Component questions. Trying to beat a Black Friday Doorbuster deal.

[thegibson]

Trying to build a better machine than THIS ONE(sans monitor) spending less than $433.

So far looking at THIS MOTHERBOARD/CHIPSET COMBO. Found it based on the PassMark info HERE. = $50

1TB DRIVE = $90
ALTERNATIVE? = $50

Not very familiar with how I should attack the memory issue. With only 2 slots I would love 8GB (2x4), so I don't have to deal with it again for a long while, but what are the cost benefits to the different kinds of memory?

The MB will support
400MHz DDR2
533MHz DDR2
667MHz DDR2
800MHz DDR2
240-Pin

Not particular about case or power supply but would like something not gigantic.

I already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, OS (win7)etc..

Thanks for the feedback.

Gib

 

[ScrewySqrl]

its old. Don't get it.

The CPU is a 2 year old design and the motherboard is 18 months old. Its only $50, but its NOT WORTH GETTING.


your doorbusters deal didn't show up when I linked to it, but a $433 budget is doable

gimme a few minutes

 

[thegibson]

Thanks. Try this link: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+Pavilion+p6604y+Desktop%2C+20%22+WLED+Monitor%2C+Wireless+Printer+%26+Antivirus+Software+Package/9999142900050016.p?id=pcmprd142900050016&skuId=9999142900050016&childSku=1339246&count=1

 

[ScrewySqrl]

here we go. $336.92, but with $25 in rebates, its only $311.92 after rebates.


LG 22x DVD burner: $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136168

Rosewill Blackbone case w. 2 120mm fans: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB Hard drive: $49.99

AS Rock 880 G Motherboard: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157199

Mushkin Essentials 4 GB RAM: $49.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146748

AMD Phenom II X3 740 3.0 GHZ BE Processor: $68.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103699
3 cores, easy overclock (3.5 GHz at the very least), possible 4th core unlock

Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Heat Sink: $29.99 w./ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Seasonic S12II 520W PSU, 80+ Bronze: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

total: $336.92 less $25 in rebates.

Undoubtably better than the doorbuster computer from Worst Buy

Not enough left to get a real video card, but the one built in to the 880 will do everything short of hardware accelerated games, a GTS 450 or HD5770 will take you a bit over budget (about $500 before rebates)

 

[ScrewySqrl]

well, crud, my edit failed. I forgot a hard drive there, the Seagate 1 TB is onsale for $49.99, so dropping the video card and swapping out the AS Rock 870 for the 880 ($59.99) leaves a $336.92 computer.


turns out my edit did go through. oh well

 

[iloqin]

here we go. $336.92, but with $25 in rebates, its only $311.92 after rebates.


LG 22x DVD burner: $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136168

Rosewill Blackbone case w. 2 120mm fans: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB Hard drive: $49.99

AS Rock 880 G Motherboard: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157199

Mushkin Essentials 4 GB RAM: $49.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146748

AMD Phenom II X3 740 3.0 GHZ BE Processor: $68.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103699
3 cores, easy overclock (3.5 GHz at the very least), possible 4th core unlock

Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Heat Sink: $29.99 w./ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Seasonic S12II 520W PSU, 80+ Bronze: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094

total: $336.92 less $25 in rebates.

Undoubtably better than the doorbuster computer from Worst Buy

Not enough left to get a real video card, but the one built in to the 880 will do everything short of hardware accelerated games, a GTS 450 or HD5770 will take you a bit over budget (about $500 before rebates)

Wow, this looks like something I should just build for my brother. Only question is that I know for games it takes a decent card. I was thinkin about a 5770 (I have one in my computer) will the MB support the speeds and the PSU support the power connection of a 5770? =D

 

[ScrewySqrl]

yes. The seasomic 520W has 40 amps on the 12v rail. It can handle a 5770 easily. even a 470 can be handled

 

[thegibson]

Holy poop. You're my hero.

Returning tomorrow to return it all.

PM me an address and I'll mail you a beer or other beverage of your choice.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

you're welcome. No beer needed. I love pricing out budget systems. Its fun!

but hurry: The hdd & CPU are deep discounts right now

 

[iloqin]

Yea, there seriously should be a thread on who can come up with the black friday computer deal of the day. Talk about an awesome computer for super cheap.

 

[iloqin]

Is there any possibility you can find a 5770 for a good price? XFX is the brand I have.

 

[thegibson]

Sqrl: If you could add another $100 where would you put it? I had no idea it would be this cheap.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

I'd get a real video card. GTS 450 from PNY is $119.99 with a $20 rebate. Would make what I quoted above just to $455.91.

The 450 will run most games fine at 1280x1024 or 1440x900

 

[thegibson]

I'd get a real video card. GTS 450 from PNY is $119.99 with a $20 rebate. Would make what I quoted above just to $455.91.

The 450 will run most games fine at 1280x1024 or 1440x900

I have pretty severe RSS in my hands (from 10 years of hard core playing) and can't play games at all, so I'm hesitant to spring for a card.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

I can understand that. Even without doing games, if you do photo manipulation or video editing, a card can speed that up. If you are just doing the internet, basic office tasks, and the like, you don;t need a card.

Instead you might consider a small SSD as a boot/applications drive. It will speed everything up:
Mushkin Callisto 40 GB drive $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226168

 

[thegibson]

Yeah, no photo or video here. Maybe just netflix in HD. Maybe a cheaper card but....

Is there a way to put a Quad in here?

You know, maybe I just need a new ergonomic keyboard...

(again, much thanks.)

 

[ScrewySqrl]

yeah. for about the price of the HSF and 740, you could put in an Athlon II X4 640. ($99.99). no effective price change there.

$144 gets you the 955 quad

at $199 (+100 on the basic build), you could put in the 6-core 1055t.

a decent ergonomic keyboard and the 955 would make up the extra $100

 

[thegibson]

Yipes! Tower is out of stock! Anyone have another suggestion? The motherboard says it's a MicroATX so could I look at a smaller tower or do I need a mid-size?

 

[ScrewySqrl]

micro atx will go in any size tower, there were two other rosewill $29.99 towers, with a single 120mm fan, they'll do the trick just fine

 

[thegibson]

What does that 120mm fan mean? Larger single fan means quieter operation? (I'm ordering right now)

 

[thegibson]

One of the other Rosewills was out and the other was ugly. How about this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144

?

Reviews say it's really loud. I have a large tower now and would like something quieter. Maybe I'll up the price by $10 or $20.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

ok, here's every case at Newegg between $25.99 and $49.99:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%204025%20600029808&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100

cases are a very aesthetic choice. I'd go with one that has at least one 120mm fan.

 

[thegibson]

New frontrunner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119204

 

[ScrewySqrl]

yes, thats a great case.

the 120mm fans move more air than an 80mm one, keeping the case cooler

 

[thegibson]

Also thinking about splurging and getting 8GB RAM.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095

Is this even necessary or is it overkill?