How much better is the new 6000 series?

[ggsxt]

I need to know if I should buy a GTX 480 or wait until the 18th and get a new 6000 series.

 

[jryan388]

Well the chart on the news article here looks pretty messed up, so unless we get some reliable data, there's no way to know until the 18th

 

[jaguarskx]

Wait for reviews and benchmarks.

I'm not expecting much improvement over the HD 5xxx series. 10% - 15% improvement perhaps? But that's just my guess.

 

[EXT64]

Hard to say at this point. All I really can guess is that the new cards will be a decent improvement over the 5xxx cards, otherwise why waste the money to switch over production? And who knows, perhaps NVidia will have some new cards out around then too. So if you can wait a couple weeks, I'd recommend it, even if all it does is reduce prices a little.

 

[jyjjy]

I'm not expecting much improvement over the HD 5xxx series. 10% - 15% improvement perhaps? But that's just my guess.

A really bad guess. They wouldn't bother with a new series unless the improvement is at least double that.

 

[Timop]

A really bad guess. They wouldn't bother with a new series unless the improvement is at least double that.

Unless they improved CFX performance by a huge margin and are pushing dual-GPU cards. Unlikely but possible.

The baseline would be it would be at least be on par with the 480 while having better performance/watt than the 5870 and added features.

If performance is really worse or only 15% better than the HD5000s without offering some eye-catching features (like 100%+ crossfire scaling), AMD/ATI would've rather done a respin of Evergreen, clock it higher and call it a day.

 

[simon12]

My guess is the pricing will be more important than the performance, if its good Nvidia could be in serious trouble. But a guess is exactly that only a guess.

 

[g00fysmiley]

its an odd point in the market. I'm rready for my new build, have money saved but am waiting not only to see benches on sandy bridge/ bulldozer but also see how the 6k series stacks up to the 5k series/ nvidia 400 series. on the 6k series there isn't a huge wait by the end of the month benchmarks should be everywhere provided the mid october release date turns out to be real

 

[ggsxt]

When is Sandy Bridge/ Bulldozer expected to come out?

 

[notty22]

12/2010, BD = fall of 2011. May or may not be seen earlier with some form of wood screws

 

[17seconds]

It appears the first releases of the AMD 6xxx series will be mid-range cards, so they will not be comparable to the Nvidia GTX480's. When AMD will release their high-end cards is anyone's guess.

 

[Homeboy2]

Nvidia bothered to do that when they released Gf 9000 which offered virtually no improvement over Gf 8000.

Thats Nvidia

 

[EXT64]

Didn't that (9800GTX) also include a die shrink and other cost cutting improvements? Similar to 2900XT to 3870.

 

[nforce4max]

I can care less and not all caught up in all the hype unlike some, to much fap fap fap from the fanboys again. 10-15% is a good guess maybe 20% tops.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

wait until the cards get released unless you currently have a computer that you are unable to game with. A gtx 480 will be a good card for a long time to come, but you will end up with a high power bill. The ati 6000 series look like they will be more efficient and more powerful.

 

[jyjjy]

I can care less and not all caught up in all the hype unlike some, to much fap fap fap from the fanboys again. 10-15% is a good guess maybe 20% tops.

The guy with nforce in his screen name calling others fanboys while giving a lowball estimate of ATIs next series as "tops."
Classic.

 

[rofl_my_waffle]

According to spec sheets, the higher transistor count and faster memory and clock speed puts the 6770 in the range of the 5850 or 5870. Which is almost twice the power. According to the spec sheets at least.

 

[Lrrr]

exactly 1.415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 times better I know as I am a magnet














Seriously though no one knows yet that isn't under embargo wait till they are released then check the benchmarks.

 

[Tamz_msc]

I need to know if I should buy a GTX 480 or wait until the 18th and get a new 6000 series.

Right now, we know that the 6000 series is supposed to increase tessellation performance and it'll be at par with the current Nviida fermis.For any more information, wait for release, which is just two weeks away.

 

[17seconds]

The release is just two weeks away, but mass availability won't be until November.

 

[dalta centauri]

Well the 6870 beats the 5850 in performance...at least that's what the charts say :derp:
I would wait for actual benchmarks for when it releases.

 

[17seconds]

Here is the question I have. Why are they debuting the 6000 series with only their mid-range cards? Based on the chart that shows the 6870 is only comparable to the 5850 in performance, there must be a flagship model they plan to release later. In the past, a new graphics card series has always debuted with the fastest, most expensive flagship version, and the mid-range cards followed later.

I'm also wondering if that is the reason for the change in number/naming scheme. A lot of people think the 6870 is going to be the fastest card on the market. It isn't, but the name change is creating some hype for people who are expecting it to be the new Nvidia-killer. After hearing reports about problems with the AMD chip manufacturing process, it might make sense to sow some confusion. That also would explain the availability of mid-range cards, instead of high-end. If you add it all up, for me, it only raises more questions.

 

[g00fysmiley]

not necessarily true matto the hd5xxx series also debuted with the midrange cards (5770) . probably to sell the newer ones at a bit of a premium to early adopters then later as the months go on releas the upper and lower end cards and leveling down the new mid range cards into midrange pricing

 

[deweycd]

Just wait and not worry about you not having to wait. Whats a few weeks of waiting to know you made the right choice.

 

[17seconds]

not necessarily true matto the hd5xxx series also debuted with the midrange cards (5770) . probably to sell the newer ones at a bit of a premium to early adopters then later as the months go on releas the upper and lower end cards and leveling down the new mid range cards into midrange pricing

Any thoughts about the name change though? I mean one would naturally assume that the 6870 is the logical replacement for the 5870, as the top single GPU card. The change in naming creates a perception and 'hype', that just wouldn't be there if everyone understood we were only talking about a mid-range GTX460 competitor. October would be one big 'yawn' in terms of video card expectations if this were really apparent.