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$1,500 High End AMD Gaming PC

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November 28, 2010 12:26:00 AM

Hello, I've followed Tom's website for a few years now but never became part of the forum until now. I've been thinking about getting a new desktop because the laptop I have isn't enough to run some of the more graphically or computationally heavy programs I run or make (such as genetic algorithms...) but for being a laptop it's quite good. However, I'd like a new desktop for gaming and more multitasking. I have a budget of about $1,500.

Approximate Purchase Date: Between 2-4 weeks from 11/27/10
Budget Range: $1,500 max.
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, programming, Internet, watching movies
Parts Not Required: Monitor, Speakers (I already have a 32" 1080p Vizio TV I will be using as these), mouse (already have a wireless Logitech), OS
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any (preferably cheapest though =P)
Country of Origin: United States
Parts Preferences: Full tower case, modular power supply, overclockable cpu, chiclet keyboard
Overclocking: Yes (mild)
SLI or Crossfire: Crossfire (later when I get enough money)
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional Comments: prefer a quiet pc, parts reusable for future builds, future proof

Here are the parts I've chosen at the moment, any suggestions for improvements/replacements/cheaper parts/etc?

Processor: AMD Phenom II x6 1090T : 227.39
http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/cpu/1090t

Video Card: Asus EAH6870 : 257.06
http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/product.asp?PRDCOD...

GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H : 134.99
http://www.directron.com/ga890gpaud3h.html?gsear=1

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaw 8gb 2000Mhz :199.99
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

HDD: Seagate 7200.12 750GB : 59.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Case: HAF X: 189.99 (plenty of room for future builds)
http://www.amuras.com/ssproduct.asp?pf_id=1017213999

PSU: Antec 750W : 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD/DVD: Asus DRW-24B1ST 24X Internal DVD Burner : 19.99
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Verbatim Keyboard and mouse: 37.84
http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-...

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 : 79.99
http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/product.asp?PRDCOD...

I may also be getting an SSD to go with it because drive performance is the only thing lacking I think:
Corsair 80GB Force SSD: 177.99
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-cssd-f80gbp2-brkt-90-gb...
November 28, 2010 12:54:19 AM

WD HD = rip off.
get seagate 7200.12 1tb or samsung spinpoint f3 1tb. whichever is cheaper at the time.
That WD advertises sata 6.0, which you know what, means absolutely nothing for mechanical Hard Drives because they are nowhere near the 300mb/s max speeds for sata II. So basically your paying $40 extra bucks to say its sata 6.0 without any performance gain.

Six cores isn't necessary and is barely ahead in gaming: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=88&i=47.4...
get the 955 BE.

with the $ saved on the cpu and HD bump up to a 120GB SSD, Sandforce controller one and your good, get the cheapest. (Corsair Force, OCZ Agility 2, OCZ Vertex 2, Mushkin Enhanced Calisto, and that G.Skill one)

PSU: Antec TP-750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - $80 modular. Can easily run CF 6870's with allot of room to spare.

Not sure how much was saved there, but get another 6870 if it'll fit.

Mobo also seems expensive for AMD, but I'm no good with AMD mobo's so I can't suggest any.
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November 28, 2010 1:21:38 AM

I know that a mechanical drive can't saturate a sata 3 line, thanks for the alternatives. I think I'll go with a Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB, I've had a Seagate drive before and I like them. As for the hexacore, that was pointed towards multitasking and other multithreaded applications (may be few now, but won't be long I think until they're more common). I may get a 970 BE, but irdk.

Thanks a lot for the power supply recommendation, I was kinda lost on what I needed for that. How much OC headroom would it have for the GPU and CPU?

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November 28, 2010 1:32:15 AM

dual 6870's are recommended 600W. so you should be fine for any OC you can do without setting something on fire first.

970BE, shouldn't be an option. 955BE has an unlocked multi so raise it 1.5 and your at 970 stock speed. It's the beauty of an unlocked multiplier. Don't give em free money :D .

and I bought that PSU there and the seagate 7200.12 1tb on BF as well.
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November 28, 2010 1:50:13 AM


Bottom


Benchmark Showing 955 vs 970 BE
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=186

^^i believe both are stock speeds and its basically a $40 dollar difference of what you want,
just dont get any hexacore processor from AMD when the 970 performs better than them.
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November 28, 2010 2:05:43 AM

Thanks for the info on the 970, that would have been a waste then. Also, it'd be 600w for the GPU's, 125w for the processor, leaving 25w for all the peripherals and other things, as well as overclocking...I'd feel better with a 800w, I'll scope one out. As for the 955, I'm really torn between that and the hexacore....aren't their OC abilities similar?

Edit: How about this:
Antec 850w : 119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, the reason for the mobo is it'll run at x16/x16 instead of x16/x8, x16/x4, or x8/x8 for the pcie slots
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November 28, 2010 2:50:13 PM

I think they recommend 600W for a whole basic system.. I bought a 750w to run 2 gtx 470 power hogs.. 750 is more then enough..
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November 28, 2010 2:51:20 PM

8x8x vs 16x16x is like a 3% performance difference, 1 to 2 fps maybe at some points, not even noticeable in gaming.
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November 28, 2010 8:52:05 PM

Ahh, okay. I thought they meant for just the cards. That makes me feel a lot better then, and thanks for the information ab the pcie speeds, did a bit of research and there really isn't much difference. Thank you very much for all of your help, I'll edit the top post in a bit.

EDIT:
GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H : 134.99
http://www.directron.com/ga890gpaud3h.html?gsear=1

Looks like it'll support everything I will want, I actually like this one better than the first one I chose.
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November 29, 2010 1:30:40 AM

I've had that board since June. Very user friendly and future proof for updating. (SataIII and USB3 along with onboard raid sold me on it) Mine is real sweet in a Scout case, in the HAF-X it will be even better.
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