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October 6, 2010 12:46:38 PM

can any one tell me what kind of vga is the best to buy for gamings... i want nvidia product not ati.. tnx

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October 6, 2010 12:48:37 PM

GTX480.
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October 8, 2010 12:00:21 PM

GTX 460 , 470 or 480 each of them is great no need to SLI them . & why dont you want ATI product ? do u have a bad experment from them? ATI makes perfect cards recently . for example 5850 . i researched a lot about 5850 . its very great card or higher 5870 . but please tell me why you Dislike ATI CARDS ?
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October 8, 2010 12:03:44 PM

8Vidia said:
GTX 460 , 470 or 480 each of them is great no need to SLI them . & why dont you want ATI product ? do u have a bad experment from them? ATI makes perfect cards recently . for example 5850 . i researched a lot about 5850 . its very great card or higher 5870 . but please tell me why you Dislike ATI CARDS ?

Perhaps because the drivers are not all that? :whistle: 
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October 8, 2010 12:12:57 PM

so what u gonna say about videos of 5850 in youtube ? they were showing maxedout games on 5850 runing smoothly . & then Drivers ... i realy dont know whats going on . any one say diffrente thigns , if its true then no one is satisfy about ati cards , no ?
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October 8, 2010 12:14:53 PM

WIll that day comes that ATI solve the problems with DRIVERS ? & the point is that both NVIDIA & ATI has good & bad sides , should i mention all of them or you know them ?
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October 8, 2010 12:24:44 PM

8Vidia said:
WIll that day comes that ATI solve the problems with DRIVERS ? & the point is that both NVIDIA & ATI has good & bad sides , should i mention all of them or you know them ?

A quote from one of our very own THG reviews says it all really.
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AMD's driver installation either goes just as smoothly as Nvidia's or get ornery. The best-case scenario is that you plug the graphics cards into the mainboard, connect them with a CrossFire bridge, start the system, and install the driver. The worst-case scenario is that cards aren’t recognized by the drivers. If you drop back to only having one card inserted, the driver will install, but as soon as the second card is plugged in, the Catalyst Control Center (AMD's graphics driver interface) returns error messages complaining about missing files, preventing access to the CrossFire settings.


Source.

Similar issues are reported by users with only a single card.
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October 8, 2010 1:03:47 PM

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User of 5850 are i must admit Ati drivers suck big time.My next card is nvidia.I miss physx,cuda,3dvision.And generally top games run better on Nvidia card.

What happened to the "So long as ATi smoke Nvidia" attitude?
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October 8, 2010 1:06:25 PM

so you mean single ATI card has no problem with Drivers , No ? if its is like that so he can buy a single powerfull ATI card like 5850 .
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October 8, 2010 1:08:54 PM

But important thing is the performance of the games , not CUDA & physix . i think you like NVIDA thats why u dislike AT or something else . research better . arnt benchmakrs showing the right thing ?
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October 8, 2010 1:13:14 PM

Benchmarks only show a single snapshot in time not what it's like to live with a card in the long term.
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October 8, 2010 2:02:26 PM

ATI drivers are definatly hit and miss. I have tried upgrading to the newer drivers when they come out a few times and found that even though they may improve one or two things, they mess up one or two things. The best thing I found for running a 5850 and also running two 5850 is the 10.4 drivers. However other uses have found that a different driver set works best for their system. With so much customizabilty of systems there is no easy solution. Just keep trying and see what works is my motto when it comes to ATI. I never had this problem with my previous NVidia setup. Only went with ATI as Femi wasn't out and wasn't looking too good. I would say that overall ATI isn't bad, they fight well against NVidia. It's just that from day to day one is better then the other. ATI has the fastest single card but Femi has more options.
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October 8, 2010 2:56:55 PM

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^Who told you Ati has fastest single card.Gtx 480 smokes 5870.And 5970 is a dual gpu card so compare it with dual gtx480.

Yes the 480 does beat a 5870 but the 5970 is still a single card even though it has a dual GPU. It is therefore the fastest single card, not the fastest single GPU, that belongs to the 480 as you stated.
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October 8, 2010 3:10:38 PM

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Which honour is more important fastest single card or fastest single gpu.I would say the latter is more important than former.

Fastest single GPU is what does it for me, so I would say the latter rather than the former. If one of those GPU's on a dual GPU card is not used or fails then the card is no longer the fastest single card is it? Which is just what you said although I don't think it's what you meant to say.
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October 8, 2010 3:33:19 PM

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Exactly mousemonkey fastest single gpu is more important than a fastest single card.

Oh, that was what you were saying! :sweat:  Sorry but I've had a few lunch time beers. :ange: 
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October 8, 2010 3:36:23 PM

I still go by the fact that my statement was correct. However I will bow and admit that the importance of my statement is null. The GTX 480 is the King of the GPUs.
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October 8, 2010 3:46:39 PM

deweycd said:
I still go by the fact that my statement was correct. However I will bow and admit that the importance of my statement is null. The GTX 480 is the King of the GPUs.

I still wouldn't buy one though! :lol: 
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October 8, 2010 3:49:27 PM

This is hilarious, some guy who knows NOTHING about video cards expresses a preference for nVidia (with obviously no reason since he calls a video card a VGA card, showing ZERO knowledge) and it turns into an ATi vs. nVidia debate. Mousemonkey was right the first time, if the guy's stupid enough to actually give a damn about brand, it's his funeral not ours. Mousemonkey was correct in his assessment that the nVidia GeForce GTX 480 will give the best performance. :sol: 
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October 8, 2010 3:53:26 PM

Avro Arrow said:
This is hilarious, some guy who knows NOTHING about video cards expresses a preference for nVidia (with obviously no reason since he calls a video card a VGA card, showing ZERO knowledge) and it turns into an ATi vs. nVidia debate. Mousemonkey was right the first time, if the guy's stupid enough to actually give a damn about brand, it's his funeral not ours. Mousemonkey was correct in his assessment that the nVidia GeForce GTX 480 will give the best performance. :sol: 

T.V.M. [:mousemonkey:4]
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October 8, 2010 4:02:37 PM

T.V.M = Ta Very Much or Thank you Very Much.
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October 8, 2010 4:02:40 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Fastest single GPU is what does it for me, so I would say the latter rather than the former. If one of those GPU's on a dual GPU card is not used or fails then the card is no longer the fastest single card is it? Which is just what you said although I don't think it's what you meant to say.

I'll play devil's advocate and say that I agree, but if one of the GPUs on a Radeon HD 5970 fails, it will be faster than a similarly-afflicted GTX 480 since one GPU failing on a one-GPU card results in performance that would be exceeded by an old ATi EGA Wonder. :sol: 
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October 8, 2010 4:06:50 PM

Avro Arrow said:
I'll play devil's advocate and say that I agree, but if one of the GPUs on a Radeon HD 5970 fails, it will be faster than a similarly-afflicted GTX 480 since one GPU failing on a one-GPU card results in performance that would be exceeded by an old ATi EGA Wonder. :sol: 

True, but it would be a lot easier to diagnose.
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October 8, 2010 4:27:38 PM

I don't like it that ATI decided to stop supporting linux. I have only owned two ATI cards in my lifetime a 9700 PRO and my current HD 4850, and I have had to RMA both cards, but only after a couple of years of use each.

I only use a one card setup and I really like ATI, but my next card will be a gtx460 because of how well it runs games at 1600x1080 and it is affordable (around $200)

I really try to be a fanboy, but value for my dollar always comes first.

next card --- NVidia (well, unless the ATI prices come down)
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October 8, 2010 5:16:42 PM

Is it ATI's design or could it be the supplier (MSI, ASUS, etc.)? Sometimes people blame the designer rather then the designer for a fulty card. I have had experience with a few suppliers providing bad cards when the design was sound and had no problems.
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October 8, 2010 9:56:34 PM

have you seen with your own eyes that ATI cards work bad on systems ? because my friend had 4850 & i saw no LAG when he was playing Crysis maxed out . somehow ATI cards kill all lags . Nvidia can run games very great , but some lags never leave therire place in games on NVIDIA cards . dont know but ATI has something special . NVIDIA makes more noise . it overheats & is too expensive & only latest Nvidia cards have DX 11 . but i wondered why theire bandwideth are that high than natrual cards . but any way they havnt solve the laging problems .
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October 9, 2010 12:33:09 PM

8400gs is good, the cheapest nvidia card under 50 bucks. good with 258.96 excellent with 260.63 beta. delivers 125fps consistantly with display driver 260.63
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October 9, 2010 12:37:36 PM

prolim123 said:
8400gs is good, the cheapest nvidia card under 50 bucks. good with 258.96 excellent with 260.63 beta. delivers 125fps consistantly with display driver 260.63

I've had an 8400GS and so I know it will not perform anywhere like that high, stop with the FUD.
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October 10, 2010 12:17:24 AM

I forgot to add this up there: My ati 4850 might be running a bit hot, which may have contributed it to being rma'd after 2 years of heavy gaming. It runs at 87c max and 45c idle according to HW monitor. I have the MSI hd 4850 that has the badass cooler put on it from the factory.

Maybe time for a better cooling case.... anyways, wanted to clear that up a bit before OCD gets me out of bed tonight to set things straight.
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October 10, 2010 7:06:09 AM

its so simple.... GTX480 or 2 GTX460 SLI mode
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October 14, 2010 9:46:30 AM

it is possible just rare. what is your manufacture? what is your video card ram, what is a ram for pc
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October 17, 2010 2:57:57 PM


im a fan of nvidia products.. i don't really like ati.. i dont know why.. ahm i think i had a lot of experience using nvidia products... although im not smart like you.. ha ha ha.. but anyway thank you very much for the info...
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October 17, 2010 7:18:51 PM

I was Nvidia FAN like u but why dont u want try something else , i heard ATI cards perform better ingames , but anyway its ur call if u want NVIDIA then go for it , but i would try something else if i were u , i had nvidia cards but now i wanna try ATI 5850 , u know 4850 is low card i mean its not high end but i saw with my eyes that my friend was playing CRYSIS warhead maxedout with no lag , but if he would bring NVIDIA card which has same power of ATI he couldnt play like that , i am sure . if 4850 does how 5850 cant ? CF of 4850 is not as high as 5850 , so u can clearly see how power full is 5850 , but u can try GTX 460 its great card too .
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October 18, 2010 4:54:23 AM

i will try to buy an ati.. how about hd5750 1g ddr5?
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October 18, 2010 5:01:36 AM

or gts450 fpb 1g ddr5? wich is best?
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October 18, 2010 6:04:36 PM

Dont go for 5750 its too low for gaming .
take a look

5770 < 4870 < 5830 < 4890 < GTX 465 < GTX 460 1GB < ATI 5850

i suggest u to go for 5850 for great performance & then u wont need upgrade so soon ( u will keep it for long time ) . 5770 is second great option . dont go for 4000 Series ( they are little old ) & dont go for 5830 ( its Crap ) . & if u wanna get Nvidia card then go for GTX 460 . i should say that ATI 5850 is higher than GTX 270 , 280 & 285 ( its realy great card man )

so dont for get : ATI 5850 , GTX 460 1GB or ATI 5770

What REZ are u USING ? ( its important for me , then i can give u right suggestion )
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October 18, 2010 6:14:36 PM

For gaming I wouldn't suggest going below a 5770, but a sure bet is to go with a 460.
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October 18, 2010 6:19:20 PM

No man , I mean GTX 460 is good but why he shouldnt go for 5850 which is VERY VERY VERY x1000 GREAT CARD ? if u go for 5850 u realy wont see any lag for so long time on any GAMES both current games & future games will run VERY GREAT . ATI is better in games . why dont u see for ur self ( compare them at this site )

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/161?vs=164

butaway , DEWEYCD is right dont go below 5770 if ur Game killer . & Please dont forget to say whats ur REZ .
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October 20, 2010 4:00:48 PM

For now i cant afford to buy those kind of card... but thanks for the advice...
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October 20, 2010 4:08:52 PM

thanks bro.. can i ask something? where do you live?
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October 20, 2010 5:00:38 PM

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I am yet to read a thread in which someone has complained that his fermi has burnt due to heat.



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-130-...

Tell that to who ever it was that ended up with a house fire. :pt1cable: 

Also there is one who posted on here that has a Asus GTX 4xx that had a choke coil burn out (literally)
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October 20, 2010 5:16:02 PM

kimmj2806 said:
thanks bro.. can i ask something? where do you live?


If people are willing to let you know where they live, you can find it in their profile.
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October 20, 2010 6:30:02 PM

kimmj2806 said:
thanks bro.. can i ask something? where do you live?


I am ARMENIAN & currently living in IRAN . :D  But why do u realy wanna know :sol: 
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October 20, 2010 6:34:18 PM

Dont get me wrong i am not IRANIAN , image that u was born in ( for example ) Canda but u are american in real .
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October 20, 2010 6:59:24 PM

I had a ATI 5770 it was ok, upgraded to GTx460 blows it out of the water get a GTX460 and be done with it. i have 2 now in sli and there is no need for it right now everygame is playable.
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October 20, 2010 7:36:10 PM

5770 to GTX 460 is not that big upgrade . & IMO 5850 is biger upgrade , no ?
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October 20, 2010 7:51:14 PM

i was getting maxfps 30 in BFBC2 with 5770 overclocked, Gtx460 non overclock was getting 60fps thats pretty good..
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October 20, 2010 8:02:22 PM

which one do u prefer GTX 460 or 5850 for gaming ?
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October 20, 2010 8:27:37 PM

personally i like the gtx460 with the 104 chipset
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October 20, 2010 8:35:41 PM

forget the price , just say which one si better at almost all games ?
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