40GB SSD X25-V SATA: $70
http://www.frys.com/product/6165889#detailed

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders: $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal Paste: $10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mounting Bracket for SSD: $6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Newegg bundles case and OS for $290)

TOTAL PRICE - $1344.00

Rebates:
MOBO - $40
CPU Cooler - $15
RAM - $10
GPU - $40
PSU - $10

FINAL PRICE - $1229.00

Basically the differences between the builds is the GPU. Build 1 has a single 460; Build 2 has dual 450s. With the rebates, they're the same price.

Here's some questions:

*Will TWO 450s be better than a single 460? (Even a little bit would be worth it since they cost the same.)

*I'd like to make sure all these parts are compatible within the builds. I've checked many times, but I'm bound to overlook something.

*I'd like to make sure my PSU is adequate (I checked it with Newegg's PSU calculator, but it's pretty rudimentary. It told me about 560 or so. So I went with a 750watt PSU to be safe rather than the 650)

*Will I need to purchase further cooling systems to keep the two video cards stable?

*Is this CPU cooler compatible with the CPU? Will it block the RAM?


There's a lot of questions in there. I tend to research a LOT before I purchase parts and somehow I still end up with the wrong parts, so I'm hoping you guys can be my extra eyes!

Thanks for your time.
November 26, 2010 5:10:42 PM

my first reaction to both of ur builds are of wasting money on casing, u can easily get a HAF 932 etc on and spend the saved 100$ on a core i7 950. second thing is to increase ram to 6GB and also SSD to 60Gb as i assume u r gona install ur O.S on SSD, 40Gb is a bit low, i myself have 60GB and its perfect for all my application + O.S. third point, i would suggest a western digital 1TB black 64mb cache 7200rpm Sata 6Gb/s with a Mobo which have USB 3.0 + Sata 6Gb/s.

last point, none of ur links are working.
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November 26, 2010 6:01:49 PM

mianmars said:
my first reaction to both of ur builds are of wasting money on casing, u can easily get a HAF 932 etc on and spend the saved 100$ on a core i7 950. second thing is to increase ram to 6GB and also SSD to 60Gb as i assume u r gona install ur O.S on SSD, 40Gb is a bit low, i myself have 60GB and its perfect for all my application + O.S. third point, i would suggest a western digital 1TB black 64mb cache 7200rpm Sata 6Gb/s with a Mobo which have USB 3.0 + Sata 6Gb/s.

last point, none of ur links are working.



Thanks for the reply. All the links should be working now.

On the SSD, someone recommended this SSD for the OS. I haven't looked into recommended drive sizes for Win7, and just took his word for it. Thanks for the heads up on that. I'll look into it more.

On the RAM, I'll look around for 6Gb RAM deals. At that point is there any reason not to bump it up to 8Gb (4 x 2Gig sticks)?

For whatever reason, I'm particular about how the case looks. I should try to get over that, but I'll check out the case you mentioned.

I'll look into the MOBO thing you brought up too.

A bunch of great tips. Thanks again.
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November 26, 2010 6:28:36 PM

I currently have OCZ 12Gb 1600Mhz Ram and even in my highest multi-tasking period (video editing + graphics + many firefox tabs) i have yet to see the system using more then 6-8Gb ram. So a 6gb ram would be more then enough for u right now with a core i7 build.

The most imp point for u is to jump to core i7 950 as speed matter more then looks. there are a bunch of gud looking casings around 100$ range.

Lastly don't opt for 2 x GTS 450. i would recommend a single 460 to have the option to speed it up by attaching another 460 with it rather then being stuck with 2x 450.
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November 26, 2010 7:13:47 PM

Dude, so I went through and started putting parts together around the CPU and MOBO you suggested, and you totally blew my mind. I thought it would be a lot more expensive; I was wrong.

Approximate Purchase Date: At least four months from now (11/26/10)


Budget Range: Trying not to exceed $1000. Cannot exceed $1500.


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com tigerdirect.com


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: I prefer EVGA parts for MOBO and GPU. I'd Prefer Intel CPU. I'd prefer Corsair parts for PSU and RAM. I don't want cheap stuff. I'm building for longevity.


Overclocking: No (I'm building for longevity)


SLI or Crossfire: In the future.


Monitor Resolution: Not sure. I have an old CRT. Will look into getting a new monitor when I have the money.


Additional Comments: A quiet PC would be nice. My Alienware (about 8-9 years old) always has and still does sound like a jet. This is my first build, so I'd like to make sure all the small parts and wires i'll need are included with the respected hardware.

BUILD 3

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case: $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO - EVGA LGA 1366 Intel X58 SLI3 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard: $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor: $279.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler - CORSAIR CAFA50 120mm CPU Cooler: $37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory: $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support: $199.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - CORSAIR 750W ATX12V / EPS12V: $94.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive- 1TB: $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD - OCZ Vertex 2 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive: $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders: $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal Paste: $4.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mounting Bracket for SSD: $5.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

(Newegg bundles case and OS for $199.98)

TOTAL PRICE - $1333.88

Rebates:
Case - $20 (Not sure if Rebate is valid when you bundle with OS. I'll leave it off Final Price.)
CPU Cooler - $15
GPU - $20
PSU - $25
SSD - $25

FINAL PRICE - $1248.88
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November 26, 2010 7:32:53 PM

now thats some system to have. i am not sure about EVGA Mobo as i only buy Asus Mobo's all the time as they r always solid, u should have a look at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... its already been awarded 4 times for customer choice award so u can understand y so.

Also which ever Mobo u end up to buy, do check their memory support list so to make sure the Ram kit u r buying is fully supported by the Mobo. Dont leave anything to chance !!
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November 26, 2010 10:26:50 PM

@ mosox Gud combo deals.

my only problem is with lower cache HDD of samsung. about the GPU, if money aint making issues then definitely go for 6870.

Guess u should be clear in ur decisions by now !!
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November 27, 2010 12:54:28 AM

@mianmars - Well I'm definitely looking into a system based around the i7 950. I'm still looking into the differences between the ASUS you suggested, and the EVGA I picked. The EVGA is $50 cheaper, and it has more of some things a less of others. I'm still blown away that this BETTER system is $19 more.

@mosox - Great MOBO/CPU find. I'm not really finding any reason the ASUS P6X58D-E is $50 cheaper than the ASUS P6X58D.
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November 27, 2010 1:16:11 AM

Well the only difference would be in some of its smaller features, nothing major. i suggest u to buy the cpu+mobo deal asap. its the best combination for ur build.

u can compare both Mobo's of Asus on their official site.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=wurRaDZ8lo4Ckukj&...
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=gFBKfNyhppW9tDbB&...

Click on "Add to Compare List" on both items and then see the difference.

About the GPU, it depends on you, if u can afford it then definitely go for HD 6870, its a new card and is about 10-15% better in performance then GTX 460 though around 80$ expensive.
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