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November 27, 2010 10:38:10 AM

Hi,

I want to build a computer for my parents. They currently have an older dell model and i have already tried increasing the RAM and larger HD but system is slow and I think they would benefit from a new computer.

I have built a computer before but it was about 8yrs ago and a lot has change.

I would like to keep this build very inexpensive if possible. But the system has to do all that my parents would need.

My parents
-Do not play graphic intensive games

-They do: Use skype and MSN messenger to talk to friends and relatives in the US and overseas.
-They do: Use word, outlook, excel and power point applications.
-They do: User their computer just about every day for something be it email or just looking up information.

In the past I have used only Intel CPU's but i am open to AMD if the system will work reliably.

New egg and other online parts dealers are running sales right now and i was thinking now would be a good time to build.

I dont really have a starting build to work off of........i have reviewed a few sites looking at MB/CPU combos and cases and to be honest i am not sure what would work best for them. Can you guys provide a starting point?

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November 27, 2010 12:35:57 PM

here we go. $306.93

LG 22x DVD burner: $17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Blackbone case w. 2 120mm fans: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1 TB Hard drive: $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AS Rock 880 G Motherboard: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Essentials 4 GB RAM: $49.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Athlon II X2 250: $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seasonic 300W PSU, 80+ Bronze: $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Never skimp on the PSU.

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This is the basic computer

if needed you can add:

Keyboard Mouse Speakers combo: $12.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM edition: $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

21" 1920x1080 monitor $119.99:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 27, 2010 1:15:30 PM

X3 3.1ghz + 4GB DDR3 and 80+ Bronze PSU?

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November 27, 2010 8:47:25 PM

ok. I talked to my parents and they currently have a dell with a P4 2.8GHz, 512kb L2 Cache, 533 FSB bought it in 2003. In looking at both the builds just want to make sure that the new processors are "better" than what they currently have........i think the new ones are but just wanted to make sure.

Also, i had a question. In the 2nd build i noticed that the processor and memory were "bundled" together......i cant seem to find this bundle at newegg anywhere.

Thanks.
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November 27, 2010 8:58:52 PM

One more thing. Again, i am open to either intel or amd cpu. However, since i only have experience building with intel i just wanted to make sure there is nothing "strange or different" in working with an AMD cpu as compared to an intel cpu. AGain, i know this may sound like a strange question but given my experience level just wanted to double check.
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November 27, 2010 9:05:31 PM

both are light years better than a 2003 computer. Moore's law still applies (double every 18 months) so these PCs are between 2^3 to 2^4 faster (between 8 and 16 times faster).

No external differences between AMD and Intel
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November 27, 2010 11:58:04 PM

thanks for the info. i am going to take all the inputs thus far and come up with a build and then post it to see if there are any other suggestions.
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November 27, 2010 11:58:33 PM

oh, which one is the triple core?
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November 28, 2010 12:24:02 AM

ok, i figured out which one was the triple core.

I did have another question though. Both builds listed PSU which are below 400Watts........how did you guys determine how big of a PSU to use?
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November 28, 2010 2:11:50 AM

welchs101 said:


Also, i had a question. In the 2nd build i noticed that the processor and memory were "bundled" together......i cant seem to find this bundle at newegg anywhere.

Thanks.


Combo links

Mobo + DVDRW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Chip + RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec 380W 80+ Bronze peeps have even run 955BE + HD 4850 so for an IGP based rig more than enuff :D  You are welcomed
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November 28, 2010 9:46:39 AM

The more i look into the build from batuchka the more I like it.

However, my only concern is the power supply with the antec case is 380W. I went to one of those "wattage" calculators and 380W should be MORE than enough. But i seem to recall from my only build years ago that you always want more power than you think you will need so i looked at a few combinations of things to try and get a slightly larger power supply.........but i am not sure its a really better situation and wanted some input.


Recall that batuchka suggested this case/supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If i thought i needed a slightly larger supply i found this one on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its only $20 after rebate.

But what i dont know is this power supply as good quality as the 380W.

I could bundle the 430W supply with one of these cases:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Again, getting the 430W supply and bundling it with one of the cases above .......not sure this is better than going with the original 380W supply or if one of these other cases is even better than the case that comes witht he 380W supply.

Comments are appreciated...........i am very close to finalizing the build.

Thanks again.
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November 28, 2010 10:01:16 AM

Ultimately it depends on what rig would be for - if u think in future u may want to hit a discrete GPU and game on then i would hit an 80+ 500W PSU and also a casing with better cooling potential, etc So it's your call as per budget/plan
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November 28, 2010 11:20:56 AM

I dont think this will be used for games but i just want my parents to have a good system for several years......or at least as long as we can.

I really like the system you suggested just wondering if the increased supply would be good. I just dont know.
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November 28, 2010 6:42:23 PM

ok....i need some help on this one. I talked to my parents and its a good thing i did. They had two wishes/requests but i think they may conflict withone another.....ie...may not be able to get both without increasing price significantly.

Wish1: Want system to be quiet.
Wish2: Want front side usb ports to be at or near the top of the case.........since they have case on the floor they have trouble bending down to use the ports.

Here is the original case i was considering:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here is another case with front side usb ports at the top
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

my question is this.

Which case is better from a quiet point of view?
Which case is better in general from a construction view point?

If i go with the case that has the front side ports higher up i was thinking of using this power supply. Would this work ok?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


So close to posting build and then ordering.
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November 28, 2010 9:08:10 PM

One more question:
I double checked the DVD burner and it does not look like it supports windows 7. Actually, several of the dvd burners do not seem to support windows 7.

any ideas?
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November 28, 2010 9:47:33 PM

Basically used the build posted by batuchka but i did change the dvd burner.




Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
Antec NSK 4482B Black Computer Case
Item #:N82E16811129072
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
$99.99
$59.99
1
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #:N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99
1
LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04
Item #: N82E16827106289
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




BIOSTAR A880G+ Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813138283
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant
-$10.00 Combo
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$89.98
$64.98
1
WINTEC AMPX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
Item #: N82E16820161279
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy




AMD Athlon II X3 445 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor
Item #: N82E16819103872
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$25.00 Instant
-$12.00 Combo
$154.98
$117.98
Grand Total: $282.94


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November 29, 2010 8:32:59 AM

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November 29, 2010 1:00:32 PM

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