1200-1400 Video Editing / Gaming build

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Approximate Purchase Date: December , before Christmas. As soon as possible , like next week.

Budget Range: 1200-1400 Euros.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video Editing > Image Editing > Gaming > Surfing the Internet > Schoolwork

Parts Not Required: Speakers , Mouse and Keyboard.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Honestly I dont know , buying from a local store probably...

Country of Origin: Portugal.

Parts Preferences: I prefer Intel , but for video editing is amd worth better ? I dont know , clarify me .

Overclocking: No ( I dont want to complicate )

SLI or Crossfire: No ( I dont want to complicate )

Monitor Resolution: Dont have a monitor and dont know which resolution is better. High resolution probably , since I'm editing video. Clarify me more.

Additional Comments: Dont care about looks. Want more than 4 Gigs of RAM. 6-8 Gigs... I have small experience in this hardware area... If it helps I will be using programs such as... Adobe Photoshop , Adobe After Effects , Adobe Illustrator , (Many other Adobe Programs) , Cinema 4D , Sony Vegas , Maya 3D probably , wanna get in to blender etc... So yeah , high rendering ? It needs to be powerful. Cuse also I'll be playing physics games like garrys mod. But also heavy games like crysis. I need help with all this.. so yeah. HD video also, if that helps. Thanks for your time :)

Peace
 

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Well, it's hard to do recommendations on specific parts without knowing what kind of stock you local store carries.

In general
CPU: Core i7-950 or i7-870. Be aware one if 1366 the other 1155 meaning triple channel RAM for former, dual channel ram for the latter. AMD x6's are good value, but with your budget you should go intel for the better performance.

RAM: 8 gig for 1156, 12 for 1366. Corsair and G Skill are the top choices here. Avoid OCZ. Try to get timings of 8-8-8-24 or lower, and 1333mhz or faste.r

GPU: You'll want an Nvidia CPU for the CUDA support. Any modern one will work, but if you also want to game, then a 1gb GTX 460 would be a good starting point.

Monitor: An IGP LCD.

mobo:GA X58-UD3r or Asus p6p55d-E for 1366. Asus P7P55D-E for 1156.

HD: Just get the size you want. Best value ATM are 1TB drives. Samsung spinpoint F4, Seagate 7200.12 and Western Digital Black series are all fine.

PSU: Something with Active PFC and is 80+ rated. Corsair, XFX have the best price/performance ratio and any of their PSU are good. Other companies vary depending upon model, though most Antec's are also fine.

Seasonic makes the best PSU's, but they're expensive (they actually manufacture the XFX and many Corsair PSU's).

Optical: Cheapest SATA dvd drive should be fine.

Case: Really a matter of personal preference. Antec 300 illusion, CM 690II, HAF 922 are all good ones under $100.
 

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Thanks for the reply and help , now I needed some stuff clarified so here it goes.

CPU: Core i7 950. So its 1336 , so its triple channel right ? Is 6 Gigs too low ? Cuse from the local store I think it dont have 12 Gigs.. :/

RAM: ^What I said up here... :/ From what I read , definatly G.Skill , but 6 Gigs or 12 Gigs ? That's the question.

GPU: Well , the GTX 460 Looks pretty good , in SLI mode :/ Alone will it really do the job ? And ive read that if the system isn't 100% compatable with it , if it isnt fully synced , it will have loads of problems . At least that's what I read , whats your opinion ? GTX or Radeon ? Cant seem to pick one... But if I get a GTX 460 , I wanna make my build ready for SLI , later on to upgrade ! Okey ? :)

Monitor: Yeah , a nice SAMSUNG Syncmaster 2333HD 5ms TFT 23 HDMI Black , it's max resolution it 1920 x 1080 , good for video editing ?

Mobo: Asus Rampage II Extreme , leaning to that one since my local store hasn't got the one you said.

HD: Yeah , SEAGATE 1.5TB SATA II 32MB 5900 RPM , good ?

PSU: Corsair. 650W Will do ?

Optical: Cheapest SATA dvd drive ? Below x24 is bad no ? (Video Editing) Maybe doing some dvd's ? I dont know...

Case: Antec 300 Illusion

Thanks again , waiting for reply !
Peace

 

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Depending upon purpose, 6 isn't enough. Running a 7 thread render in premier for example can easily use 12gb or more of RAM.

Buy 2 6gb kits to get 12 gb of RAM.

GPU wise, only Nvidia Cards have CUDA, hence you're stuck with them. Blame Adobe for only offering GPU acceleration with Nvidia hardware. SLI works fine with Intel. It's with AMD that there's issues.


Monitor any IPS one is fine. Typo earlier, IPS monitor not IGP. There's a list here. I personally use a 30" Dell at work.
http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/s-ips-lcd-list.php

HD: Need model number. In general get the 7200.12 series.



 

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Ok , 12 Gigs it is. 2 kits of 2x3 ?

Okey then , Nvidia it is. Do you recomend the GTX460 ? Or should I wait for another model release/update ? Hmm ?

Monitor, oh yeah , I am considering connecting an xbox360 to it. If that helps ? Would a regular PC monitor do ? Or does it need to be a tv/monitor ?

HD: Hmm it doesnt say in one :S
here are the 2 Seagate 1.5 TB Models. The best at local store , in for what I want.
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/25803/SEAGATE-15TB-SATA-II-32MB-5900-RPM---ST31500541AS_SEAGATEST31500541A.htm
^This one says nothing. Just serie Barracuda.
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/25479/SEAGATE-15TB-SATA-II-32MB-7200-RPM---ST31500341AS_SEAGATEST31500341A.htm
^This one says serie barracuda 7200.11

Talk tomorrow , gotta go. Waiting for reply, and thanks again. I'm out.
-Peace
 

banthracis

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That model is the green series so no. Those are low performance HD's.

IPS refers to a type of LCD. It gives the best image quality. I don't have a 360, but long as it has a HDMI port then an monitor with a HDMI input will work.

Nvidia doesn't have any plans to replace the 460 soon.

 

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Okay...So right now we have:

CPU: Core i7 950

RAM: 2 kits of 3x2 G.Skill

GPU: Nvidia GTX460 (Later , getting another one for SLI)

Monitor: Can't find a suitable one for less than 300$ IGP. High Resolution. Alot of video inputs. Send me some recomendations. :)

Mobo: Asus Rampage II Extreme

HD: A 1TB Good one , i'll choose one later.

PSU: Corsair 650W or 700W ?

Optical: ASUS DVDRW 24X LightScribe SATA Black & White - DRW-24B1LT

Case: Antec 300

How is it looking ? Now I just need a good monitor , HD , and see the budget range. To cut out some stuff , etc...
 

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Corsair 650 is fine. There is no 750 Corsair PSU.

You can get a cheaper mobo. Both of the ones I recommended are a ton cheaper.

Monitor wise there's the list I linked. Can't really help you besides that without knowing what your local store stocks.
 

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Will it be compatable ? Cuse I dont think the local store has 'em... Anyways , I can always try and get parts from different places. All I need is a good setup for a build.

Name me some good mobo's that are compatable with the stuff I said. Besides those if there are any, thanks (;
 

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CPU: Core i7 950 Bloomfield
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/30799/INTEL-Core-i7-950-306GHz--48GTs--8MB-Socket-1366-BOX_INTELCOREI7950BOX.htm

RAM: 2Kits of: G.SKILL KIT 6GB 3X2GB DDR3 1333MHz
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/29031/GSKILL-KIT-6GB-3X2GB-DDR3-1333MHz-CL9-NQ-PC10666_GSKILLKIT6GB1333NQ.htm

(Why are the 1333Mhz more expensive than the 16000Mhz ? http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/29033/GSKILL-KIT-6GB-3X2GB-DDR3-1600MHz-CL9-NQ-PC12800_GSKILLKIT6GB1600NQ.htm )

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX460 Superclocked
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/31076/EVGA-GeForce-GTX460-Superclocked-E-Exhaust-1GB-DDR5-PCI-E_EVGAGFGTX4601GBSC.htm

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD5
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/28830/GIGABYTE-GA-X58A-UD5-USB-30SATA-III-6GB_GIGABYTEGAX58AUD5.htm

HD: SEAGATE 1TB SATA II 32MB 7200 RPM - ST31000528AS
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/25007/SEAGATE-1TB-SATA-II-32MB-7200-RPM---ST31000528AS_SEAGATEST31000528A.htm

PSU: CORSAIR ATX TX650W SLI 120mm - CMPSU-650TX
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/28515/CORSAIR-ATX-TX650W-SLI-120mm---CMPSU-650TX_CORSAIRTX650WSLI12.htm

(Is it really enough? I wanna SLI later on )

Optical: ASUS DVDRW 24X LightScribe SATA Preto e Branco - DRW-24B1LT
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/27892/ASUS-DVDRW-24X-LightScribe-SATA-Preto-e-Branco---DRW-24B1LT_ASUSDRW24B1LTPRBRA.htm

Case ANTEC Three Hundred
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/27778/ANTEC-Three-Hundred-Preto_ANTECTHREEHUNDRED.htm

And what about Cooler ?

Also , I would like to get a soundcard. Xfi blaster. You know it ?
 

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Sound card isn't necessary. Very little difference from onboard audio except for pro audio work.

RAM prices are weird sometimes. Timings are same on both kits, and not too good cas 9, but get the 1600 kit.

PSU is fine to run the system, but it doesn't have enough pci-e connectors so you'll need some molex to 6 or 8 pin adapters if you get a second GPU. Alternatively you could grab a 750TX which does have enough pci-e connectors for sli.

Most GPU in the US do come with adapters, though it may vary in your country.

Cooler a CM Hyper 212+ is the standard recommendation for low price and quality performance. The Scythe mugen gives top notch performance for a little more, but it's very wide and will block RAM slots if you use RAM with heat spreaders.




 

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Okey , the 1600 it is :)

PSU: This one ?
http://www.nanochip.pt/pt-PT/p/28516/CORSAIR-ATX-TX750W-SLI-120mm---CMPSU-750TX_CORSAIRTX750WSLI12.htm

There is another one: CORSAIR ATX HX750W SLI 140mm (Modular) - CMPSU-750HX / Which is more expensive. extra 20mm ? Anyways , the other one right ? :)

Oh and one thing , If I wanted to OC later on , learning the steps and Overclocking from slow and safe ... to later on , really fast pumping machine and risky ? If I wanted to OC in the future , would I have to change the current setup ? Oc'ing was never a plan for me , but from what I've read it can be really giving :) What do you think ?

 

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System has tons of OC headroom. The 561w power figure was with a i7 overclocked to 4.0 ghz.

Overclocking isn't too hard, there's some guides in the stickies. A guide for any i7-9XX cpu applies to all of them.
 

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Yeah, I'll read read and read x) So that PSU is ok then ?

Just need a cooler... I'll be doing alot of 24/7
 

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:D Thanks alot mate , seriously. Finally really good help from this forum. I'll post a new thread with the build so I get many different opinions ;)

Thanks again , cheers