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Component questions. Trying to beat a Black Friday Doorbuster deal.

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November 26, 2010 11:19:19 PM

Trying to build a better machine than THIS ONE(sans monitor) spending less than $433.

So far looking at THIS MOTHERBOARD/CHIPSET COMBO. Found it based on the PassMark info HERE. = $50

1TB DRIVE = $90
ALTERNATIVE? = $50

Not very familiar with how I should attack the memory issue. With only 2 slots I would love 8GB (2x4), so I don't have to deal with it again for a long while, but what are the cost benefits to the different kinds of memory?

The MB will support
400MHz DDR2
533MHz DDR2
667MHz DDR2
800MHz DDR2
240-Pin

Not particular about case or power supply but would like something not gigantic.

I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS (win7)etc..

Thanks for the feedback.

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 12:00:16 AM

its old. Don't get it.

The CPU is a 2 year old design and the motherboard is 18 months old. Its only $50, but its NOT WORTH GETTING.


your doorbusters deal didn't show up when I linked to it, but a $433 budget is doable

gimme a few minutes
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 12:21:09 AM

here we go. $336.92, but with $25 in rebates, its only $311.92 after rebates.


LG 22x DVD burner: $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Blackbone case w. 2 120mm fans: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB Hard drive: $49.99

AS Rock 880 G Motherboard: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Essentials 4 GB RAM: $49.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X3 740 3.0 GHZ BE Processor: $68.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3 cores, easy overclock (3.5 GHz at the very least), possible 4th core unlock

Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Heat Sink: $29.99 w./ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic S12II 520W PSU, 80+ Bronze: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total: $336.92 less $25 in rebates.

Undoubtably better than the doorbuster computer from Worst Buy :) 

Not enough left to get a real video card, but the one built in to the 880 will do everything short of hardware accelerated games, a GTS 450 or HD5770 will take you a bit over budget (about $500 before rebates)
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 12:30:49 AM

well, crud, my edit failed. I forgot a hard drive there, the Seagate 1 TB is onsale for $49.99, so dropping the video card and swapping out the AS Rock 870 for the 880 ($59.99) leaves a $336.92 computer.


turns out my edit did go through. oh well
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November 27, 2010 12:39:20 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
here we go. $336.92, but with $25 in rebates, its only $311.92 after rebates.


LG 22x DVD burner: $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Blackbone case w. 2 120mm fans: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB Hard drive: $49.99

AS Rock 880 G Motherboard: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Essentials 4 GB RAM: $49.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X3 740 3.0 GHZ BE Processor: $68.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3 cores, easy overclock (3.5 GHz at the very least), possible 4th core unlock

Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Heat Sink: $29.99 w./ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic S12II 520W PSU, 80+ Bronze: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total: $336.92 less $25 in rebates.

Undoubtably better than the doorbuster computer from Worst Buy :) 

Not enough left to get a real video card, but the one built in to the 880 will do everything short of hardware accelerated games, a GTS 450 or HD5770 will take you a bit over budget (about $500 before rebates)


Wow, this looks like something I should just build for my brother. Only question is that I know for games it takes a decent card. I was thinkin about a 5770 (I have one in my computer) will the MB support the speeds and the PSU support the power connection of a 5770? =D
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 12:41:21 AM

yes. The seasomic 520W has 40 amps on the 12v rail. It can handle a 5770 easily. even a 470 can be handled
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November 27, 2010 12:48:00 AM

Holy poop. You're my hero.

Returning tomorrow to return it all.

PM me an address and I'll mail you a beer or other beverage of your choice.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 12:51:40 AM

you're welcome. No beer needed. I love pricing out budget systems. Its fun!

but hurry: The hdd & CPU are deep discounts right now
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November 27, 2010 12:52:29 AM

Yea, there seriously should be a thread on who can come up with the black friday computer deal of the day. Talk about an awesome computer for super cheap.
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November 27, 2010 12:56:11 AM

Is there any possibility you can find a 5770 for a good price? XFX is the brand I have.
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November 27, 2010 12:56:15 AM

Sqrl: If you could add another $100 where would you put it? I had no idea it would be this cheap.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 1:02:25 AM

I'd get a real video card. GTS 450 from PNY is $119.99 with a $20 rebate. Would make what I quoted above just to $455.91.

The 450 will run most games fine at 1280x1024 or 1440x900
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November 27, 2010 1:04:53 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
I'd get a real video card. GTS 450 from PNY is $119.99 with a $20 rebate. Would make what I quoted above just to $455.91.

The 450 will run most games fine at 1280x1024 or 1440x900


I have pretty severe RSS in my hands (from 10 years of hard core playing) and can't play games at all, so I'm hesitant to spring for a card.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 1:15:25 AM

I can understand that. Even without doing games, if you do photo manipulation or video editing, a card can speed that up. If you are just doing the internet, basic office tasks, and the like, you don;t need a card.

Instead you might consider a small SSD as a boot/applications drive. It will speed everything up:
Mushkin Callisto 40 GB drive $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 27, 2010 1:22:57 AM

Yeah, no photo or video here. Maybe just netflix in HD. Maybe a cheaper card but....

Is there a way to put a Quad in here?

You know, maybe I just need a new ergonomic keyboard... :) 

(again, much thanks.)
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 27, 2010 1:25:56 AM

yeah. for about the price of the HSF and 740, you could put in an Athlon II X4 640. ($99.99). no effective price change there.

$144 gets you the 955 quad

at $199 (+100 on the basic build), you could put in the 6-core 1055t.

a decent ergonomic keyboard and the 955 would make up the extra $100
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November 28, 2010 1:57:39 AM

Yipes! Tower is out of stock! Anyone have another suggestion? The motherboard says it's a MicroATX so could I look at a smaller tower or do I need a mid-size?

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 2:02:54 AM

micro atx will go in any size tower, there were two other rosewill $29.99 towers, with a single 120mm fan, they'll do the trick just fine
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November 28, 2010 2:05:31 AM

What does that 120mm fan mean? Larger single fan means quieter operation? (I'm ordering right now)
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 2:52:33 AM

yes, thats a great case.

the 120mm fans move more air than an 80mm one, keeping the case cooler
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 3:34:55 AM

if you are doing just games, 8 GB is not needed.
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November 28, 2010 3:37:58 AM
a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 3:57:12 AM

no. If you're going more memory intensive tasks (like rendering, photo manipulation, audio encoding, etc) you might need 8GB (or more), but if you ar playing games, you will usually see no real benfit for more than 4 GB of RAM
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November 28, 2010 3:58:26 AM

Groovy.

Buying now.

Eternal thanks.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 3:59:29 AM

that overall build looks very nice
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November 28, 2010 4:14:44 AM

Thermal paste... Does a little bit usually come with a CPU or a fan?
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 4:16:48 AM

yes, it usually comes with.

look into some combos. You might be able to swing the 1075T instead of the 1055t.
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November 28, 2010 4:24:52 AM

Too late. :) 

I pulled the trigger.


Also... what exactly do you mean when you say combo... a combo... what?
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November 28, 2010 4:34:35 AM

Wonder if I can change the order...
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 4:46:47 AM

if you already pulled the trigger, then no,

Newegg has a lot of deals where if you buy, say, a Motherboard and a CPU, they'l knock an extra $10 or $15 off the price. These are combo deals. As it is, the system you bout should be great. If you're comfortable with overclocking, the 1055 overclocks nicely.
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November 28, 2010 4:55:52 AM

Actually, I canceled the order and am reordering with the 1075T. Figured why not?
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November 28, 2010 4:59:56 AM

Checked all the 75T combos. Nothing I need.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 28, 2010 10:01:51 AM

no problem. Good luck!
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December 4, 2010 4:36:07 AM

Just got my components. The CPU came with a fan and the one I ordered is HUGE!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Do I really need this much cooling? As is I have a 120mm fan in the back (2 inches from the CPU) and the CPU fan itself (maybe 80mm?) plus power supply fan (which isn't necessarily to cool the CPU but still...).

Our computer is in our living room and loud enough as it is, I really don't want to make another noisy machine.
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 4, 2010 12:15:18 PM

the coolermaster 212+ is best used only if you plan to overclock. With that fan, you can easily get a 4.0 GHz overclock, maybe 4.2 or 4.3. The other option is to use it to keep the CPU extra cool without having to put the fan up to top speed.
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December 4, 2010 12:35:19 PM

So should I have even bought it if I have no intention to overclock?
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a b B Homebuilt system
December 4, 2010 1:41:23 PM

the stock cooler will work. even without overclocking, the Coolermaster offeres low temps and low noise.

Its up to you if you want to keep it.
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