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December 2, 2010 12:59:29 PM

I am trying to build a budget rig for World of Warcraft(Cataclysm expansion)...Ideally, i'd like to run on decent settings and get atleast 30+fps in 25m raids...Would this be suitable and would there be any conflicts? i am on kind of a tight budget being so close to the holidays and all. I would like to keep the price around $800(cheaper if possible, actually cheaper would be a blessing but i also understand not to compromise price for quality) Any help/suggestions/critiques are welcomed and appreciated.
Here is what i have came up with so far...


Proc http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (not a necessity, but it's very cool imo)

...and thinking about goin with combo on Monitor/vid card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
with Crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

not sure about those Vid cards, i think id rather have Directx 11 but the price is right

*sidenote....Might not need a monitor if i can fix my 24" westinghouse L2410NM. It recently went haywire on me, started makin a "buzzing chirpy sound" for a few weeks and now it will not stay on, if i unplug it for a min or two it turns on for a split second, screen flashes then shuts off then i cant get it to turn on at all until i unplug it again for a few minutes and repeating process (been looking into fixing it but getting no clear answers on what the problem/solution is) so any help to that problem will be a huge help and greatly appreciated as well. Thanks in advance.

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December 2, 2010 1:04:06 PM

This topic has been moved from the section Video Games to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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December 2, 2010 8:23:44 PM
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December 2, 2010 11:55:45 PM

You guys should really list the actual part names in addition to links, makes things so much easier to look at!

Anyway here's an alternative build

Optical
Lite on $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case
Antec 300 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500gb $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor
Asus 21.5" 1920x1080 $160 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo
ASUS M4A79XTD EVO $99 w/ $15 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
Sapphire 5870
$252 w/ $30 MIR Use promo code EMCZNYN77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
Antec Earthpower 650w 80+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
Athlon II x3 445 $74
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $796 after shipping and rebates

Major differences are:
1. HD 5870 GPU. $220 for a 5870 is just too good to pass up right now.
2. Xfire capable Mobo
3. A 80+ rated PSU than can handle Xfire 5870.
4. Athlon II x3 CPU. For gaming though, this CPU is perfectly fine with only a small difference vs the x4 and x6's. It's actually identical performance to a x6 1055 in WOW.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62
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December 3, 2010 12:24:10 AM

^^ your selection of components is based towards lots of gaming while mine was for more balanced usage. i will suggest to get at least 700w PSU to be on the safe side in future.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
December 3, 2010 12:30:08 AM

Power is fine.

2 5870's with an OC i7 @4.0ghz at full load only use 561 watts at the plug. Even with 90% efficiency, that's 505 watts only. So it's fine.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422...

OP purpose in this Rig is to play WOW with as much FPS as possible. A gaming oriented rig achieves this goal better than a more balanced general usage one.
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December 3, 2010 12:32:53 AM

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You guys should really list the actual part names in addition to links, makes things so much easier to look at!

+500.
I actually can't do anything when its just links.. I have slow internet so it'd take me 3 hours to load all of those links, compared to if the names were there I know most of the parts lol.
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December 3, 2010 12:34:32 AM

banthracis said:
Power is fine.

2 5870's with an OC i7 @4.0ghz at full load only use 561 watts at the plug. Even with 90% efficiency, that's 505 watts only. So it's fine.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5870,2422...

OP purpose in this Rig is to play WOW with as much FPS as possible. A gaming oriented rig achieves this goal better than a more balanced general usage one.


Also why not 6870's because the scale better and outperform 5870's in CF?
Would that have been over budget?
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
December 3, 2010 1:13:16 AM

5870's are only $220 right now, 6870's $240 atm.

Also 5870 beats a 6870 by quite a bit.
Even in xfire, 5870's are better in most benchmarks. The only times the 6870's win is when we're already over 120 FPS such as Hawx.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-685...

Remember, the 6850/6870 are meant to replace the 5750 and 5770.
The upcoming 6950/6970 are meant to replace the 5850/5870.
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December 4, 2010 9:50:45 AM

Thanks guys for all the tips/and help. I'm really grateful that you all replied and gave good, honest, and thoughtful answers. I'm gonna do a bit more research myself and see what kind of tweaks and twists i can do with my budget constraints (gettin laid off right before chrismas blows...ironically it gives me more time to play wow on a subpar machine @10fps avg.) I apologize and wish i would have found your "How to ask for build advice" thread sooner banthracis....i almost certainly would have gotten more replies and saved everyone the headache of waiting on pages to load. I might revise this thread or post another with a possible new build(with sadly less room for budget as it looks right now. prolly around $500...if not it's gonna be "WTS account" lol), and i will be sure to use your template for asking build advice. Thanks everyone once again, all your help was greatly appreciated.


*edit for afterthought... I dont necessarily HAVE to build my own rig. If anyone can point me in the direction of a cheap pc that could handle WoW at medium graphics in a 25m raid @30fps for a decent price(new or used as long as it's reliable), it would be a GOD-SEND!!! Thanks again.
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December 4, 2010 3:06:51 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: A.S.A.P.


Budget Range: $400-800


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, internet


Parts Not Required: keyboard/mouse, monitor, speakers, OS


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com


Country of Origin: U.S.A.


Parts Preferences: whatever has the best history


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, 1920x1200(not a huge deal if i play at lower resolution)


Additional Comments: I just need an affordable pc for the newest expansion of WoW, lookin for 30ish fps in 25m raids...





after picking through other posts, this is my revision



Proc: AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Vid: XFX HD-577A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: i have one...but still shopping for possible replacement...wondering if solid state is the way to go or not

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total w/o monitor $503.95

Monitor: (don't know if i need one for sure until i determine if mine is fixable but here is one that i'm interested in...) ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Please review and critique this combination. Thanks in advance.


*edit for afterthought i dont think the cpu/mobo combo i selected comes with a cooling fan,...and i'm drained after hours of "Newegging"...so if anyone has any suggestions on a good cooling unit i'd love to hear it and see a link. thanks again.
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December 4, 2010 4:31:36 PM

It is possible to build a PC for ~$500 after rebates that can play wow @ 30+fps. Definitely will get a much better rig if you build it for yourself instead of buying.

The big thing is that the performance increase from a $500 PC to a $800 PC is very big. Much more % wise than even a $1000 PC vs a $2000 PC.

@dadrun, copy and paste that into your own new thread.

In general SSD's are not worth the cost in a budget build. The main benefits of SSD's are in load, response and boot times. This makes a minimal impact in games.

Sapphire also has a cheaper 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 4, 2010 4:32:33 PM

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